Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?
Posted: 22 Aug 2025 15:51 pm
He does. Don’t know what to tell you.
There are his teammates and GMs that continue to sign him.
And then there’s you and shakey…
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He does. Don’t know what to tell you.
Even Mo brought him back a second time so no way would Mo have brought him back again if he was a cancer and problem in the clubhouseecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 15:51 pmHe does. Don’t know what to tell you.
There are his teammates and GMs that continue to sign him.
And then there’s you and shakey…
Dude, scroll the comments on the video I linked and tell me what you see.ecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 15:51 pmHe does. Don’t know what to tell you.
There are his teammates and GMs that continue to sign him.
And then there’s you and shakey…
Good pointOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 17:41 pmEven Mo brought him back a second time so no way would Mo have brought him back again if he was a cancer and problem in the clubhouseecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 15:51 pmHe does. Don’t know what to tell you.
There are his teammates and GMs that continue to sign him.
And then there’s you and shakey…
Just stop the post right there. Open ended question: how would you overcome that type of upbringing? You can try to answer the question at face value. You look around a field at kids who came from these richy rich select ball leagues. Their parents drove them around in fancy travelalls with iPads fixed to the dash, and made rude entitled demands to the hotel employees wherever they stay (you know the types). Remember when pham said in a post-game interview he didn't have anyone to play catch with growing up.An Old Friend wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 13:27 pm
His mom was 17 when he was born and didn't finish high school
His dad was 19 and incarcerated when he was born
Pham's stepfather stabbed him during a fight
Angry? No. Short fuse? Sure. Chip on his shoulder? Yep.
ecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 12:34 pm'Dispose' is an inaccurate word. The Cards didn't 'dispose of' Mark DeRosa, nor Quintana.Banner29 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 12:29 pmecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 12:21 pmKimbrel has been with 9 teams in 11 years. Is he a cancer?An Old Friend wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Ummm... he's ALWAYS been this guy. Totally unhinged and an asssshole... product of his upbringing.
Talented enough to have a long career.
Too big of a jackwagon for anyone to keep him around for any time whatsoever - he's a cancer.
10 teams in 12 seasons
Chris Stratton has been with 7 teams in 8 years. Cancer?
Like the ones above, Tommy's career of late has been 1 year deals, then traded to teams in the playoff hunt who want him.
For cancers, see Puig. He hasn't been in the league in 6 years.
Organizations keep signing Pham. And no, it's not because they know less about his personality than you...
1 year deals and playoff contending teams that use him for a quick playoff push then dispose of him
In other words teams that use him to strengthen their farm sent to teams that don’t appear to want to keep him around for very long.
I can agree he’s not on a Yasiel Puig level of cancer, but clearly his reputation hasn’t outweighed his rather high talent level. Hence why he’s never found a “forever home”
Cards never entertained resigning Q.Banner29 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 20:21 pmecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 12:34 pm'Dispose' is an inaccurate word. The Cards didn't 'dispose of' Mark DeRosa, nor Quintana.Banner29 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 12:29 pmecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 12:21 pmKimbrel has been with 9 teams in 11 years. Is he a cancer?An Old Friend wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Ummm... he's ALWAYS been this guy. Totally unhinged and an asssshole... product of his upbringing.
Talented enough to have a long career.
Too big of a jackwagon for anyone to keep him around for any time whatsoever - he's a cancer.
10 teams in 12 seasons
Chris Stratton has been with 7 teams in 8 years. Cancer?
Like the ones above, Tommy's career of late has been 1 year deals, then traded to teams in the playoff hunt who want him.
For cancers, see Puig. He hasn't been in the league in 6 years.
Organizations keep signing Pham. And no, it's not because they know less about his personality than you...
1 year deals and playoff contending teams that use him for a quick playoff push then dispose of him
In other words teams that use him to strengthen their farm sent to teams that don’t appear to want to keep him around for very long.
I can agree he’s not on a Yasiel Puig level of cancer, but clearly his reputation hasn’t outweighed his rather high talent level. Hence why he’s never found a “forever home”
Not exactly sure where you’re going with this. Derosa was not good for the Cardinals and wasn’t good the rest of his career and I remember a lot of us wanting Quintana back. And the Cardinals at the very least expressed interest in it.
These two don’t really compare
Once or maybe even twice sure. But 10 different teams? Not one of them said to themselves “hey we gotta lock this guy up” especially with his skill set. He either signs in the offseason with some scrub team that knows they can use him for prospects or gets traded to contenders that appear to strategically grab him when it’s about time to lock in to playoff baseball. Perhaps to deal with him as little as humanly possible until it’s beneficial. Otherwise why not just sign him in the offseason and have him all year? And why can’t he find himself into a long term deal? I reiterate, with his skill set it shouldn’t be an issue.ecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 20:25 pmCards never entertained resigning Q.Banner29 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 20:21 pmecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 12:34 pm'Dispose' is an inaccurate word. The Cards didn't 'dispose of' Mark DeRosa, nor Quintana.Banner29 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 12:29 pmecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 12:21 pmKimbrel has been with 9 teams in 11 years. Is he a cancer?An Old Friend wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Ummm... he's ALWAYS been this guy. Totally unhinged and an asssshole... product of his upbringing.
Talented enough to have a long career.
Too big of a jackwagon for anyone to keep him around for any time whatsoever - he's a cancer.
10 teams in 12 seasons
Chris Stratton has been with 7 teams in 8 years. Cancer?
Like the ones above, Tommy's career of late has been 1 year deals, then traded to teams in the playoff hunt who want him.
For cancers, see Puig. He hasn't been in the league in 6 years.
Organizations keep signing Pham. And no, it's not because they know less about his personality than you...
1 year deals and playoff contending teams that use him for a quick playoff push then dispose of him
In other words teams that use him to strengthen their farm sent to teams that don’t appear to want to keep him around for very long.
I can agree he’s not on a Yasiel Puig level of cancer, but clearly his reputation hasn’t outweighed his rather high talent level. Hence why he’s never found a “forever home”
Not exactly sure where you’re going with this. Derosa was not good for the Cardinals and wasn’t good the rest of his career and I remember a lot of us wanting Quintana back. And the Cardinals at the very least expressed interest in it.
These two don’t really compare
Pham being brought in as a rental and then not resigned by the team renting him is very common.
You are effing nuts if you think he’s not an angry man.ecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 20:01 pmAngry? No. Short fuse? Sure. Chip on his shoulder? Yep.
Bad teammate? No. Bad teammates aren't traded to contending teams and signed annually to MLB contracts.
Can't remember the rules, but if the Pirates release TP before 9/1, I think he can get picked up by a contender. That would definitely happen if the Pirates do that. Pham has like a .900 OPS the last 3 months.
Hinske of the Mets said the player out of verander Pham and Scherzer they would miss the most it was Pham hinske said ask lindor Rosenthal asked lindor he confirmed it. Rosenthal then did a whole article where he talked to previous teammates coaches and managers and they loved him. He signs with teams that are out of contention for playing time he’s usually then traded to contending teams because they know the kind of player he is. Fans can disagree with his teammates his coaches and managers all they want to but me personally I will believe his teammates his coaches and managers over fans on what kind of teammate he isBanner29 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 21:01 pmOnce or maybe even twice sure. But 10 different teams? Not one of them said to themselves “hey we gotta lock this guy up” especially with his skill set. He either signs in the offseason with some scrub team that knows they can use him for prospects or gets traded to contenders that appear to strategically grab him when it’s about time to lock in to playoff baseball. Perhaps to deal with him as little as humanly possible until it’s beneficial. Otherwise why not just sign him in the offseason and have him all year? And why can’t he find himself into a long term deal? I reiterate, with his skill set it shouldn’t be an issue.ecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 20:25 pmCards never entertained resigning Q.Banner29 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 20:21 pmecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 12:34 pm'Dispose' is an inaccurate word. The Cards didn't 'dispose of' Mark DeRosa, nor Quintana.Banner29 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 12:29 pmecleme22 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 12:21 pmKimbrel has been with 9 teams in 11 years. Is he a cancer?An Old Friend wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Ummm... he's ALWAYS been this guy. Totally unhinged and an asssshole... product of his upbringing.
Talented enough to have a long career.
Too big of a jackwagon for anyone to keep him around for any time whatsoever - he's a cancer.
10 teams in 12 seasons
Chris Stratton has been with 7 teams in 8 years. Cancer?
Like the ones above, Tommy's career of late has been 1 year deals, then traded to teams in the playoff hunt who want him.
For cancers, see Puig. He hasn't been in the league in 6 years.
Organizations keep signing Pham. And no, it's not because they know less about his personality than you...
1 year deals and playoff contending teams that use him for a quick playoff push then dispose of him
In other words teams that use him to strengthen their farm sent to teams that don’t appear to want to keep him around for very long.
I can agree he’s not on a Yasiel Puig level of cancer, but clearly his reputation hasn’t outweighed his rather high talent level. Hence why he’s never found a “forever home”
Not exactly sure where you’re going with this. Derosa was not good for the Cardinals and wasn’t good the rest of his career and I remember a lot of us wanting Quintana back. And the Cardinals at the very least expressed interest in it.
These two don’t really compare
Pham being brought in as a rental and then not resigned by the team renting him is very common.
I’m not saying he’s a big time cancer. All I’m saying is I’ve never even heard of a teammate or coach to upset about him leaving. Which is odd, considering he has been a pretty solid player