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VSII can buntscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:52 amHave you seen MLB players bunt? Have you seen Argo's horrible attempts?rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:50 amSqueeze play in the 9th w/VSII?
I suspect the team knows they blow at bunting. How many squeeze plays occur in MLB? Bunting is a lost art throughout the league.
Not competentlyGoldfan wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:05 amVSII can buntscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:52 amHave you seen MLB players bunt? Have you seen Argo's horrible attempts?rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:50 amSqueeze play in the 9th w/VSII?
I suspect the team knows they blow at bunting. How many squeeze plays occur in MLB? Bunting is a lost art throughout the league.
And he's right. Pallante should have plunked a batter the very next inning. And so what if he put a runner on base in a scoreless game? I can guarandamntee you the game would have played out differently after that. You DO NOT hold back on doing something you have to do because you are scared of putting someone on base.
LolGoldfan wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:05 amVSII can buntscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:52 amHave you seen MLB players bunt? Have you seen Argo's horrible attempts?rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:50 amSqueeze play in the 9th w/VSII?
I suspect the team knows they blow at bunting. How many squeeze plays occur in MLB? Bunting is a lost art throughout the league.
Hitting a player on purpose regardless of the situation requires strategy. Not just something you do daily. Hit a human.RunSup wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:38 am Absolutely. Oneil Cruz needed to hit the dirt after Skenes hit Contreras. The fact that no Cardinal pitcher responded was weak. Not even pitching inside.
Libby ought to make a statement to Skenes and Pirates today with the first pitch to Cruz. If the Cardinals don't respond they get what they deserve.
But it isn't about the game, per se. Contreras keeps getting buzzed and hit because other teams know the Cardinals are wimps and won't retaliate. Change that perception and Contreras starts getting pitched differently. And he's less likely to get hurt.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:43 amHitting a player on purpose regardless of the situation requires strategy. Not just something you do daily. Hit a human.RunSup wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:38 am Absolutely. Oneil Cruz needed to hit the dirt after Skenes hit Contreras. The fact that no Cardinal pitcher responded was weak. Not even pitching inside.
Libby ought to make a statement to Skenes and Pirates today with the first pitch to Cruz. If the Cardinals don't respond they get what they deserve.
So with strategy in mind, the hit must come at the least impactful moment in a game, say a blow out.
Or just let it go. A win is worth much more than spiteful retaliation. It’s like two wins.
When he squares quickly, he's good at it. When he tries to disguise it and squares late, he's not.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:52 amHave you seen MLB players bunt? Have you seen Argo's horrible attempts?rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:50 amSqueeze play in the 9th w/VSII?
I suspect the team knows they blow at bunting. How many squeeze plays occur in MLB? Bunting is a lost art throughout the league.
Nope. Not in this case. You defend your hitters and put an end to the nonsense. That is the strategic thinking in play.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:43 amHitting a player on purpose regardless of the situation requires strategy. Not just something you do daily. Hit a human.RunSup wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:38 am Absolutely. Oneil Cruz needed to hit the dirt after Skenes hit Contreras. The fact that no Cardinal pitcher responded was weak. Not even pitching inside.
Libby ought to make a statement to Skenes and Pirates today with the first pitch to Cruz. If the Cardinals don't respond they get what they deserve.
So with strategy in mind, the hit must come at the least impactful moment in a game, say a blow out.
Or just let it go. A win is worth much more than spiteful retaliation. It’s like two wins.
You could also wait till he next Skenes game. Not saying it shouldn’t happen. Am concerned with timing.RunSup wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 10:08 amNope. Not in this case. You defend your hitters and put an end to the nonsense. That is the strategic thinking in play.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:43 amHitting a player on purpose regardless of the situation requires strategy. Not just something you do daily. Hit a human.RunSup wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:38 am Absolutely. Oneil Cruz needed to hit the dirt after Skenes hit Contreras. The fact that no Cardinal pitcher responded was weak. Not even pitching inside.
Libby ought to make a statement to Skenes and Pirates today with the first pitch to Cruz. If the Cardinals don't respond they get what they deserve.
So with strategy in mind, the hit must come at the least impactful moment in a game, say a blow out.
Or just let it go. A win is worth much more than spiteful retaliation. It’s like two wins.
Skenes doesn't bat and have to face his own music. So you put their best player on the dirt and bring on the subsequent scrum.
All done strategically. The Cardinals folded like a used Kleenex last night. Are they a team or not? Do they stand up for each other or not? These questions get asked and answered today.
It's Gray today not Libby, sorry. Gray is a vet and should know what to do.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 10:24 amYou could also wait till he next Skenes game. Not saying it shouldn’t happen. Am concerned with timing.RunSup wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 10:08 amNope. Not in this case. You defend your hitters and put an end to the nonsense. That is the strategic thinking in play.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:43 amHitting a player on purpose regardless of the situation requires strategy. Not just something you do daily. Hit a human.RunSup wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:38 am Absolutely. Oneil Cruz needed to hit the dirt after Skenes hit Contreras. The fact that no Cardinal pitcher responded was weak. Not even pitching inside.
Libby ought to make a statement to Skenes and Pirates today with the first pitch to Cruz. If the Cardinals don't respond they get what they deserve.
So with strategy in mind, the hit must come at the least impactful moment in a game, say a blow out.
Or just let it go. A win is worth much more than spiteful retaliation. It’s like two wins.
Skenes doesn't bat and have to face his own music. So you put their best player on the dirt and bring on the subsequent scrum.
All done strategically. The Cardinals folded like a used Kleenex last night. Are they a team or not? Do they stand up for each other or not? These questions get asked and answered today.
Not a fan of purposeful hitting, but that is the strongest argument I’ve heard in favor of it.BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:47 amBut it isn't about the game, per se. Contreras keeps getting buzzed and hit because other teams know the Cardinals are wimps and won't retaliate. Change that perception and Contreras starts getting pitched differently. And he's less likely to get hurt.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:43 amHitting a player on purpose regardless of the situation requires strategy. Not just something you do daily. Hit a human.RunSup wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:38 am Absolutely. Oneil Cruz needed to hit the dirt after Skenes hit Contreras. The fact that no Cardinal pitcher responded was weak. Not even pitching inside.
Libby ought to make a statement to Skenes and Pirates today with the first pitch to Cruz. If the Cardinals don't respond they get what they deserve.
So with strategy in mind, the hit must come at the least impactful moment in a game, say a blow out.
Or just let it go. A win is worth much more than spiteful retaliation. It’s like two wins.
no, they like al of MLB, suck at it...And a suicide squeeze is last second presentation. high failure rates.rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:49 amWhen he squares quickly, he's good at it. When he tries to disguise it and squares late, he's not.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:52 amHave you seen MLB players bunt? Have you seen Argo's horrible attempts?rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:50 amSqueeze play in the 9th w/VSII?
I suspect the team knows they blow at bunting. How many squeeze plays occur in MLB? Bunting is a lost art throughout the league.
On a squeeze w/even a decent runner like Fermin the odds are strong he walks home since he's coming full tilt and all you have to do is put the bunt in play.
But strategic thinking evades Oli so I didn't think he'd use it.
Actually high success rate as long as the hitter gets the bunt down.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 11:32 amno, they like al of MLB, suck at it...And a suicide squeeze is last second presentation. high failure rates.rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:49 amWhen he squares quickly, he's good at it. When he tries to disguise it and squares late, he's not.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:52 amHave you seen MLB players bunt? Have you seen Argo's horrible attempts?rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:50 amSqueeze play in the 9th w/VSII?
I suspect the team knows they blow at bunting. How many squeeze plays occur in MLB? Bunting is a lost art throughout the league.
On a squeeze w/even a decent runner like Fermin the odds are strong he walks home since he's coming full tilt and all you have to do is put the bunt in play.
But strategic thinking evades Oli so I didn't think he'd use it.
Simply getting these [shirt]ty hitters to pop up to the outfield is the best and easiest way...