Guardians pitchers indicted for fixed single pitch gambling

[Midrange Jay]

The gambling companies are corporate sponsors and own the broadcast rights. The time for pearl clutching over gambling in the sports has long passed the point of no return.

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[An Old Friend]

I can just see the closing arguments in the trial of the pitcher. Defense lawyer tell the journey . You don't truly think that a well paid athlete would risk up to 65 years in prison to make an alleged 5 or 7 grand. That. ridiculous . They aren't that dumb to risk that .

Prosectur follo-up to journey ' in response to the defendant attorney comments, who ever said criminals were smart ?

they may have hust wanted to help their buddies without giving away their own money and they thought since it was just a prop like first pitch being a ball it wouldnt influence oztcome of game and no one wozld notice. unfortunately they or their buddy inclzded too many people on the bet and they bet way too much money on this random prop bet- additionally- because this bet of him thrlwing a ball firat pitch can be messed up by an aggressive batter that chases bad putches swinging at his putch, he had to make the pitch too (bleep) to and obvious to make sure the batter didnt swing at it.

Clase was doing it for TWO YEARS. It wasn’t a “random prop bet” that a bunch of people got in on.

[mattmitchl44]

I don't know why gambling vendors think offering prop bets on such isolated events is a good idea to begin with.

Generally, I thought, bookmakers want to set and control any "line" such that they get even money coming down on both sides such that the house wins no matter the outcome.

These single pitch prop bets and the like would seem to be really high volatility offerings that put the house at more risk even if there isn't any fixing going on.

Maybe they just set the payoff odds so poorly for the player that they skew the long term trend over many such bets in the house's favor. But if the houses are setting poor odds, seems like betters should avoid them.

[Bomber1]

One sentence defense...

"My interpreter did it."

Worked for the face of baseball, surely the same will apply to these guys.

Exactly. MLB had too much to lose by disciplining Ohtani. So the ridiculous interpreter story made it go away.

And still many people believe the “official” story.

Similarly to the many Cardinal fans who still believe Chris Correa acted alone in the HackGate scandal.

[Bomber1]

Many of us have been saying this was going to happen. Again, if organized gambling, or crime comes to your door with a big offer.... Or worse, perhaps one day organized crime comes to your door and tells you something might happen to your mom if you don't do this.. It is not a stretch.... MLB should divorce itself from organized gambling, not promote it in ads on MLBTV. Of course, that horse has left the barn....

That horse is out of the barn. These are adults who know the rules. I hope it ends their careers.

They’re facing up to 65 years in prison if convicted. Their careers are the least of their worries at this point.

That seems strong. Rehabilitation plus penalty is sufficient. Nothing hurts more than taking one’s time, then money.

I disagree strongly with this. They should be prosecuted and if found guilty should serve lengthy prison terms. Not 65 years as that’s longer than many murderers serve. But long terms nevertheless.

That’s the only way to stop this nonsense.

[ScotchMIrish]

Speaking of gambling the easiest way to rig a game is the home plate umpire and the decision by MLB to not implement a 100% electronic strike zone raised my eyebrows. Game 7 2025 a dozen bad ball/strike calls.

DeWitt is all in favor of more gambling. They run the risk of people not believing what they are watching similar to the roid era when multiple players in the same season exceeded Maris' long standing home run record.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Many of us have been saying this was going to happen. Again, if organized gambling, or crime comes to your door with a big offer.... Or worse, perhaps one day organized crime comes to your door and tells you something might happen to your mom if you don't do this.. It is not a stretch.... MLB should divorce itself from organized gambling, not promote it in ads on MLBTV. Of course, that horse has left the barn....

That horse is out of the barn. These are adults who know the rules. I hope it ends their careers.

They’re facing up to 65 years in prison if convicted. Their careers are the least of their worries at this point.

That seems strong. Rehabilitation plus penalty is sufficient. Nothing hurts more than taking one’s time, then money.

I disagree strongly with this. They should be prosecuted and if found guilty should serve lengthy prison terms. Not 65 years as that’s longer than many murderers serve. But long terms nevertheless.

That’s the only way to stop this nonsense.

That’s what I said. 65 is strong. the point of punishment is to pay then foster one’s self back into society.

As it’s written, once you’ve paid, you should have a fighting chance at least. That’s generally not the case.

[Ozziesfan41]

One sentence defense...

"My interpreter did it."

Worked for the face of baseball, surely the same will apply to these guys.

Exactly. MLB had too much to lose by disciplining Ohtani. So the ridiculous interpreter story made it go away.

And still many people believe the “official” story.

Similarly to the many Cardinal fans who still believe Chris Correa acted alone in the HackGate scandal.

lol why wouldn’t people believe the official story it’s way more believable that a guy got screwed over by someone he thought was his friend and could be trusted than the tin foil hat theory that multiple FBI investigators everyone inside the Major League Baseball investigation everyone in the dodgers organization the interpreter the bookie and everyone inside the media all conspired to cover up the ohtani story and not one investigative journalist who would love to uncover the story and make their careers skyrocket or one of the hundreds of people involved in the coverup would leak or sell the story for a ton of money? lol I like hearing good conspiracy theory but that’s far fetched even for a conspiracy theory

[rockondlouie]

These are adults who know the rules. I hope it ends their careers.

Ban them for life!

What a pair of morans, especially Chase who makes multi millions and had about $20M in contract options left on his deal.

[JuanAgosto]

One sentence defense...

"My interpreter did it."

Worked for the face of baseball, surely the same will apply to these guys.

Exactly. MLB had too much to lose by disciplining Ohtani. So the ridiculous interpreter story made it go away.

And still many people believe the “official” story.

Similarly to the many Cardinal fans who still believe Chris Correa acted alone in the HackGate scandal.

Exactly. Two stories with two scapegoats.

[renostl]

Many of us have been saying this was going to happen. Again, if organized gambling, or crime comes to your door with a big offer.... Or worse, perhaps one day organized crime comes to your door and tells you something might happen to your mom if you don't do this.. It is not a stretch.... MLB should divorce itself from organized gambling, not promote it in ads on MLBTV. Of course, that horse has left the barn....

That horse is out of the barn. These are adults who know the rules. I hope it ends their careers.

They’re facing up to 65 years in prison if convicted. Their careers are the least of their worries at this point.

That seems strong. Rehabilitation plus penalty is sufficient. Nothing hurts more than taking one’s time, then money.

I disagree strongly with this. They should be prosecuted and if found guilty should serve lengthy prison terms. Not 65 years as that’s longer than many murderers serve. But long terms nevertheless.

That’s the only way to stop this nonsense.

That’s what I said. 65 is strong. the point of punishment is to pay then foster one’s self back into society.

As it’s written, once you’ve paid, you should have a fighting chance at least. That’s generally not the case.

Those kind of terms should be for those who hurt. Even worse terms.
There's not much of a provable victim. A baseball game that may or may not
have changed. Doesn't say that they were throwing games. We still were entertained.
Nor do we know the story yet.

Out of baseball absolutely, plus something. Which in these two cases is tens of millions
but still needs a plus. 65 years is wrong.