I forgot to ask, who’s the best.chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
McGreevy is the second best SP in the organization
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Mo’s a trained accountant. In his thinking, a little ROI is better than no ROI.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 08:59 amI forgot to ask, who’s the best.chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
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His refusal to bring McG up and keep him up while allowing Mikolas and Fedde to lose game after game is indeed managerial malpractice, something Mo's bene doing now for some time and I've also been saying (for three years now).chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
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You honestly thought they'd bring up a rookie to replacerockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:11 amHis refusal to bring McG up and keep him up while allowing Mikolas and Fedde to lose game after game is indeed managerial malpractice, something Mo's bene doing now for some time and I've also been saying (for three years now).chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
Fedde, $7.5 million, a 2024 3.72 and 1.204 WHIP, or
Lizard Puke, $18.5 million
For McG? Who had, in 2024, a 5.04 and 1.307?
Re: McGreevy is the second best SP in the organization
Time will tell with a McGreevy.
Hey at least he SURVIVED pitching at COORS and didn’t wind up in the fetal position sucking his thumb!
Hey at least he SURVIVED pitching at COORS and didn’t wind up in the fetal position sucking his thumb!
Re: McGreevy is the second best SP in the organization
Chuck, you said it!!!chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
Been saying this since ST
Look at the record, the Cards would be ALOT closer to first if the chitshow Miles/Fedde 1-10 disaster was avoided
But Contract Plays BDW and impotent MO are not winners.
Re: McGreevy is the second best SP in the organization
Scouty, what kind of (bleep) nonsense is pitching 2 guy who CLEARLY are not ML worthy. They basically are the same pitcher….throwing meat HOPING to get LUCKY….that’s it. REAL winning orgs make the tough decisions cast off the losing parts. Not this chitshow they revel is watching trash destroy a season….because they ALREADY PAID THEM…..the money is long gone. Insanityscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:18 amYou honestly thought they'd bring up a rookie to replacerockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:11 amHis refusal to bring McG up and keep him up while allowing Mikolas and Fedde to lose game after game is indeed managerial malpractice, something Mo's bene doing now for some time and I've also been saying (for three years now).chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
Fedde, $7.5 million, a 2024 3.72 and 1.204 WHIP, or
Lizard Puke, $18.5 million
For McG? Who had, in 2024, a 5.04 and 1.307?
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Re: McGreevy is the second best SP in the organization
Yepscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:18 amYou honestly thought they'd bring up a rookie to replacerockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:11 amHis refusal to bring McG up and keep him up while allowing Mikolas and Fedde to lose game after game is indeed managerial malpractice, something Mo's bene doing now for some time and I've also been saying (for three years now).chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
Fedde, $7.5 million, a 2024 3.72 and 1.204 WHIP, or
Lizard Puke, $18.5 million
For McG? Who had, in 2024, a 5.04 and 1.307?
Not sure where your numbers come from since for his MLB career:
McGreevy
7 GS
9 GP
2.98 ERA
0.92 WHiP
I'd have DFA'd lizard breath long ago (BDWJr has okayed this before...re: J. Peralta).
This is supposedly a "runway" season, correct?
And McG is definitely one of the young planes who should've been on that runway, correct?
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LoL. Would they? You think the farm could fill in for those 2 pitchers 38 games started this year so far? The 5-6 double headers where pitchers were called up?Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:24 amChuck, you said it!!!chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
Been saying this since ST
Look at the record, the Cards would be ALOT closer to first if the chitshow Miles/Fedde 1-10 disaster was avoided
But Contract Plays BDW and impotent MO are not winners.
I have no issue with Fedde. He's cheap and takes innings during a year where there aren't a plethora of SPs in the farm. Lizard Puke I've not appreciated since he was first brought over...but there's nothing on the pipeline that would cover those 2 being gone this season.
They are both, no longer hear next year and it's ridiculous to think they'd just eat lizard Pukes $'s and let him go
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I posted numbers from 2024. It's right there in the post.rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:32 amYepscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:18 amYou honestly thought they'd bring up a rookie to replacerockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:11 amHis refusal to bring McG up and keep him up while allowing Mikolas and Fedde to lose game after game is indeed managerial malpractice, something Mo's bene doing now for some time and I've also been saying (for three years now).chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
Fedde, $7.5 million, a 2024 3.72 and 1.204 WHIP, or
Lizard Puke, $18.5 million
For McG? Who had, in 2024, a 5.04 and 1.307?
Not sure where your numbers come from since for his MLB career:
McGreevy
7 GS
9 GP
2.98 ERA
0.92 WHiP
I'd have DFA'd lizard breath long ago (BDWJr has okayed this before...re: J. Peralta).
This is supposedly a "runway" season, correct?
And McG is definitely one of the young planes who should've been on that runway, correct?
I just posted this in response to Goldfan...who seems to be Shadying McG

You think the farm could fill in for those 2 pitchers 38 games started this year so far? The 5-6 double headers where pitchers were called up?
I have no issue with Fedde. He's cheap and takes innings during a year where there aren't a plethora of SPs in the farm. Lizard Puke I've not appreciated since he was first brought over...but there's nothing on the pipeline that would cover those 2 being gone this season.
They are both, no longer hear next year and it's ridiculous to think they'd just eat lizard Pukes $'s and let him go
Re: McGreevy is the second best SP in the organization
I’ve said since ST that McGreevy should be in rotation….no hiding that. If you’re happy with Fedde/Miles 1-10 in last whatever Bully for youscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:34 amI posted numbers from 2024. It's right there in the post.rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:32 amYepscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:18 amYou honestly thought they'd bring up a rookie to replacerockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:11 amHis refusal to bring McG up and keep him up while allowing Mikolas and Fedde to lose game after game is indeed managerial malpractice, something Mo's bene doing now for some time and I've also been saying (for three years now).chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
Fedde, $7.5 million, a 2024 3.72 and 1.204 WHIP, or
Lizard Puke, $18.5 million
For McG? Who had, in 2024, a 5.04 and 1.307?
Not sure where your numbers come from since for his MLB career:
McGreevy
7 GS
9 GP
2.98 ERA
0.92 WHiP
I'd have DFA'd lizard breath long ago (BDWJr has okayed this before...re: J. Peralta).
This is supposedly a "runway" season, correct?
And McG is definitely one of the young planes who should've been on that runway, correct?
I just posted this in response to Goldfan...who seems to be Shadying McG
You think the farm could fill in for those 2 pitchers 38 games started this year so far? The 5-6 double headers where pitchers were called up?
I have no issue with Fedde. He's cheap and takes innings during a year where there aren't a plethora of SPs in the farm. Lizard Puke I've not appreciated since he was first brought over...but there's nothing on the pipeline that would cover those 2 being gone this season.
They are both, no longer hear next year and it's ridiculous to think they'd just eat lizard Pukes $'s and let him go
If you don’t think that Graff could perform better than those 2 I don’t know what to tell you
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How is Graceffo doing in the minors? He's started how many games?Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:40 amI’ve said since ST that McGreevy should be in rotation….no hiding that. If you’re happy with Fedde/Miles 1-10 in last whatever Bully for youscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:34 amI posted numbers from 2024. It's right there in the post.rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:32 amYepscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:18 amYou honestly thought they'd bring up a rookie to replacerockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:11 amHis refusal to bring McG up and keep him up while allowing Mikolas and Fedde to lose game after game is indeed managerial malpractice, something Mo's bene doing now for some time and I've also been saying (for three years now).chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
Fedde, $7.5 million, a 2024 3.72 and 1.204 WHIP, or
Lizard Puke, $18.5 million
For McG? Who had, in 2024, a 5.04 and 1.307?
Not sure where your numbers come from since for his MLB career:
McGreevy
7 GS
9 GP
2.98 ERA
0.92 WHiP
I'd have DFA'd lizard breath long ago (BDWJr has okayed this before...re: J. Peralta).
This is supposedly a "runway" season, correct?
And McG is definitely one of the young planes who should've been on that runway, correct?
I just posted this in response to Goldfan...who seems to be Shadying McG
You think the farm could fill in for those 2 pitchers 38 games started this year so far? The 5-6 double headers where pitchers were called up?
I have no issue with Fedde. He's cheap and takes innings during a year where there aren't a plethora of SPs in the farm. Lizard Puke I've not appreciated since he was first brought over...but there's nothing on the pipeline that would cover those 2 being gone this season.
They are both, no longer hear next year and it's ridiculous to think they'd just eat lizard Pukes $'s and let him go
If you don’t think that Graff could perform better than those 2 I don’t know what to tell you

You're all "lathered up.". There's no arms down on the farm.
I love Joe Walsh:
And the pig grabbed a chicken
Said come on over, let's do-si-do a few
The chicken said no, you're covered with mud
Called him a pig and it was true
And every gol' dang one o' their tails was a waggin'
Under the old horse-shoe
That night, the animals fell off the wagon
And a tractor or two
Well they was out in the middle of nowhere
They was rockin' out in the barn
They was tearin' it up in the hayloft
Gettin' down on the farm
Re: McGreevy is the second best SP in the organization
Your Grandma could pitch better than Fedde/Milesscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:47 amHow is Graceffo doing in the minors? He's started how many games?Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:40 amI’ve said since ST that McGreevy should be in rotation….no hiding that. If you’re happy with Fedde/Miles 1-10 in last whatever Bully for youscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:34 amI posted numbers from 2024. It's right there in the post.rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:32 amYepscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:18 amYou honestly thought they'd bring up a rookie to replacerockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:11 amHis refusal to bring McG up and keep him up while allowing Mikolas and Fedde to lose game after game is indeed managerial malpractice, something Mo's bene doing now for some time and I've also been saying (for three years now).chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
Fedde, $7.5 million, a 2024 3.72 and 1.204 WHIP, or
Lizard Puke, $18.5 million
For McG? Who had, in 2024, a 5.04 and 1.307?
Not sure where your numbers come from since for his MLB career:
McGreevy
7 GS
9 GP
2.98 ERA
0.92 WHiP
I'd have DFA'd lizard breath long ago (BDWJr has okayed this before...re: J. Peralta).
This is supposedly a "runway" season, correct?
And McG is definitely one of the young planes who should've been on that runway, correct?
I just posted this in response to Goldfan...who seems to be Shadying McG
You think the farm could fill in for those 2 pitchers 38 games started this year so far? The 5-6 double headers where pitchers were called up?
I have no issue with Fedde. He's cheap and takes innings during a year where there aren't a plethora of SPs in the farm. Lizard Puke I've not appreciated since he was first brought over...but there's nothing on the pipeline that would cover those 2 being gone this season.
They are both, no longer hear next year and it's ridiculous to think they'd just eat lizard Pukes $'s and let him go
If you don’t think that Graff could perform better than those 2 I don’t know what to tell you![]()
You're all "lathered up.". There's no arms down on the farm.
I love Joe Walsh:
And the pig grabbed a chicken
Said come on over, let's do-si-do a few
The chicken said no, you're covered with mud
Called him a pig and it was true
And every gol' dang one o' their tails was a waggin'
Under the old horse-shoe
That night, the animals fell off the wagon
And a tractor or two
Well they was out in the middle of nowhere
They was rockin' out in the barn
They was tearin' it up in the hayloft
Gettin' down on the farm
Mo had his perfect opp to trade Fedde in offseason but opted to showcase his failure all first half…..absolute joke
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Re: McGreevy is the second best SP in the organization
Then you should know well Funk 49; The Ashes, the Rain, and I; Walk Away.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:47 amHow is Graceffo doing in the minors? He's started how many games?Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:40 amI’ve said since ST that McGreevy should be in rotation….no hiding that. If you’re happy with Fedde/Miles 1-10 in last whatever Bully for youscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:34 amI posted numbers from 2024. It's right there in the post.rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:32 amYepscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:18 amYou honestly thought they'd bring up a rookie to replacerockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:11 amHis refusal to bring McG up and keep him up while allowing Mikolas and Fedde to lose game after game is indeed managerial malpractice, something Mo's bene doing now for some time and I've also been saying (for three years now).chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
Fedde, $7.5 million, a 2024 3.72 and 1.204 WHIP, or
Lizard Puke, $18.5 million
For McG? Who had, in 2024, a 5.04 and 1.307?
Not sure where your numbers come from since for his MLB career:
McGreevy
7 GS
9 GP
2.98 ERA
0.92 WHiP
I'd have DFA'd lizard breath long ago (BDWJr has okayed this before...re: J. Peralta).
This is supposedly a "runway" season, correct?
And McG is definitely one of the young planes who should've been on that runway, correct?
I just posted this in response to Goldfan...who seems to be Shadying McG
You think the farm could fill in for those 2 pitchers 38 games started this year so far? The 5-6 double headers where pitchers were called up?
I have no issue with Fedde. He's cheap and takes innings during a year where there aren't a plethora of SPs in the farm. Lizard Puke I've not appreciated since he was first brought over...but there's nothing on the pipeline that would cover those 2 being gone this season.
They are both, no longer hear next year and it's ridiculous to think they'd just eat lizard Pukes $'s and let him go
If you don’t think that Graff could perform better than those 2 I don’t know what to tell you![]()
You're all "lathered up.". There's no arms down on the farm.
I love Joe Walsh:
And the pig grabbed a chicken
Said come on over, let's do-si-do a few
The chicken said no, you're covered with mud
Called him a pig and it was true
And every gol' dang one o' their tails was a waggin'
Under the old horse-shoe
That night, the animals fell off the wagon
And a tractor or two
Well they was out in the middle of nowhere
They was rockin' out in the barn
They was tearin' it up in the hayloft
Gettin' down on the farm
I always thought a great name for a Joe song would have been - Muff Diver.
Re: McGreevy is the second best SP in the organization
Mikolas + Fedde this season in 37 combined starts: 0.4 fWAR in 208.1 innings.
McGreevy: 0.4 fWAR in 4 starts and 22.2 innings.
Nice work, Mozeliak! Outstanding judgment in a "runway" season.
From Bernie
McGreevy: 0.4 fWAR in 4 starts and 22.2 innings.
Nice work, Mozeliak! Outstanding judgment in a "runway" season.
From Bernie
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Re: McGreevy is the second best SP in the organization
No. My Grandma's are dead. Fedde was Ok in 2024 and cost $7.5.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:50 amYour Grandma could pitch better than Fedde/Milesscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:47 amHow is Graceffo doing in the minors? He's started how many games?Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:40 amI’ve said since ST that McGreevy should be in rotation….no hiding that. If you’re happy with Fedde/Miles 1-10 in last whatever Bully for youscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:34 amI posted numbers from 2024. It's right there in the post.rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:32 amYepscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:18 amYou honestly thought they'd bring up a rookie to replacerockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:11 amHis refusal to bring McG up and keep him up while allowing Mikolas and Fedde to lose game after game is indeed managerial malpractice, something Mo's bene doing now for some time and I've also been saying (for three years now).chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 21:45 pm And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.
Fedde, $7.5 million, a 2024 3.72 and 1.204 WHIP, or
Lizard Puke, $18.5 million
For McG? Who had, in 2024, a 5.04 and 1.307?
Not sure where your numbers come from since for his MLB career:
McGreevy
7 GS
9 GP
2.98 ERA
0.92 WHiP
I'd have DFA'd lizard breath long ago (BDWJr has okayed this before...re: J. Peralta).
This is supposedly a "runway" season, correct?
And McG is definitely one of the young planes who should've been on that runway, correct?
I just posted this in response to Goldfan...who seems to be Shadying McG
You think the farm could fill in for those 2 pitchers 38 games started this year so far? The 5-6 double headers where pitchers were called up?
I have no issue with Fedde. He's cheap and takes innings during a year where there aren't a plethora of SPs in the farm. Lizard Puke I've not appreciated since he was first brought over...but there's nothing on the pipeline that would cover those 2 being gone this season.
They are both, no longer hear next year and it's ridiculous to think they'd just eat lizard Pukes $'s and let him go
If you don’t think that Graff could perform better than those 2 I don’t know what to tell you![]()
You're all "lathered up.". There's no arms down on the farm.
I love Joe Walsh:
And the pig grabbed a chicken
Said come on over, let's do-si-do a few
The chicken said no, you're covered with mud
Called him a pig and it was true
And every gol' dang one o' their tails was a waggin'
Under the old horse-shoe
That night, the animals fell off the wagon
And a tractor or two
Well they was out in the middle of nowhere
They was rockin' out in the barn
They was tearin' it up in the hayloft
Gettin' down on the farm
Mo had his perfect opp to trade Fedde in offseason but opted to showcase his failure all first half…..absolute joke
Again, you're getting what you want, new leadership. It's like 6 weeks away...may even see the new leadership making the deals.
How's the blood pressure
