What deadline moves do you want to see?

[scoutyjones2]

Get Cody Thomas from the A's

[ClassicO]

Curious about Helsley. Do you offer him a QO if they don't trade him?

It's $21M for a QO. So no.

Sell any of the soon-to-be free agents that they can. They won't win the WS and need young players, even if they have to take a chance on some prospects who may not pan out.

I can't believe anyone seriously and reasonably thinks:
1) any of the 4 FAs will be back;
2) that this team is going to the playoffs, or if they do, that it's very far; or
3) Management doesn't have to make a move for the future.

[Futuregm2]

Curious about Helsley. Do you offer him a QO if they don't trade him?

It's $21M for a QO. So no.

Sell any of the soon-to-be free agents that they can. They won't win the WS and need young players, even if they have to take a chance on some prospects who may not pan out.

I can't believe anyone seriously and reasonably thinks:
1) any of the 4 FAs will be back;
[B}2) that this team is going to the playoffs, or if they do, that it's very far; or [/B]
3) Management doesn't have to make a move for the future.

Why not? They are 47-38, currently hold a WC spot, and are only 2.5 back in the division. And the team they are chasing have lost 7 of their last 11 series against above .500 teams. They are mainly built on a stretch of playing losing teams. The Cards are 19-10 in their last 29 road games. They are 4th in runs per game in the NL. They could use an upgrade at SP, but their top 2 SPs at least puts them in a good position to do well in the postseason. IF they could upgrade their #3/2 spot, they could really make noise in the postseason IMO.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Get Cody Thomas from the A's

Name is Colby. He would be a great fit for the Cardinals. Plays either corner OF. RHB. .297 BA, .906 OPS, 17 HR at AAA. 24 years old. Does strike out. Athletics OF is full. I like it. Good fit.

[Cusecards]

Trading players on this team is going to be tough. How much of a market is there for Mikolas and Fedde. They’re healthy but that’s it. They haven’t been very good. Gray, Arenado and Contreras just don’t want to leave and the success of this team isn’t helping. Trying to trade guys like Nootbaar, Walker or Gorman would be a mistake because you would be moving guys who have minimal value now because of down years. The only guys who you could possibly trade and get something for are in the bullpen (Helsley, Maton and Matz).

The bullpen is a strength and their performance has backed that up. Helsley should be moved and it’s hard to believe he’s still here. Maton you could move and he’s not costing us much. That should give him some value. Matz is another guy, the longer we hang onto him the less we will get.

The good news is that Mikolas and Matz are on expiring contracts so they aren’t our problem after this year and that’s another 30 million in payroll leaving. Helsley and Maton are on expiring contracts but have value and we shouldn’t let them just walk. Arenado is on the back end of his contract which decreases in salary each year. Maybe if his year continues to be productive there could be a market BUT if he doesn’t want to leave we don’t have much to say about it.

Move the bullpen arms for sure but those might be the only ones we can. We have too many guys who just don’t want to leave.

Solid ideas

[cardstatman]

I'm not a believer in this team being just a player or two away from greatness.

So I don't really want them to do any "all in" trades this year.

However, I'd make any trade I'm likely to win in the longer term.

[Futuregm2]

I'm not a believer in this team being just a player or two away from greatness.

So I don't really want them to do any "all in" trades this year.

However, I'd make any trade I'm likely to win in the longer term.

Agreed, I wouldn’t be trading for any rental unless the price was ridiculously cheap. But, I would buy for the right talent that is on the younger end and controllable/signed for a decent amount of time.

A guy like Oneil Cruz, Brent Rooker, Joe Ryan, Byron Buxton, Edward Cabrera, Jesus Sanchez, etc. comes to mind.