Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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rockondlouie wrote: 15 Dec 2025 13:32 pm
Cusecards wrote: 15 Dec 2025 13:20 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 15 Dec 2025 12:56 pm Huh?

15+ teams after Donny

6+ teams reportedly after JoJo

WillyC drawing attention, even an injured Noot

Gray already gone

Patience OR

I for one am glad C. Bloom is taking his time, sticking to his trade demands and not rushing a trade just to quiet some disgruntled fans.
Agree
I get that fans have questions and want action.
But....it is December 15th after all.
And....I get the excitement over the Winter Meetings which can be the start of trading frenzy but every year is different.
Sometimes the “Market” just takes more time to develop and again it is early.
So far I’m optimistic about what Bloom has done. But just getting started.
I really like the May signing and BTW I’m not predicting anything as to him performing.
I just like his stuff and only committing to a one year deal!
I'm a big fan of the D. May signing too cuse, we just need him to stay healthy!

The trades will come but Bloom isn't going to take just any offer, he's rightfully holding all the cards (bad pun :oops: ) and he knows it.

Patience is the key, stay cool & let other POBO/GM's get antsy to satisfy their screaming for trades fan bases.
Yes
And I’ve been chuckling over all the angst concerning the Winter Meetings.
What teams actually did much of anything?
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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Cusecards wrote: 15 Dec 2025 14:42 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 15 Dec 2025 13:24 pm
Cusecards wrote: 15 Dec 2025 13:20 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 15 Dec 2025 12:56 pm Huh?

15+ teams after Donny

6+ teams reportedly after JoJo

WillyC drawing attention, even an injured Noot

Gray already gone

Patience OR

I for one am glad C. Bloom is taking his time, sticking to his trade demands and not rushing a trade just to quiet some disgruntled fans.
Agree
I get that fans have questions and want action.
But....it is December 15th after all.
And....I get the excitement over the Winter Meetings which can be the start of trading frenzy but every year is different.
Sometimes the “Market” just takes more time to develop and again it is early.
So far I’m optimistic about what Bloom has done. But just getting started.
I really like the May signing and BTW I’m not predicting anything as to him performing.
I just like his stuff and only committing to a one year deal!
Also I saw a good video by Bernie the other day for me he’(poop) or miss sometimes he has good things to say sometimes he sounds like an idiot but he said gone are the days of just two GMs sitting in a room swinging deals they have multiple meetings with their staff about them and run projections and projections and everyone kicks around ideas and makes suggestions. That’s why he said a lot of deals take time
True
And being outside of St. Louis I rarely see Bernie’s stuff.
Bernie is on X and has his own site. So just as you log in here you can find him outside STL
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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Goldfan wrote: 15 Dec 2025 14:50 pm
Cusecards wrote: 15 Dec 2025 14:42 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 15 Dec 2025 13:24 pm
Cusecards wrote: 15 Dec 2025 13:20 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 15 Dec 2025 12:56 pm Huh?

15+ teams after Donny

6+ teams reportedly after JoJo

WillyC drawing attention, even an injured Noot

Gray already gone

Patience OR

I for one am glad C. Bloom is taking his time, sticking to his trade demands and not rushing a trade just to quiet some disgruntled fans.
Agree
I get that fans have questions and want action.
But....it is December 15th after all.
And....I get the excitement over the Winter Meetings which can be the start of trading frenzy but every year is different.
Sometimes the “Market” just takes more time to develop and again it is early.
So far I’m optimistic about what Bloom has done. But just getting started.
I really like the May signing and BTW I’m not predicting anything as to him performing.
I just like his stuff and only committing to a one year deal!
Also I saw a good video by Bernie the other day for me he’(poop) or miss sometimes he has good things to say sometimes he sounds like an idiot but he said gone are the days of just two GMs sitting in a room swinging deals they have multiple meetings with their staff about them and run projections and projections and everyone kicks around ideas and makes suggestions. That’s why he said a lot of deals take time
True
And being outside of St. Louis I rarely see Bernie’s stuff.
Bernie is on X and has his own site. So just as you log in here you can find him outside STL
Ok thanks!
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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I've got news for the well wishers.

You're not going to get any top prospects for Donavan or Contreras no matter how many threads its talked about in.

Top projects not top prospects are the likely return if a trade is made at all.

The Cardinals don't have those type of assets they are willing to deal that anyone in their right mind is willing to give a top prospect type return.

Hard times are coming.
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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11WSChamps wrote: 15 Dec 2025 16:34 pm I've got news for the well wishers.

You're not going to get any top prospects for Donavan or Contreras no matter how many threads its talked about in.

Top projects not top prospects are the likely return if a trade is made at all.

The Cardinals don't have those type of assets they are willing to deal that anyone in their right mind is willing to give a top prospect type return.

Hard times are coming.
I guess I see it differently. To me, hard times are what we've been through. We have not yet reaped the rewards, but the worm is already turning.
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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The impatience on this forum is mind boggling.

Every team has the same stated goal. Protect what you have that is good and get the best value in return without giving up vital pieces. Donovan is not a 30HR, 280. hitter therefore he is not going to bring back a teams top 5 prospect. He is right now the teams most available piece with the highest value. He is going to bring back a top 20 at best with perceived flaws in their game but possible breakout seasons and a lower end prospect. Every other player on this team that is available will bring back much less.

All these threads are brought about because of the impatience with no deals that are notable outside of Gray. Learn some patience.
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
:lol:
That's true of every team.
Don't go all Shady on us.
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Dec 2025 16:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 15 Dec 2025 16:34 pm I've got news for the well wishers.

You're not going to get any top prospects for Donavan or Contreras no matter how many threads its talked about in.

Top projects not top prospects are the likely return if a trade is made at all.

The Cardinals don't have those type of assets they are willing to deal that anyone in their right mind is willing to give a top prospect type return.

Hard times are coming.
I guess I see it differently. To me, hard times are what we've been through. We have not yet reaped the rewards, but the worm is already turning.
11WS does not really believe that. He was dictating when he picked up someone on Figueroa.
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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imetsatchelpaige wrote: 15 Dec 2025 16:47 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Dec 2025 16:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 15 Dec 2025 16:34 pm I've got news for the well wishers.

You're not going to get any top prospects for Donavan or Contreras no matter how many threads its talked about in.

Top projects not top prospects are the likely return if a trade is made at all.

The Cardinals don't have those type of assets they are willing to deal that anyone in their right mind is willing to give a top prospect type return.

Hard times are coming.
I guess I see it differently. To me, hard times are what we've been through. We have not yet reaped the rewards, but the worm is already turning.
11WS does not really believe that. He was dictating when he picked up someone on Figueroa.
What are talking about?
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
Only Arenado. Everyone else would have some level of a market if available.
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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Stlcardsblues wrote: 15 Dec 2025 18:55 pm
OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
Only Arenado. Everyone else would have some level of a market if available.
I doubt it.
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 19:01 pm
Stlcardsblues wrote: 15 Dec 2025 18:55 pm
OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
Only Arenado. Everyone else would have some level of a market if available.
I doubt it.
You seriously think no one wants Donovan Jo Jo or Contreras?
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 15 Dec 2025 19:10 pm
OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 19:01 pm
Stlcardsblues wrote: 15 Dec 2025 18:55 pm
OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
Only Arenado. Everyone else would have some level of a market if available.
I doubt it.
You seriously think no one wants Donovan Jo Jo or Contreras?
He’s become the CardsTalk Eeyore
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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ecleme22 wrote: 15 Dec 2025 19:18 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 15 Dec 2025 19:10 pm
OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 19:01 pm
Stlcardsblues wrote: 15 Dec 2025 18:55 pm
OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
Only Arenado. Everyone else would have some level of a market if available.
I doubt it.
You seriously think no one wants Donovan Jo Jo or Contreras?
He’s become the CardsTalk Eeyore
lol
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:40 am
OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
Derrick Goold, Katie Woo, and other writers from other cities may be wrong or making stuff up about interest in certain Cardinals players that we have been reading about all offseason.

Could be the case.
No! That can’t get the case that the propaganda and yes man scheme is in full force in the front office and media outlets. Not the Cardinals! Sounds like wash, rinse and repeat in 2026
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
I suspect that Bloom is placing a very high priority on moving Nado and Contreras. The rest will be much simpler, and he won’t be under so much pressure to complete deals for Romero and Donovan once those two NTCs are gone.
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