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Re: Things fans will go to see

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 16:57 pm
by Carp4Cy
Youboughtit wrote: 28 Aug 2025 15:41 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 28 Aug 2025 13:10 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:23 am 1. A legit WS team. Not WC. (Top 11 in payroll like 06-11)
2. Future HOF superstars in their prime
3. A MVP caliber player
4. A Cy young caliber SP

The Cardinals need to address the holes at the top 4 spots on the roster. 2 MOTO bas and 1-2 TOR SP. this team is stacked with 1-2 tool role players that will fit perfectly around the stars. Waiting to add them will draft out the rebuild and loose more fans. Bloom need to make everyone except Wetherholt and Doyle available along with the $100m ownership took off the books to add difference makers. Players fans want to buy jerseys of. Until then attendance will continue to drop. Am thinking 10-15k per game next season. Under 20k now and they raised prices.
I'll watch HOF level stars at any point in their career. Pujols, Wainwright, Yadi have my everlasting respect. Also Goldy and Nado. Though now we are down to 0 of those on our active roster.
Nado is on the roster. I disagree. To help this team they need to be in their prime
He's on the DL. I'm saying I'd go see them though. Yadi, Pujols, and Wainwright were still a lot of fun even past their primes.

Re: Things fans will go to see

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 17:01 pm
by Youboughtit
Carp4Cy wrote: 28 Aug 2025 16:57 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 28 Aug 2025 15:41 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 28 Aug 2025 13:10 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:23 am 1. A legit WS team. Not WC. (Top 11 in payroll like 06-11)
2. Future HOF superstars in their prime
3. A MVP caliber player
4. A Cy young caliber SP

The Cardinals need to address the holes at the top 4 spots on the roster. 2 MOTO bas and 1-2 TOR SP. this team is stacked with 1-2 tool role players that will fit perfectly around the stars. Waiting to add them will draft out the rebuild and loose more fans. Bloom need to make everyone except Wetherholt and Doyle available along with the $100m ownership took off the books to add difference makers. Players fans want to buy jerseys of. Until then attendance will continue to drop. Am thinking 10-15k per game next season. Under 20k now and they raised prices.
I'll watch HOF level stars at any point in their career. Pujols, Wainwright, Yadi have my everlasting respect. Also Goldy and Nado. Though now we are down to 0 of those on our active roster.
Nado is on the roster. I disagree. To help this team they need to be in their prime
He's on the DL. I'm saying I'd go see them though. Yadi, Pujols, and Wainwright were still a lot of fun even past their primes.
Because the already won for this franchise. No one on this team has a WS ring. Hard pass

Re: Things fans will go to see

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 17:04 pm
by The Nard
Dollar brats.

Re: Things fans will go to see

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 17:22 pm
by scoutyjones2
Youboughtit wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:23 am 1. A legit WS team. Not WC. (Top 11 in payroll like 06-11)
2. Future HOF superstars in their prime
3. A MVP caliber player
4. A Cy young caliber SP

The Cardinals need to address the holes at the top 4 spots on the roster. 2 MOTO bas and 1-2 TOR SP. this team is stacked with 1-2 tool role players that will fit perfectly around the stars. Waiting to add them will draft out the rebuild and loose more fans. Bloom need to make everyone except Wetherholt and Doyle available along with the $100m ownership took off the books to add difference makers. Players fans want to buy jerseys of. Until then attendance will continue to drop. Am thinking 10-15k per game next season. Under 20k now and they raised prices.
WNBA, Soccer, NeckCar, musicals, book signings,..

Re: Things fans will go to see

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 18:53 pm
by Youboughtit
scoutyjones2 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 17:22 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:23 am 1. A legit WS team. Not WC. (Top 11 in payroll like 06-11)
2. Future HOF superstars in their prime
3. A MVP caliber player
4. A Cy young caliber SP

The Cardinals need to address the holes at the top 4 spots on the roster. 2 MOTO bas and 1-2 TOR SP. this team is stacked with 1-2 tool role players that will fit perfectly around the stars. Waiting to add them will draft out the rebuild and loose more fans. Bloom need to make everyone except Wetherholt and Doyle available along with the $100m ownership took off the books to add difference makers. Players fans want to buy jerseys of. Until then attendance will continue to drop. Am thinking 10-15k per game next season. Under 20k now and they raised prices.
WNBA, Soccer, NeckCar, musicals, book signings,..
Used my savings to go see Stapleton and it was well worth it. He’s a superstar. When Cardinals have an equivalent I will return. A lot of people must agree.

Re: Things fans will go to see

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 20:08 pm
by scoutyjones2
Youboughtit wrote: 28 Aug 2025 18:53 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 17:22 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:23 am 1. A legit WS team. Not WC. (Top 11 in payroll like 06-11)
2. Future HOF superstars in their prime
3. A MVP caliber player
4. A Cy young caliber SP

The Cardinals need to address the holes at the top 4 spots on the roster. 2 MOTO bas and 1-2 TOR SP. this team is stacked with 1-2 tool role players that will fit perfectly around the stars. Waiting to add them will draft out the rebuild and loose more fans. Bloom need to make everyone except Wetherholt and Doyle available along with the $100m ownership took off the books to add difference makers. Players fans want to buy jerseys of. Until then attendance will continue to drop. Am thinking 10-15k per game next season. Under 20k now and they raised prices.
WNBA, Soccer, NeckCar, musicals, book signings,..
Used my savings to go see Stapleton and it was well worth it. He’s a superstar. When Cardinals have an equivalent I will return. A lot of people must agree.
Even more like Taylor Swift, Beyonce, etc...

Re: Things fans will go to see

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 20:14 pm
by Youboughtit
scoutyjones2 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 20:08 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 28 Aug 2025 18:53 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 17:22 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:23 am 1. A legit WS team. Not WC. (Top 11 in payroll like 06-11)
2. Future HOF superstars in their prime
3. A MVP caliber player
4. A Cy young caliber SP

The Cardinals need to address the holes at the top 4 spots on the roster. 2 MOTO bas and 1-2 TOR SP. this team is stacked with 1-2 tool role players that will fit perfectly around the stars. Waiting to add them will draft out the rebuild and loose more fans. Bloom need to make everyone except Wetherholt and Doyle available along with the $100m ownership took off the books to add difference makers. Players fans want to buy jerseys of. Until then attendance will continue to drop. Am thinking 10-15k per game next season. Under 20k now and they raised prices.
WNBA, Soccer, NeckCar, musicals, book signings,..
Used my savings to go see Stapleton and it was well worth it. He’s a superstar. When Cardinals have an equivalent I will return. A lot of people must agree.
Even more like Taylor Swift, Beyonce, etc...
You can be an owner minion willing to watch a AAA roster if you want. Give him the $ in advance to go get more average players. I will wait for stars before spending mine because I beleive the owner has lost his fastball and desire to win which requires a top 11 payroll like 06-11.

Re: Things fans will go to see

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 20:33 pm
by 45s
The Nard wrote: 28 Aug 2025 17:04 pm Dollar brats.
Some teams have dollar dog night every week

What do they charge for a dog at Busch?

Re: Things fans will go to see

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 21:51 pm
by Rojo Johnson
3dender wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:42 am There's two aspects to selling tickets:

1) An entertaining product
2) Fanbase can afford it

You and most of the discourse on this have focused on #1. If FO is not gonna have #1 they could easily address #2 by lowering prices, offering specials, etc.

Dozens of minor league teams around the country sell a ton of tickets without any of those 4 things you listed. It's because it's a cheap and fun way to spend an afternoon or evening.

Imagine if the Cards came out tomorrow and said, "Y'know what, we recognize we haven't provided a great product for our fans the last few years. To make up for it we're going to lower prices 30% for next year." They'd not only sell more tickets for next year, they'd create a lot of good will that might even spill over to the rest of this year.
Minor league baseball is anything but cheap. I was astounded when looking at the prices for the AA Frisco Roughriders. Ridiculous is a word that comes to mind. They lost my business within minutes.

Re: Things fans will go to see

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 23:58 pm
by JuanAgosto
Fans want to see exciting baseball. They want to see a team with personality. They want to see competitive fire.

They dont want to see players flailing away looking over-matched. They dont want boring baseball and boring personalities. Fans dont want to see a pud being outwitted every night. And they dont want arrogance from the front office and ownership.

Re: Things fans will go to see

Posted: 29 Aug 2025 06:16 am
by rccard
Winning would solve a lot of ills but with this current team winning is not an option.

Re: Things fans will go to see

Posted: 29 Aug 2025 10:43 am
by Youboughtit
rccard wrote: 29 Aug 2025 06:16 am Winning would solve a lot of ills but with this current team winning is not an option.
Winning what? A WS yes. A WC no. After this CBA half the teams will “get in”. But only a few have a chance to win. A top 11 payroll has won all but 3 WS in the last 25 years. I use 11 because the Cardinals in 06-11 were 11th and the Royals were 13th. That would require a $205m payroll. Just getting in will not work anymore