Ellis claimed by Sabres

[Inglewood Jack]

My take on the Sabres is that they have little/no faith in Georgiev and are hoping something sticks.

[Harry S Deals]

Sabres currently have 4 goalies on one ways

UPL ( IR )
Georgiev
Levi
Lyon

Weird claim by them something is up

This tells me there’s a good chance Ellis will find himself on waivers again once UPL is healthy and we can simply claim him back and then send him to Springfield.

No guarantee that happens but that sort of thing happens pretty often. Let’s hope we can get him back relatively soon.

Its weird so they are going to carry 4 goalies for 30 days (not counting UPL who is stashed on IR) why would they claim Ellis only to waive later when they have 1 way depth at the position. Why didn't they waive Lyon or Georgiev couple days ago. They gotta move one of those guys out AND carry Ellis on the roster for a bit here only to waive him later, Weird one what am I missing.

Many here are misunderstanding the 30 day rule. The Sabres don’t have to keep him on their roster for 30 days. They could put him back on waivers tomorrow if they wanted.

The 30 days has to do with recalls. If a player that cleared waivers is recalled, that team can then send him back down without him having to pass through waivers as long as he hasn’t been on the NHL roster for 30 days or 10 games (whichever comes first). Since Ellis didn’t pass through waivers, this doesn’t even apply to him.

Also, they’re not going to carry 4. Georgiev sucks and they’ll just waive him I bet. And UPL will go on IR, opening a roster spot. They’ll just have to send a waiver exempt guy or two down today to have a compliant 23-man roster before Georgiev clears waivers and UPL can be placed on IR.

Sorry for the dumb question, but if the Sabres send Ellis down when UPL moves off IR, 1) do the Blues have the first choice on him and 2) if they were to claim him, he doesn't have to clear waivers to be sent to Springfield?

I believe the Sabres have Ellis contract now so theyd have to put him thru waivers again to get him to the AHL

[son_of_foolsgold]

So how does this work?

Sabres have several goalies. Luukkonen is out day-to-day, but where does Ellis go when he comes back. They also have Georgiev and Alex Lyon.

Wouldn't Ellis have to clear waivers to go to the Sabres farm team?

It sounds like they have to keep Ellis on the roster for 30 days before sending him down and he does have to pass through waivers to do that.

This is a desperate move by the Sabres but goalies are so hard to get a read on. Many of them just need the opportunity so I assume Ellis will get some games in. Maybe the Blues can claim him if Buff tries to send him down

Why would the Blues re-claim him it would just put them in the same position as before.

[STL fan in MN]

Sabres currently have 4 goalies on one ways

UPL ( IR )
Georgiev
Levi
Lyon

Weird claim by them something is up

This tells me there’s a good chance Ellis will find himself on waivers again once UPL is healthy and we can simply claim him back and then send him to Springfield.

No guarantee that happens but that sort of thing happens pretty often. Let’s hope we can get him back relatively soon.

Its weird so they are going to carry 4 goalies for 30 days (not counting UPL who is stashed on IR) why would they claim Ellis only to waive later when they have 1 way depth at the position. Why didn't they waive Lyon or Georgiev couple days ago. They gotta move one of those guys out AND carry Ellis on the roster for a bit here only to waive him later, Weird one what am I missing.

Many here are misunderstanding the 30 day rule. The Sabres don’t have to keep him on their roster for 30 days. They could put him back on waivers tomorrow if they wanted.

The 30 days has to do with recalls. If a player that cleared waivers is recalled, that team can then send him back down without him having to pass through waivers as long as he hasn’t been on the NHL roster for 30 days or 10 games (whichever comes first). Since Ellis didn’t pass through waivers, this doesn’t even apply to him.

Also, they’re not going to carry 4. Georgiev sucks and they’ll just waive him I bet. And UPL will go on IR, opening a roster spot. They’ll just have to send a waiver exempt guy or two down today to have a compliant 23-man roster before Georgiev clears waivers and UPL can be placed on IR.

Sorry for the dumb question, but if the Sabres send Ellis down when UPL moves off IR, 1) do the Blues have the first choice on him and 2) if they were to claim him, he doesn't have to clear waivers to be sent to Springfield?

If Buffalo puts Ellis back on waivers, the Blues would have the first shot at him and be able to assign him directly to Springfield as long as they were the only team to put in a claim on him.

For example, if Buffalo puts Ellis back on waivers and both the Blues and let’s say…Philly both put in a claim for Ellis, Philly would get Ellis.* Ellis would then go to Philly’s NHL roster and the process would start all over again. If only the Blues put in a claim, then the Blues would get him and they’d have the option to either add him to the NHL roster or send him to the AHL without again having to clear waivers.

*prior to Nov 1, the priority list is simply the inverse of the 2024-25 standings. Starting on Nov 1, it goes by this year’s standings (points %, not points).

[STL fan in MN]

So how does this work?

Sabres have several goalies. Luukkonen is out day-to-day, but where does Ellis go when he comes back. They also have Georgiev and Alex Lyon.

Wouldn't Ellis have to clear waivers to go to the Sabres farm team?

It sounds like they have to keep Ellis on the roster for 30 days before sending him down and he does have to pass through waivers to do that.

This is a desperate move by the Sabres but goalies are so hard to get a read on. Many of them just need the opportunity so I assume Ellis will get some games in. Maybe the Blues can claim him if Buff tries to send him down

Why would the Blues re-claim him it would just put them in the same position as before.

It would not. If Ellis goes back on waivers I’d be absolutely shocked if the Blues didn’t put in a claim for him.

[son_of_foolsgold]

So how does this work?

Sabres have several goalies. Luukkonen is out day-to-day, but where does Ellis go when he comes back. They also have Georgiev and Alex Lyon.

Wouldn't Ellis have to clear waivers to go to the Sabres farm team?

It sounds like they have to keep Ellis on the roster for 30 days before sending him down and he does have to pass through waivers to do that.

This is a desperate move by the Sabres but goalies are so hard to get a read on. Many of them just need the opportunity so I assume Ellis will get some games in. Maybe the Blues can claim him if Buff tries to send him down

Why would the Blues re-claim him it would just put them in the same position as before.

It would not. If Ellis goes back on waivers I’d be absolutely shocked if the Blues didn’t put in a claim for him.

Yes it would...they would still have Binny and Hofer and 3-goalies on the roster....

[STL fan in MN]

So how does this work?

Sabres have several goalies. Luukkonen is out day-to-day, but where does Ellis go when he comes back. They also have Georgiev and Alex Lyon.

Wouldn't Ellis have to clear waivers to go to the Sabres farm team?

It sounds like they have to keep Ellis on the roster for 30 days before sending him down and he does have to pass through waivers to do that.

This is a desperate move by the Sabres but goalies are so hard to get a read on. Many of them just need the opportunity so I assume Ellis will get some games in. Maybe the Blues can claim him if Buff tries to send him down

Why would the Blues re-claim him it would just put them in the same position as before.

It would not. If Ellis goes back on waivers I’d be absolutely shocked if the Blues didn’t put in a claim for him.

Yes it would...they would still have Binny and Hofer and 3-goalies on the roster....

They’d just assign him to the AHL dude… As the original team, they’re the only team that’d be able to do that.

[son_of_foolsgold]

So how does this work?

Sabres have several goalies. Luukkonen is out day-to-day, but where does Ellis go when he comes back. They also have Georgiev and Alex Lyon.

Wouldn't Ellis have to clear waivers to go to the Sabres farm team?

It sounds like they have to keep Ellis on the roster for 30 days before sending him down and he does have to pass through waivers to do that.

This is a desperate move by the Sabres but goalies are so hard to get a read on. Many of them just need the opportunity so I assume Ellis will get some games in. Maybe the Blues can claim him if Buff tries to send him down

Why would the Blues re-claim him it would just put them in the same position as before.

It would not. If Ellis goes back on waivers I’d be absolutely shocked if the Blues didn’t put in a claim for him.

Yes it would...they would still have Binny and Hofer and 3-goalies on the roster....

They’d just assign him to the AHL dude… As the original team, they’re the only team that’d be able to do that.

Wouldn't he have to go through waivers again?

[STL fan in MN]

So how does this work?

Sabres have several goalies. Luukkonen is out day-to-day, but where does Ellis go when he comes back. They also have Georgiev and Alex Lyon.

Wouldn't Ellis have to clear waivers to go to the Sabres farm team?

It sounds like they have to keep Ellis on the roster for 30 days before sending him down and he does have to pass through waivers to do that.

This is a desperate move by the Sabres but goalies are so hard to get a read on. Many of them just need the opportunity so I assume Ellis will get some games in. Maybe the Blues can claim him if Buff tries to send him down

Why would the Blues re-claim him it would just put them in the same position as before.

It would not. If Ellis goes back on waivers I’d be absolutely shocked if the Blues didn’t put in a claim for him.

Yes it would...they would still have Binny and Hofer and 3-goalies on the roster....

They’d just assign him to the AHL dude… As the original team, they’re the only team that’d be able to do that.

Wouldn't he have to go through waivers again?

No, he wouldn’t. Just read my longer explanation up above please.

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

Sabres currently have 4 goalies on one ways

UPL ( IR )
Georgiev
Levi
Lyon

Weird claim by them something is up

This tells me there’s a good chance Ellis will find himself on waivers again once UPL is healthy and we can simply claim him back and then send him to Springfield.

No guarantee that happens but that sort of thing happens pretty often. Let’s hope we can get him back relatively soon.

Its weird so they are going to carry 4 goalies for 30 days (not counting UPL who is stashed on IR) why would they claim Ellis only to waive later when they have 1 way depth at the position. Why didn't they waive Lyon or Georgiev couple days ago. They gotta move one of those guys out AND carry Ellis on the roster for a bit here only to waive him later, Weird one what am I missing.

Many here are misunderstanding the 30 day rule. The Sabres don’t have to keep him on their roster for 30 days. They could put him back on waivers tomorrow if they wanted.

The 30 days has to do with recalls. If a player that cleared waivers is recalled, that team can then send him back down without him having to pass through waivers as long as he hasn’t been on the NHL roster for 30 days or 10 games (whichever comes first). Since Ellis didn’t pass through waivers, this doesn’t even apply to him.

Also, they’re not going to carry 4. Georgiev sucks and they’ll just waive him I bet. And UPL will go on IR, opening a roster spot. They’ll just have to send a waiver exempt guy or two down today to have a compliant 23-man roster before Georgiev clears waivers and UPL can be placed on IR.

Sorry for the dumb question, but if the Sabres send Ellis down when UPL moves off IR, 1) do the Blues have the first choice on him and 2) if they were to claim him, he doesn't have to clear waivers to be sent to Springfield?

If Buffalo puts Ellis back on waivers, the Blues would have the first shot at him and be able to assign him directly to Springfield as long as they were the only team to put in a claim on him.

For example, if Buffalo puts Ellis back on waivers and both the Blues and let’s say…Philly both put in a claim for Ellis, Philly would get Ellis.* Ellis would then go to Philly’s NHL roster and the process would start all over again. If only the Blues put in a claim, then the Blues would get him and they’d have the option to either add him to the NHL roster or send him to the AHL without again having to clear waivers.

*prior to Nov 1, the priority list is simply the inverse of the 2024-25 standings. Starting on Nov 1, it goes by this year’s standings (points %, not points).

Got it. Thank you.

[SRV1990]

Sucks this happened. But someone in Buffalo was watching. Good get for them.
You'd think Brass would of known this would be coming.

Too bad. But in no way were any mistakes in losing this asset managements fault. M I right guys.

Lol ok moron, are you implying Army should have traded Hofer to keep Ellis? Because that makes no sense

You're trying to make sense of anything that hockey-dumb simpleton says, which is not likely to happen if you have an IQ above 70.

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

Sorry if already mentioned but Skinner cleared waivers.

[taynos]

Sabres currently have 4 goalies on one ways

UPL ( IR )
Georgiev
Levi
Lyon

Weird claim by them something is up

This tells me there’s a good chance Ellis will find himself on waivers again once UPL is healthy and we can simply claim him back and then send him to Springfield.

No guarantee that happens but that sort of thing happens pretty often. Let’s hope we can get him back relatively soon.

Its weird so they are going to carry 4 goalies for 30 days (not counting UPL who is stashed on IR) why would they claim Ellis only to waive later when they have 1 way depth at the position. Why didn't they waive Lyon or Georgiev couple days ago. They gotta move one of those guys out AND carry Ellis on the roster for a bit here only to waive him later, Weird one what am I missing.

Many here are misunderstanding the 30 day rule. The Sabres don’t have to keep him on their roster for 30 days. They could put him back on waivers tomorrow if they wanted.

The 30 days has to do with recalls. If a player that cleared waivers is recalled, that team can then send him back down without him having to pass through waivers as long as he hasn’t been on the NHL roster for 30 days or 10 games (whichever comes first). Since Ellis didn’t pass through waivers, this doesn’t even apply to him.

Also, they’re not going to carry 4. Georgiev sucks and they’ll just waive him I bet. And UPL will go on IR, opening a roster spot. They’ll just have to send a waiver exempt guy or two down today to have a compliant 23-man roster before Georgiev clears waivers and UPL can be placed on IR.

Sorry for the dumb question, but if the Sabres send Ellis down when UPL moves off IR, 1) do the Blues have the first choice on him and 2) if they were to claim him, he doesn't have to clear waivers to be sent to Springfield?

If Buffalo puts Ellis back on waivers, the Blues would have the first shot at him and be able to assign him directly to Springfield as long as they were the only team to put in a claim on him.

For example, if Buffalo puts Ellis back on waivers and both the Blues and let’s say…Philly both put in a claim for Ellis, Philly would get Ellis.* Ellis would then go to Philly’s NHL roster and the process would start all over again. If only the Blues put in a claim, then the Blues would get him and they’d have the option to either add him to the NHL roster or send him to the AHL without again having to clear waivers.

*prior to Nov 1, the priority list is simply the inverse of the 2024-25 standings. Starting on Nov 1, it goes by this year’s standings (points %, not points).

Thanks for clarification on 30day rule makes sense. Lets assume they waive Fourgiev. Stash UPL. Now its Levi, Lyon and Ellis (They are still carrying an extra goalie to start the season...strange but ok. I don't see the point there if they have UPL coming off IR eventually and Levi who has massive upside. And they just signed Lyon to a 2yr deal this summer. Why claim Ellis just to waive him quickly in short order? Not saying that wont happen, but whats the point? They must be really high on Ellis and willing to waive Lyon (as well as Georgiev) is the only thing I can think of. Unless I am missing something and they were just super eager to claim Ellis and waive him for no reason. Make it make sense!!

[STL fan in MN]

Sabres currently have 4 goalies on one ways

UPL ( IR )
Georgiev
Levi
Lyon

Weird claim by them something is up

This tells me there’s a good chance Ellis will find himself on waivers again once UPL is healthy and we can simply claim him back and then send him to Springfield.

No guarantee that happens but that sort of thing happens pretty often. Let’s hope we can get him back relatively soon.

Its weird so they are going to carry 4 goalies for 30 days (not counting UPL who is stashed on IR) why would they claim Ellis only to waive later when they have 1 way depth at the position. Why didn't they waive Lyon or Georgiev couple days ago. They gotta move one of those guys out AND carry Ellis on the roster for a bit here only to waive him later, Weird one what am I missing.

Many here are misunderstanding the 30 day rule. The Sabres don’t have to keep him on their roster for 30 days. They could put him back on waivers tomorrow if they wanted.

The 30 days has to do with recalls. If a player that cleared waivers is recalled, that team can then send him back down without him having to pass through waivers as long as he hasn’t been on the NHL roster for 30 days or 10 games (whichever comes first). Since Ellis didn’t pass through waivers, this doesn’t even apply to him.

Also, they’re not going to carry 4. Georgiev sucks and they’ll just waive him I bet. And UPL will go on IR, opening a roster spot. They’ll just have to send a waiver exempt guy or two down today to have a compliant 23-man roster before Georgiev clears waivers and UPL can be placed on IR.

Sorry for the dumb question, but if the Sabres send Ellis down when UPL moves off IR, 1) do the Blues have the first choice on him and 2) if they were to claim him, he doesn't have to clear waivers to be sent to Springfield?

If Buffalo puts Ellis back on waivers, the Blues would have the first shot at him and be able to assign him directly to Springfield as long as they were the only team to put in a claim on him.

For example, if Buffalo puts Ellis back on waivers and both the Blues and let’s say…Philly both put in a claim for Ellis, Philly would get Ellis.* Ellis would then go to Philly’s NHL roster and the process would start all over again. If only the Blues put in a claim, then the Blues would get him and they’d have the option to either add him to the NHL roster or send him to the AHL without again having to clear waivers.

*prior to Nov 1, the priority list is simply the inverse of the 2024-25 standings. Starting on Nov 1, it goes by this year’s standings (points %, not points).

Thanks for clarification on 30day rule makes sense. Lets assume they waive Fourgiev. Stash UPL. Now its Levi, Lyon and Ellis (They are still carrying an extra goalie to start the season...strange but ok. I don't see the point there if they have UPL coming off IR eventually and Levi who has massive upside. And they just signed Lyon to a 2yr deal this summer. Why claim Ellis just to waive him quickly in short order? Not saying that wont happen, but whats the point? They must be really high on Ellis and willing to waive Lyon (as well as Georgiev) is the only thing I can think of. Unless I am missing something and they were just super eager to claim Ellis and waive him for no reason. Make it make sense!!

Levi was assigned to the minors. He’s waiver exempt.

So it’ll be Lyon and Ellis in Buffalo for now. Once UPL comes off IR…we’ll see.

[amp]

Is it bad to hope that Ellis is pedestrian in Buffalo so they just waive him when the time comes so we can snatch him back up and send him to Springfield? And then he becomes lights out in the A? Is it too much to ask?

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

Sabres currently have 4 goalies on one ways

UPL ( IR )
Georgiev
Levi
Lyon

Weird claim by them something is up

This tells me there’s a good chance Ellis will find himself on waivers again once UPL is healthy and we can simply claim him back and then send him to Springfield.

No guarantee that happens but that sort of thing happens pretty often. Let’s hope we can get him back relatively soon.

Its weird so they are going to carry 4 goalies for 30 days (not counting UPL who is stashed on IR) why would they claim Ellis only to waive later when they have 1 way depth at the position. Why didn't they waive Lyon or Georgiev couple days ago. They gotta move one of those guys out AND carry Ellis on the roster for a bit here only to waive him later, Weird one what am I missing.

Many here are misunderstanding the 30 day rule. The Sabres don’t have to keep him on their roster for 30 days. They could put him back on waivers tomorrow if they wanted.

The 30 days has to do with recalls. If a player that cleared waivers is recalled, that team can then send him back down without him having to pass through waivers as long as he hasn’t been on the NHL roster for 30 days or 10 games (whichever comes first). Since Ellis didn’t pass through waivers, this doesn’t even apply to him.

Also, they’re not going to carry 4. Georgiev sucks and they’ll just waive him I bet. And UPL will go on IR, opening a roster spot. They’ll just have to send a waiver exempt guy or two down today to have a compliant 23-man roster before Georgiev clears waivers and UPL can be placed on IR.

Sorry for the dumb question, but if the Sabres send Ellis down when UPL moves off IR, 1) do the Blues have the first choice on him and 2) if they were to claim him, he doesn't have to clear waivers to be sent to Springfield?

If Buffalo puts Ellis back on waivers, the Blues would have the first shot at him and be able to assign him directly to Springfield as long as they were the only team to put in a claim on him.

For example, if Buffalo puts Ellis back on waivers and both the Blues and let’s say…Philly both put in a claim for Ellis, Philly would get Ellis.* Ellis would then go to Philly’s NHL roster and the process would start all over again. If only the Blues put in a claim, then the Blues would get him and they’d have the option to either add him to the NHL roster or send him to the AHL without again having to clear waivers.

*prior to Nov 1, the priority list is simply the inverse of the 2024-25 standings. Starting on Nov 1, it goes by this year’s standings (points %, not points).

Thanks for clarification on 30day rule makes sense. Lets assume they waive Fourgiev. Stash UPL. Now its Levi, Lyon and Ellis (They are still carrying an extra goalie to start the season...strange but ok. I don't see the point there if they have UPL coming off IR eventually and Levi who has massive upside. And they just signed Lyon to a 2yr deal this summer. Why claim Ellis just to waive him quickly in short order? Not saying that wont happen, but whats the point? They must be really high on Ellis and willing to waive Lyon (as well as Georgiev) is the only thing I can think of. Unless I am missing something and they were just super eager to claim Ellis and waive him for no reason. Make it make sense!!

Levi was assigned to the minors. He’s waiver exempt.

So it’ll be Lyon and Ellis in Buffalo for now. Once UPL comes off IR…we’ll see.

This was a possibility and discussed here previously after the those youtubers with the muppet voices postulated that Edmonton was going to snag him. A move borne out by Buffalo's frustration with goalie performance in camp. Lyon's contract is 1.5 aav -- not a big deal if he passes waivers to the Amerks. Ellis is younger with big upside. He is going to be given the chance to outplay Lyons (which is a very distinct possibility). Ellis primed for a 1B position now. Good move by Adams. Bad for us. Do not see him going back on waivers.