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lol no kidding some posters think bloom is going to cast spells with magic wand and players that suck like walker and Gorman are suddenly become good it’s hilarious what the bloom sauce can doDicktar2023 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2025 22:42 pmApparently, yes. It may look like (bleep) and smell like (bleep), but if Saint Bloom blesses it, it's pumpkin pie.
"Some posters" includes Bernie Mikolaz, Randy Karraker, Goold etc.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2025 22:50 pmlol no kidding some posters think bloom is going to cast spells with magic wand and players that suck like walker and Gorman are suddenly become good it’s hilarious what the bloom sauce can doDicktar2023 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2025 22:42 pmApparently, yes. It may look like (bleep) and smell like (bleep), but if Saint Bloom blesses it, it's pumpkin pie.
While I think win-loss record may have some consideration (a little), in general I concur with this. It’s a business.Melville wrote: ↑01 Nov 2025 09:18 am DeWitt told Super Slo Mo exactly how many dollars he would be willing to eat in order to move N/A.
And when he refused to go one penny higher as other team began to contact the Cardinals, N/A remained.
The same thing is true of The Marmot.
DeWitt ordered Bloom to keep The Marmot solely because he is under contract for 2026.
And DeWitt knows how much of that he is willing to eat if the team underperforms early yet again.
That, and ballpark revenue trends, will determine if and when The Marmot is fired.
The won-loss record will be of zero consideration.
If they have any thought that Oli might be the manager in the years to come, they’re not going to fire him in the middle of a rebuild year, unless he loses the team. And not sure you want to bring in a brand new manager and saddle them with a team that’s not going to be good in his first year. When they lose fans are going to want him gone too.
Unless Oli does something to embarrass the organization or there is a full mutiny by the players, I think he's safe.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Nov 2025 14:54 pmIf they have any thought that Oli might be the manager in the years to come, they’re not going to fire him in the middle of a rebuild year, unless he loses the team. And not sure you want to bring in a brand new manager and saddle them with a team that’s not going to be good in his first year. When they lose fans are going to want him gone too.
But I always bring it back to this. If DeWitt is a cheap owner who let the minors go to [shirt] and keeps an inept POBO who makes all the wrong moves and hires terrible staff, how are you going to put so much effort into getting rid of Oli? He can only work with what he’s got, right?
Same here.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑01 Nov 2025 15:15 pmUnless Oli does something to embarrass the organization or there is a full mutiny by the players, I think he's safe.
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Nov 2025 14:54 pmIf they have any thought that Oli might be the manager in the years to come, they’re not going to fire him in the middle of a rebuild year, unless he loses the team. And not sure you want to bring in a brand new manager and saddle them with a team that’s not going to be good in his first year. When they lose fans are going to want him gone too.
But I always bring it back to this. If DeWitt is a cheap owner who let the minors go to [shirt] and keeps an inept POBO who makes all the wrong moves and hires terrible staff, how are you going to put so much effort into getting rid of Oli? He can only work with what he’s got, right?
I totally disagree. If the priority is changing the direction of this team, Marmol and the rest of the Mo coaching regime should go asap. Why not bring a new coach in during a rebuild year, when there is less pressure to win now? He can start setting the new tone immediately.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Nov 2025 14:54 pmIf they have any thought that Oli might be the manager in the years to come, they’re not going to fire him in the middle of a rebuild year, unless he loses the team. And not sure you want to bring in a brand new manager and saddle them with a team that’s not going to be good in his first year. When they lose fans are going to want him gone too.
But I always bring it back to this. If DeWitt is a cheap owner who let the minors go to [shirt] and keeps an inept POBO who makes all the wrong moves and hires terrible staff, how are you going to put so much effort into getting rid of Oli? He can only work with what he’s got, right?
I think some of the frustration was 2025 was branded "re-set", "runway", and everything but "rebuild ". And little came out of it than the trading of 3 relievers.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑01 Nov 2025 15:53 pmSame here.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑01 Nov 2025 15:15 pmUnless Oli does something to embarrass the organization or there is a full mutiny by the players, I think he's safe.
My point earlier is that if someone is going to constantly worry about performance next year, I think they need to understand what a rebuild year is. Performance matters, obviously, because they ended to make some choices for the future, but if they expect them to fire Oli because they are out of the playoffs by the trade deadline, they are missing the point.
Now that doesn’t mean that fans should be happy with 5 years of rebuilding and DeWitt permanently lowering payroll, but that’s not what next year is. I do get the skepticism that it’s an excuse just to go cheap in the future, but again, that’s a different argument. And I do think that you can expect the rebuild not to last long. I think that 2027 might be the year to start worrying about records and spending money. Maybe 2028 is more likely, but I think we’ll have a better idea next year how long this rebuild is going to be. If some of the younger players look promising next year, then I do want to see them going for it in 2027 and the spending excuses go out the window.
45s wrote: ↑31 Oct 2025 10:11 amThe club does not have a bad manager problem..ramfandan wrote: ↑31 Oct 2025 10:04 amSept. 28th , the day after the final game in Milwaukee. One thing is that Oli would not be 'fired' . His contract will have expired and the story would be Marmol not being renewed by Cardinals
A few vet managers have taken roles as an advisor for the team but the thought occurred to me that with Marmol's Hispanic heritage . Both parents from Dominican Republic ..Oli fluent in Spanish that he could be a huge asset on the international scene for the Cardinals. Moises Rodriguez is on a one-year contract as head of International scouting for this year. Wonder if Bloom would want Oli in a similar role for 2026 and beyond (that is if Oli does not think he would get another manager's job ) .
This is laughable!
The have a bad roster problem
Expectations are very low and who could replace marmol during the season?
Disagree. And easy....literally anyone!
Another organization guy..?. Yeah, that’s a great idea..
Your thoughts about his potential role after his managerial contract expires are profound…