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Just replacing Fedde to start this year with a really good SP and the Cards might be in the 10 games over .500 neighborhood. Maybe better, IDK.
Point attempted, the Cards aren't that far away.

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 12:35 pm

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 12:25 pm

OldRed wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 06:48 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 06:18 am

AnExParrot wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 06:13 am

Idaho Cards wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 00:36 am Sorry the sarcasm of "AAA team" is so far fetched, it lacks the punch you are trying to deliver. The difference between AAA baseball and MLB is ginormous; one could say the Cardinals are an average to slightly below average MLB team.

The rub is: with the tradition and $$$$ they possess, they should be a better MLB organization.

So OldRed spent a couple/few pages trying to support a sarcastic argument?

I don’t know that he was being sarcastic, he might be serious.

I was serious and I'm still serious.

I am serious. And don’t call me Shirley.

Shirley you jest.

No. Surly I jest.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 13:46 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 13:40 pm Right you are. Calling your home town .500 team a “AAA” team is highly extreme.

Truth hurts.

Sorry, no truth to it.

Contreras
Gray
Donovan
Arenado
Winn
Herrera
Liberatore
Romero

Are they AAA players?

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 12:18 pm

12xu wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 11:43 am

Dazepster wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 07:30 am Should we lock everybody up long term or for 5 years at a minimum?

We beat the defending Champs in a game. We must be better than them!!!

An Inane Thread if there ever was one.

The Cardinals have played well vs the Dodgers. Record is now 3-1 vs LA, so even if they lose these next two, they'll still have a .500 record head to head vs the World Champions. Is it meaningful? Not really, what matters more is the Cardinals' record vs bad teams like Colorado(1-2), Miami(1-2), Atlanta(2-4),Pittsburgh(4-5), and the Angels(1-2).

What matters is that we get busy and start putting a rotation together that the Cardinals can win with. That we get a few more position players forward and a little more power in place to win consistently. I think it happens in a couple years.

Agree
Not saying they won’t tinker with adding position players but they are still sorting through the cost controlled guys and JJ & Crooks/Bernal are looming for 2026.
It’s the rotation that is the area of needed focus.
You have Gray and for now Pallante can hold down the back end.
McGreevy gets his shot.
Libby to me is the Wild Card. He shows potential.
Can he be a #2/#3???? Or another back end guy??
They do have some intriguing youngsters in Mathews and Doyle to name a few.
Bummer about Roby who was making a move.
I think Hence winds up in the BP??

Cusecards wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 20:49 pm

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 12:18 pm

12xu wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 11:43 am

Dazepster wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 07:30 am Should we lock everybody up long term or for 5 years at a minimum?

We beat the defending Champs in a game. We must be better than them!!!

An Inane Thread if there ever was one.

The Cardinals have played well vs the Dodgers. Record is now 3-1 vs LA, so even if they lose these next two, they'll still have a .500 record head to head vs the World Champions. Is it meaningful? Not really, what matters more is the Cardinals' record vs bad teams like Colorado(1-2), Miami(1-2), Atlanta(2-4),Pittsburgh(4-5), and the Angels(1-2).

What matters is that we get busy and start putting a rotation together that the Cardinals can win with. That we get a few more position players forward and a little more power in place to win consistently. I think it happens in a couple years.

Agree
Not saying they won’t tinker with adding position players but they are still sorting through the cost controlled guys and JJ & Crooks/Bernal are looming for 2026.
It’s the rotation that is the area of needed focus.
You have Gray and for now Pallante can hold down the back end.
McGreevy gets his shot.
Libby to me is the Wild Card. He shows potential.
Can he be a #2/#3???? Or another back end guy??
They do have some intriguing youngsters in Mathews and Doyle to name a few.
Bummer about Roby who was making a move.
I think Hence winds up in the BP??

Yes Libby made some progress this year but needs to continue to improve. His away games were not up to the standard of home games and we really need for him to take the next step.

I think Mathews needs some shoulder work to get back to his first year velocity. If he can do that, he could become a #2. Hopefully Doyle takes to pitching at an elite level quickly. Agree about Hence. He could be a valuable late inning guy.

McGreevy should fit into a #3 in a year or two.

I'd love to see a FA sortie for a top notch pitcher though wonder if that's just asking too much. Hit a HR and maybe we don't use Gray's '27 option.

Not holding my breathe for Roby but he would be a heckuva nice surprise.

Yep, go figure.

Cranny wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 20:46 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 13:46 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 13:40 pm Right you are. Calling your home town .500 team a “AAA” team is highly extreme.

Truth hurts.

Sorry, no truth to it.

Contreras
Gray
Donovan
Arenado
Winn
Herrera
Liberatore
Romero

Are they AAA players?

Now do the other 70 percent of the roster.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 06:18 am

AnExParrot wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 06:13 am

Idaho Cards wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 00:36 am Sorry the sarcasm of "AAA team" is so far fetched, it lacks the punch you are trying to deliver. The difference between AAA baseball and MLB is ginormous; one could say the Cardinals are an average to slightly below average MLB team.

The rub is: with the tradition and $$$$ they possess, they should be a better MLB organization.

So OldRed spent a couple/few pages trying to support a sarcastic argument?

I don’t know that he was being sarcastic, he might be serious.

I know Red was being serious. Idaho Cards? Not so much.

AnExParrot wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 06:22 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 06:18 am

AnExParrot wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 06:13 am

Idaho Cards wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 00:36 am Sorry the sarcasm of "AAA team" is so far fetched, it lacks the punch you are trying to deliver. The difference between AAA baseball and MLB is ginormous; one could say the Cardinals are an average to slightly below average MLB team.

The rub is: with the tradition and $$$$ they possess, they should be a better MLB organization.

So OldRed spent a couple/few pages trying to support a sarcastic argument?

I don’t know that he was being sarcastic, he might be serious.

I know Red was being serious. Idaho Cards? Not so much.

Yea. He did say so himself.