Would Donovan be too much to give up for MacKenzie Gore?

[Shady]

Gore is listed as the top trade candidate. Donvovan is #3. Comparable salaries and control match up. Maybe there is a trade match here. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/11/ ... eason.html

Would the #2 trade candidate, Joe Ryan, be a better possibility than Gore in exchange for Donovan?

Please stop. Try to get it through your thick head: the Cardinals are rebuilding. They’re not going to flip their best realistic trade asset for another player in his (very) late 20s who will be a free agent in two years.

If I could flip Donny for 2 years of Joe Ryan, I'd do it in a NY minute.

If Ryan continues on his trajectory, you can either offer him a contract or flip him at the '27 deadline for a pretty good haul to a contending team in need of TOR starter.

Sure, because Ryan clearly is the more valuable asset of the two, which is precisely why the Twins would never make that trade straight-up. For purposes of discussion, I’m assuming the Twins (and other teams) are rational—if we’re going to speculate on scenarios in which the Cardinals fleece other teams, everything’s on the table and the conversation goes off the rails. My point was that assuming reasonably rational pricing/behavior in the market, the Cardinals aren’t going to look for like-for-like pending FAs for Donovan given where they are in their competitive cycle.

No offense intended, but if that was genuinely what you were trying to communicate from the start, it wasn’t communicated effectively. The way you presented it made it very difficult to interpret that as your intended message.

That looneybird has one main objective first and foremost. To slam ole' Shady any way he can. He is way too concerned about what a peasant like me posts on an innocent message board.

[Absolut]

Victim mode engaged.

[Lloyd Braun]

The Rays just cut 5 pitchers, Wonder if Bloom is familiar with any of them and might be interested in signing any of them?

I feared we were becoming a mix of the Pirates and Rays. But its worse than I thought... we are becoming the Pirates and the Rays' castoffs.