Re: Do you forsee Bloom trading Donovan over the winter ?
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 18:48 pm
NO! If he is traded, all you have done is create another hole in the line up. Nobody currently on the roster is as good.
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Agree nobody on current roster as good.
Ok, so you get a good player in return, what have you realistically gained. That player is still surrounded by the same bunch Donovan was. With better players around Donovan, he will be a better player.
That's over the top even for the internet. The Cards are looking to improve in a couple of key areas. You aren't going to get the return for Nootbar than you would for BD. One of the best prospects in baseball should be ready sometime next year to play where he's playing now. If he can help get a top of the rotation starter or a power hitting OF then why wouldn't you trade him under the circumstances.RamFan08NY wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 18:37 pmIf so, they've turned in to the Pirates. Trade the good players before you have to pay them. Winn next, then JJ. Rinse and repeat.bakker wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 15:24 pm Very good possibility. Made that comment in a thread yesterday. He would bring back a bigger return than most if not all of the other realistic options and an in-house replacement seems to be available. Further only 2 more years on team control and the second year could involve a lengthy lock out or strike.
Do you really think a team is going to trade a TOR pitcher, or a stud power hitting corner outfielder for a 2b? Would you trade your best pitching prospects for BD?bakker wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 19:05 pmThat's over the top even for the internet. The Cards are looking to improve in a couple of key areas. You aren't going to get the return for Nootbar than you would for BD. One of the best prospects in baseball should be ready sometime next year to play where he's playing now. If he can help get a top of the rotation starter or a power hitting OF then why wouldn't you trade him under the circumstances.RamFan08NY wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 18:37 pmIf so, they've turned in to the Pirates. Trade the good players before you have to pay them. Winn next, then JJ. Rinse and repeat.bakker wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 15:24 pm Very good possibility. Made that comment in a thread yesterday. He would bring back a bigger return than most if not all of the other realistic options and an in-house replacement seems to be available. Further only 2 more years on team control and the second year could involve a lengthy lock out or strike.
Donovan has two arb years left. In a normal environment they might either buy those out and extend two more years or trade him. But with declining revenue and the CBA up after '26 I think any of their action for the MLB club this offseason will be minor.ramfandan wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 15:17 pm Speculation starting that Brendan Donovan may be on the Atros radar at trade deadline as well as Yankees . Some think Mo would not make a blockbuster on the way out the door as POBO. (He would defer that decision to Bloom after Mo departs .)
https://www.si.com/mlb/cardinals/st-lou ... ned-colin3
Astros rumor: https://sports.yahoo.com/article/cardin ... 12986.html
With both 2026 & 2027 years remaining , Donovan is cost-controlled for two more years (whatever he gets in arbitration ).
For those who are of the philosophy, trade a player while he is at his highest value prior to losing him his free agency year , Donnie fits that right now.
He garnered All Star honors plus was the only player garnering 2 hits . He has earned a Gold Glove and is versatile other than 2nd base too .
3rd highest batting average.
For Donovan currently , there would be a king's ransom for a player his caliber. Bloom could get quite the haul . Some MLB Radio talk said Bloom more likely since he has JJ Wetherholt to play 2nd base in 2026 and beyond
So what are you thinking ? If Donovan isn't traded in a surprise move at the deadline, do you forsee Bloom trading Donovan over the winter ?
Yes or No
Important note : The question did NOT ask if YOU would trade Donovan this winter but rather if you feel Bloom would do so.
You may say YES Bloom will but I hope he does not . No, Bloom will not but I hope he does .
I never said they would. One where did I post someone giving up their best pitching prospect? Further where did I post it would be one for one? I posted if he can help get that type of player. Where I did I post it was to avoid a pay raise? Yes it's relevant there's only 2 more years of control but more importantly you have to give the team you are trading with quality to get quality in return. BD could go a long way to make that happen. If you think that's what the Pirates have been up to over the past several decades you haven't been following them very closely.RamFan08NY wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 19:31 pmDo you really think a team is going to trade a TOR pitcher, or a stud power hitting corner outfielder for a 2b? Would you trade your best pitching prospects for BD?bakker wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 19:05 pmThat's over the top even for the internet. The Cards are looking to improve in a couple of key areas. You aren't going to get the return for Nootbar than you would for BD. One of the best prospects in baseball should be ready sometime next year to play where he's playing now. If he can help get a top of the rotation starter or a power hitting OF then why wouldn't you trade him under the circumstances.RamFan08NY wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 18:37 pmIf so, they've turned in to the Pirates. Trade the good players before you have to pay them. Winn next, then JJ. Rinse and repeat.bakker wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 15:24 pm Very good possibility. Made that comment in a thread yesterday. He would bring back a bigger return than most if not all of the other realistic options and an in-house replacement seems to be available. Further only 2 more years on team control and the second year could involve a lengthy lock out or strike.
If you trade BD you're doing it to avoid a pay raise, and you hope that you get an equal player in return. AKA, the Pittsburg Pirates.
If done correctly, what you gain is a young player, maybe two, that the club controls for six years…
Sorry for the misunderstanding. You didn't mention a pay raise. Other posters have basically suggested moving him before his next contract.bakker wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 19:38 pmI never said they would. One where did I post someone giving up their best pitching prospect? Further where did I post it would be one for one? I posted if he can help get that type of player. Where I did I post it was to avoid a pay raise? Yes it's relevant there's only 2 more years of control but more importantly you have to give the team you are trading with quality to get quality in return. BD could go a long way to make that happen. If you think that's what the Pirates have been up to over the past several decades you haven't been following them very closely.RamFan08NY wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 19:31 pmDo you really think a team is going to trade a TOR pitcher, or a stud power hitting corner outfielder for a 2b? Would you trade your best pitching prospects for BD?bakker wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 19:05 pmThat's over the top even for the internet. The Cards are looking to improve in a couple of key areas. You aren't going to get the return for Nootbar than you would for BD. One of the best prospects in baseball should be ready sometime next year to play where he's playing now. If he can help get a top of the rotation starter or a power hitting OF then why wouldn't you trade him under the circumstances.RamFan08NY wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 18:37 pmIf so, they've turned in to the Pirates. Trade the good players before you have to pay them. Winn next, then JJ. Rinse and repeat.bakker wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 15:24 pm Very good possibility. Made that comment in a thread yesterday. He would bring back a bigger return than most if not all of the other realistic options and an in-house replacement seems to be available. Further only 2 more years on team control and the second year could involve a lengthy lock out or strike.
If you trade BD you're doing it to avoid a pay raise, and you hope that you get an equal player in return. AKA, the Pittsburg Pirates.
Totally agree. I was sort of trying to say it would take a lot to get rid of him.
It depends on the offer. Problem with Donovan is he isn’t the type of player for which most teams would offer their top prospects. For a couple of young arms with loads of remaining control… yeah, I think that would be considered even if they project as relievers.