Bolduc Analysis - Proven Ability

[oldbattler]

Mailloux is not only a RHD, he fits in Montgomery’s system that strongly wants the defense to be aggressive on the offensive side of the puck. Before trading for Fowler the Blues badly lacked offensive defenseman.

Colt had an amazing year offensively and he isn’t an “offensive defensemen”. If Broberg starts to free himself up then the Blues will have 3 legit offensive defenders to go along with Colt.

+1
Totally agree with you.

[Backesdraft]

What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.

Counterpoint: we are paying attention but just see it much differently than you.

Draft position doesn’t matter much past draft day. After that, what matters is performance and value. Bolduc performed “more” in that he did well in the 2/3 season under Monty. Mailloux isn’t currently as “proven” but he’s a RD and that position is simply much more valuable than a LW/RW.

Players values fluctuate. What spot they were drafted in doesn’t really matter much past draft day. In the 2021 draft, Bolduc was selected 17th and Mailloux 31st…but that hardly matters today. Values change over time. Tyler Boucher was drafted 10th overall that year. Would it have been better value to trade Bolduc for Boucher instead? No! Because Boucher hasn’t performed well at all and his value is much less now.

In the end, both STL and MTL traded from an area of surplus for a player that could help them more now. Bolduc was a good rookie RW for us last season. Snuggerud should be that for us this season and appears likely to have an even bigger impact. In the meantime, we’ve also added Mailloux, getting younger and someone that should fit much better longterm than Leddy. We’ll just have to see how the 2 of them perform over the years. But overall, I agree with dr0zombie in that this trade is very likely to be a win-win for both teams. Life isn’t a zero sum game. For every winner there doesn’t have to be a loser. I think both MTL and STL did well here, trading for an asset that fit both of their needs better.

Ask yourself this...
Which roster improved the most via this trade?
A) The one that got the other team's best, and a proven NHL talent.
B) The one that got the other team's 3rd best and an unproven NHL talent.

Army has taken a huge chance on the raffle ticket for an RHD. Maybe it will work out, but it was a huge gamble.

Yep, you nailed it. You’re so cool Brewster. Not only has this trade ruined this season, it’s clearly completely destroyed the franchise. I for one shan’t be attending one game or watching on TV. And when my family asks me why I’m going to tell them that a guy on a message board who doesn’t have a job and lives in his moms basement has convinced me that the Blues trading away a 3rd line RW who didn’t crack 20 goals last season is to be teams utter demise. Whoa unto the Blues.

You [fork]ing no good troll. Climb back under the stairs.

[a smell of green grass]

What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.

Counterpoint: we are paying attention but just see it much differently than you.

Draft position doesn’t matter much past draft day. After that, what matters is performance and value. Bolduc performed “more” in that he did well in the 2/3 season under Monty. Mailloux isn’t currently as “proven” but he’s a RD and that position is simply much more valuable than a LW/RW.

Players values fluctuate. What spot they were drafted in doesn’t really matter much past draft day. In the 2021 draft, Bolduc was selected 17th and Mailloux 31st…but that hardly matters today. Values change over time. Tyler Boucher was drafted 10th overall that year. Would it have been better value to trade Bolduc for Boucher instead? No! Because Boucher hasn’t performed well at all and his value is much less now.

In the end, both STL and MTL traded from an area of surplus for a player that could help them more now. Bolduc was a good rookie RW for us last season. Snuggerud should be that for us this season and appears likely to have an even bigger impact. In the meantime, we’ve also added Mailloux, getting younger and someone that should fit much better longterm than Leddy. We’ll just have to see how the 2 of them perform over the years. But overall, I agree with dr0zombie in that this trade is very likely to be a win-win for both teams. Life isn’t a zero sum game. For every winner there doesn’t have to be a loser. I think both MTL and STL did well here, trading for an asset that fit both of their needs better.

Ask yourself this...
Which roster improved the most via this trade?
A) The one that got the other team's best, and a proven NHL talent.
B) The one that got the other team's 3rd best and an unproven NHL talent.

Army has taken a huge chance on the raffle ticket for an RHD. Maybe it will work out, but it was a huge gamble.

Your position is a fallacy. In no way was Bolduc the Blues “best”. He wasn’t anywhere close to the Blues best winger or forwards last season. Nor was he the best winger or forward prospect. He did well for a rookie but he was pretty clearly behind Kyrou, Holloway, Buch, Neighbours and then Snuggerud pretty quickly passed him as well. Bolduc didn’t even score his first goal last season until late February. In no way was he anything close to our “best”. Even when injuries hit and he was doing better, he still never sniffed above the 3rd line.

Time will tell which Blues prospect will have the best overall career.

It will be interesting in the future when we find out if Bolduc was Montreal's first choice of our prospects.

[DawgDad]

What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.

There are so many things wrong with your trolling post but this is beyond absurd. WE ARE ALL PAYING ATTENTION. What you are doing is taking a set of circumstances, in this case the Blues excess of young wingers and wing prospects, and twisting the NORMAL expectation that the Blues will trade from an area of strength in numbers (a good situation) into something you term "an ugly, nasty trend". THE UGLY, NASTY TREND is your posts! Why? Because you do not stick to posting your honest opinions and discussion, or facts, you troll with repeated utter nonsense like this.

WE ARE ALL PAYING ATTENTION, there is NO ugly, nasty trend in the Blues camp.

[STL fan in MN]

What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.

Counterpoint: we are paying attention but just see it much differently than you.

Draft position doesn’t matter much past draft day. After that, what matters is performance and value. Bolduc performed “more” in that he did well in the 2/3 season under Monty. Mailloux isn’t currently as “proven” but he’s a RD and that position is simply much more valuable than a LW/RW.

Players values fluctuate. What spot they were drafted in doesn’t really matter much past draft day. In the 2021 draft, Bolduc was selected 17th and Mailloux 31st…but that hardly matters today. Values change over time. Tyler Boucher was drafted 10th overall that year. Would it have been better value to trade Bolduc for Boucher instead? No! Because Boucher hasn’t performed well at all and his value is much less now.

In the end, both STL and MTL traded from an area of surplus for a player that could help them more now. Bolduc was a good rookie RW for us last season. Snuggerud should be that for us this season and appears likely to have an even bigger impact. In the meantime, we’ve also added Mailloux, getting younger and someone that should fit much better longterm than Leddy. We’ll just have to see how the 2 of them perform over the years. But overall, I agree with dr0zombie in that this trade is very likely to be a win-win for both teams. Life isn’t a zero sum game. For every winner there doesn’t have to be a loser. I think both MTL and STL did well here, trading for an asset that fit both of their needs better.

Ask yourself this...
Which roster improved the most via this trade?
A) The one that got the other team's best, and a proven NHL talent.
B) The one that got the other team's 3rd best and an unproven NHL talent.

Army has taken a huge chance on the raffle ticket for an RHD. Maybe it will work out, but it was a huge gamble.

Your position is a fallacy. In no way was Bolduc the Blues “best”. He wasn’t anywhere close to the Blues best winger or forwards last season. Nor was he the best winger or forward prospect. He did well for a rookie but he was pretty clearly behind Kyrou, Holloway, Buch, Neighbours and then Snuggerud pretty quickly passed him as well. Bolduc didn’t even score his first goal last season until late February. In no way was he anything close to our “best”. Even when injuries hit and he was doing better, he still never sniffed above the 3rd line.

Time will tell which Blues prospect will have the best overall career.

It will be interesting in the future when we find out if Bolduc was Montreal's first choice of our prospects.

Yep, time will tell.

Does that mean you’ll just be a normal person, go about your days and then re-evaluate this trade in a few years then?

Or will you constantly go back to saying MTL obviously won it, the Blues traded away their “best” etc?

I expect the later. It’s what you always do. When completely refuted, you’ll just say “we’ll see” or “food for thought” but then post the same garbage again the next day.

[Pierre McGuire]

Here's my friend chatting it up about Håkan Loob.

[BalotelliMassive]

Isn't Reinbacher a RHD? He's already out for a month for Montreal.

[bud white]

This reminds me of when Calgary traded Brett Hull to St. Louis - I remember all of the people on the Flames message board that would say stuff like "he only had one good season" or "he's just a product of our coach".

That trade - which sent Rob Ramage and Rick Wamsley to Calgary - got the Flames a Stanley Cup.

Long term, the Blues won the deal. But short term, the Flames won a Cup.

[somni]

Isn't Reinbacher a RHD? He's already out for a month for Montreal.

Yep, metacarpal bone injury.
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/montr ... roken-hand

Last year was a knee injury. Hab fans are already saying he's injury prone.

[a smell of green grass]

What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.

Counterpoint: we are paying attention but just see it much differently than you.

Draft position doesn’t matter much past draft day. After that, what matters is performance and value. Bolduc performed “more” in that he did well in the 2/3 season under Monty. Mailloux isn’t currently as “proven” but he’s a RD and that position is simply much more valuable than a LW/RW.

Players values fluctuate. What spot they were drafted in doesn’t really matter much past draft day. In the 2021 draft, Bolduc was selected 17th and Mailloux 31st…but that hardly matters today. Values change over time. Tyler Boucher was drafted 10th overall that year. Would it have been better value to trade Bolduc for Boucher instead? No! Because Boucher hasn’t performed well at all and his value is much less now.

In the end, both STL and MTL traded from an area of surplus for a player that could help them more now. Bolduc was a good rookie RW for us last season. Snuggerud should be that for us this season and appears likely to have an even bigger impact. In the meantime, we’ve also added Mailloux, getting younger and someone that should fit much better longterm than Leddy. We’ll just have to see how the 2 of them perform over the years. But overall, I agree with dr0zombie in that this trade is very likely to be a win-win for both teams. Life isn’t a zero sum game. For every winner there doesn’t have to be a loser. I think both MTL and STL did well here, trading for an asset that fit both of their needs better.

Ask yourself this...
Which roster improved the most via this trade?
A) The one that got the other team's best, and a proven NHL talent.
B) The one that got the other team's 3rd best and an unproven NHL talent.

Army has taken a huge chance on the raffle ticket for an RHD. Maybe it will work out, but it was a huge gamble.

Your position is a fallacy. In no way was Bolduc the Blues “best”. He wasn’t anywhere close to the Blues best winger or forwards last season. Nor was he the best winger or forward prospect. He did well for a rookie but he was pretty clearly behind Kyrou, Holloway, Buch, Neighbours and then Snuggerud pretty quickly passed him as well. Bolduc didn’t even score his first goal last season until late February. In no way was he anything close to our “best”. Even when injuries hit and he was doing better, he still never sniffed above the 3rd line.

Time will tell which Blues prospect will have the best overall career.

It will be interesting in the future when we find out if Bolduc was Montreal's first choice of our prospects.

Yep, time will tell.

Does that mean you’ll just be a normal person, go about your days and then re-evaluate this trade in a few years then?

Or will you constantly go back to saying MTL obviously won it, the Blues traded away their “best” etc?

I expect the later. It’s what you always do. When completely refuted, you’ll just say “we’ll see” or “food for thought” but then post the same garbage again the next day.

Has anyone told the other side that Bolduc-Mailloux was a bit more of a decision than exchanging one of your 5 Baby Ruth's for one your friend's 5 Butterfingers one Halloween night?

What I want to hear is that Army is forever on the hook for this trade. If it doesn't go well, Army is to blame, not Mailloux!

If accountability is truly in the air here, then great, and I will be a model patient citizen.

[MiamiLaw]

Isn't Reinbacher a RHD? He's already out for a month for Montreal.

Yep, metacarpal bone injury.
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/montr ... roken-hand

Last year was a knee injury. Hab fans are already saying he's injury prone.

It was also widely believed that the Habs reached when they drafted him at #5, so this is not helping.

[Nublues69]

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What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.

Counterpoint: we are paying attention but just see it much differently than you.

Draft position doesn’t matter much past draft day. After that, what matters is performance and value. Bolduc performed “more” in that he did well in the 2/3 season under Monty. Mailloux isn’t currently as “proven” but he’s a RD and that position is simply much more valuable than a LW/RW.

Players values fluctuate. What spot they were drafted in doesn’t really matter much past draft day. In the 2021 draft, Bolduc was selected 17th and Mailloux 31st…but that hardly matters today. Values change over time. Tyler Boucher was drafted 10th overall that year. Would it have been better value to trade Bolduc for Boucher instead? No! Because Boucher hasn’t performed well at all and his value is much less now.

In the end, both STL and MTL traded from an area of surplus for a player that could help them more now. Bolduc was a good rookie RW for us last season. Snuggerud should be that for us this season and appears likely to have an even bigger impact. In the meantime, we’ve also added Mailloux, getting younger and someone that should fit much better longterm than Leddy. We’ll just have to see how the 2 of them perform over the years. But overall, I agree with dr0zombie in that this trade is very likely to be a win-win for both teams. Life isn’t a zero sum game. For every winner there doesn’t have to be a loser. I think both MTL and STL did well here, trading for an asset that fit both of their needs better.

Ask yourself this...
Which roster improved the most via this trade?
A) The one that got the other team's best, and a proven NHL talent.
B) The one that got the other team's 3rd best and an unproven NHL talent.

Army has taken a huge chance on the raffle ticket for an RHD. Maybe it will work out, but it was a huge gamble.

Your position is a fallacy. In no way was Bolduc the Blues “best”. He wasn’t anywhere close to the Blues best winger or forwards last season. Nor was he the best winger or forward prospect. He did well for a rookie but he was pretty clearly behind Kyrou, Holloway, Buch, Neighbours and then Snuggerud pretty quickly passed him as well. Bolduc didn’t even score his first goal last season until late February. In no way was he anything close to our “best”. Even when injuries hit and he was doing better, he still never sniffed above the 3rd line.

Time will tell which Blues prospect will have the best overall career.

It will be interesting in the future when we find out if Bolduc was Montreal's first choice of our prospects.

Yep, time will tell.

Does that mean you’ll just be a normal person, go about your days and then re-evaluate this trade in a few years then?

Or will you constantly go back to saying MTL obviously won it, the Blues traded away their “best” etc?

I expect the later. It’s what you always do. When completely refuted, you’ll just say “we’ll see” or “food for thought” but then post the same garbage again the next day.

Has anyone told the other side that Bolduc-Mailloux was a bit more of a decision than exchanging one of your 5 Baby Ruth's for one your friend's 5 Butterfingers one Halloween night?

What I want to hear is that Army is forever on the hook for this trade. If it doesn't go well, Army is to blame, not Mailloux!

If accountability is truly in the air here, then great, and I will be a model patient citizen.

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[a smell of green grass]

Isn't Reinbacher a RHD? He's already out for a month for Montreal.

Yep, metacarpal bone injury.
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/montr ... roken-hand

Last year was a knee injury. Hab fans are already saying he's injury prone.

Rather funny isn't it? I would laugh, except my GM drafted a guy in Round #1 that was known to be very injury-prone. His name was Jiricek, and he was a RHD too.

[2forDiving]

What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.

Counterpoint: we are paying attention but just see it much differently than you.

Draft position doesn’t matter much past draft day. After that, what matters is performance and value. Bolduc performed “more” in that he did well in the 2/3 season under Monty. Mailloux isn’t currently as “proven” but he’s a RD and that position is simply much more valuable than a LW/RW.

Players values fluctuate. What spot they were drafted in doesn’t really matter much past draft day. In the 2021 draft, Bolduc was selected 17th and Mailloux 31st…but that hardly matters today. Values change over time. Tyler Boucher was drafted 10th overall that year. Would it have been better value to trade Bolduc for Boucher instead? No! Because Boucher hasn’t performed well at all and his value is much less now.

In the end, both STL and MTL traded from an area of surplus for a player that could help them more now. Bolduc was a good rookie RW for us last season. Snuggerud should be that for us this season and appears likely to have an even bigger impact. In the meantime, we’ve also added Mailloux, getting younger and someone that should fit much better longterm than Leddy. We’ll just have to see how the 2 of them perform over the years. But overall, I agree with dr0zombie in that this trade is very likely to be a win-win for both teams. Life isn’t a zero sum game. For every winner there doesn’t have to be a loser. I think both MTL and STL did well here, trading for an asset that fit both of their needs better.

Ask yourself this...
Which roster improved the most via this trade?
A) The one that got the other team's best, and a proven NHL talent.
B) The one that got the other team's 3rd best and an unproven NHL talent.

Army has taken a huge chance on the raffle ticket for an RHD. Maybe it will work out, but it was a huge gamble.

It isn’t that simple. You are so myopic that you only see the two options you have invented. There is a 3rd option the Blues are better at The 3rd RD position than they were at season’s end last year. That they needed a 3rd RD than a 3rd RW. That you don’t even recognize that shows how much hockey knowledge/sense you lack.

[BalotelliMassive]

Isn't Reinbacher a RHD? He's already out for a month for Montreal.

Yep, metacarpal bone injury.
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/montr ... roken-hand

Last year was a knee injury. Hab fans are already saying he's injury prone.

It sound like RHD position isn't as stacked as they thought....lol

[STL fan in MN]

What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.

Counterpoint: we are paying attention but just see it much differently than you.

Draft position doesn’t matter much past draft day. After that, what matters is performance and value. Bolduc performed “more” in that he did well in the 2/3 season under Monty. Mailloux isn’t currently as “proven” but he’s a RD and that position is simply much more valuable than a LW/RW.

Players values fluctuate. What spot they were drafted in doesn’t really matter much past draft day. In the 2021 draft, Bolduc was selected 17th and Mailloux 31st…but that hardly matters today. Values change over time. Tyler Boucher was drafted 10th overall that year. Would it have been better value to trade Bolduc for Boucher instead? No! Because Boucher hasn’t performed well at all and his value is much less now.

In the end, both STL and MTL traded from an area of surplus for a player that could help them more now. Bolduc was a good rookie RW for us last season. Snuggerud should be that for us this season and appears likely to have an even bigger impact. In the meantime, we’ve also added Mailloux, getting younger and someone that should fit much better longterm than Leddy. We’ll just have to see how the 2 of them perform over the years. But overall, I agree with dr0zombie in that this trade is very likely to be a win-win for both teams. Life isn’t a zero sum game. For every winner there doesn’t have to be a loser. I think both MTL and STL did well here, trading for an asset that fit both of their needs better.

Ask yourself this...
Which roster improved the most via this trade?
A) The one that got the other team's best, and a proven NHL talent.
B) The one that got the other team's 3rd best and an unproven NHL talent.

Army has taken a huge chance on the raffle ticket for an RHD. Maybe it will work out, but it was a huge gamble.

Your position is a fallacy. In no way was Bolduc the Blues “best”. He wasn’t anywhere close to the Blues best winger or forwards last season. Nor was he the best winger or forward prospect. He did well for a rookie but he was pretty clearly behind Kyrou, Holloway, Buch, Neighbours and then Snuggerud pretty quickly passed him as well. Bolduc didn’t even score his first goal last season until late February. In no way was he anything close to our “best”. Even when injuries hit and he was doing better, he still never sniffed above the 3rd line.

Time will tell which Blues prospect will have the best overall career.

It will be interesting in the future when we find out if Bolduc was Montreal's first choice of our prospects.

Yep, time will tell.

Does that mean you’ll just be a normal person, go about your days and then re-evaluate this trade in a few years then?

Or will you constantly go back to saying MTL obviously won it, the Blues traded away their “best” etc?

I expect the later. It’s what you always do. When completely refuted, you’ll just say “we’ll see” or “food for thought” but then post the same garbage again the next day.

Has anyone told the other side that Bolduc-Mailloux was a bit more of a decision than exchanging one of your 5 Baby Ruth's for one your friend's 5 Butterfingers one Halloween night?

What I want to hear is that Army is forever on the hook for this trade. If it doesn't go well, Army is to blame, not Mailloux!

If accountability is truly in the air here, then great, and I will be a model patient citizen.

Why would you assume there wouldn’t ever be any accountability? You seem to tout this a lot. That Army isn’t held accountable. I’d say he is. It’s just many of us here disagree with you on what was a good move and what was a bad move for him.

I’ve been on the record numerous times that I wasn’t a big fan of a lot of his moves from around 2020-2022. But I’ll also note that he clearly had a plan but that plan was based on the assumption the cap would continue to go up. What happened instead was an unforeseen global pandemic that caused the Cap to stay stagnant for years. That really really derailed what he could do and it partially led to the Blues Cup window closing prematurely.

But he also made some bad moves and for that, many here grumbled and weren’t happy about it.

All that said, I think he’s been absolutely killing it from 2023-2025. We’re in a much better place now. But just like before, if things don’t work out well, I see no reason to assume his decisions won’t be held accountable. This is the Show Me State. Your claim that Army isn’t held accountable is another one of your fallacies IMO.