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scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 13:52 pm

gpeeps22 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 09:55 am Mo has put together a roster that's capable of winning and some of the previously criticized trades (i.e. Libby) have panned out. On the other hand, Oli has inspired this team by instituting a belief they can win every game and an underdog mentality.

What do you think?

Neither. We're fans

+1, Exactly, but we do owe an apology to Mo-ran's beautiful family!

It's May. Let's wait until October to celebrate. Having said that perhaps we owe it to the TV deal collapsing which prevented Mozeliak from trading away the best prospects in the system for nothing.

Cranny wrote: ↑20 May 2025 14:42 pm No apology necessary. I follow and support the Cardinals no matter who the POBO and field manager are.

You mean you follow and support the Owner/POBO/Manager no matter how the Cards are doing…..

Goldfan wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:22 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑20 May 2025 14:42 pm No apology necessary. I follow and support the Cardinals no matter who the POBO and field manager are.

You mean you follow and support the Owner/POBO/Manager no matter how the Cards are doing…..

That's what a fan does...

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:42 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:22 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑20 May 2025 14:42 pm No apology necessary. I follow and support the Cardinals no matter who the POBO and field manager are.

You mean you follow and support the Owner/POBO/Manager no matter how the Cards are doing…..

That's what a fan does...

Fans support the owner and front office no matter what the results are?

Don't owe an apology to anyone. Oli is a few years away from getting any kind of apology. He had his own mishandling of the team 2 years ago. Mo also doesn't get an apology because he constructed a team last year that led to one of the worst in history for the Cardinals and the goal was playoffs.

This is a combined issue and no one is out of the woods. The Dewitts are a big part to blame because of how tone deaf they were. This wouldn't have been a big deal and a youth movement would have been welcome, but threatening the fans during it is a little insane. I am a lurker in the Cards forum and don't post much. But this one felt obligated to post.

The Marmot still makes stupid moves so this team is winning in spite of him.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:46 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:42 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:22 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑20 May 2025 14:42 pm No apology necessary. I follow and support the Cardinals no matter who the POBO and field manager are.

You mean you follow and support the Owner/POBO/Manager no matter how the Cards are doing…..

That's what a fan does...

Fans support the owner and front office no matter what the results are?

I'm a fan of the team. Not the names on the back of the jersey or the management team or coaches, managers, bat boys, etc...

Can you be critical. Of course...fan is short for fanatical

lolol

What time is the parade?

Jatalk wrote: ↑20 May 2025 10:08 am When you review the organization top to bottom Mo has been a disaster. Let the farm system deteriorate. Multiple bad trades and transactions. Hired weak managers fired good ones. Leaving the organization worse off than he found it. Of course ownership shares the blame.

I won’t judge Oli until later in the year. But he is not a managing wizard.

Nor is he a playoff-quality mgr

smilinjoefission wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:59 pm The Marmot still makes stupid moves so this team is winning in spite of him.

What a stupid comment

hullie wrote: ↑20 May 2025 17:22 pm

smilinjoefission wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:59 pm The Marmot still makes stupid moves so this team is winning in spite of him.

What a stupid comment

It is a comment that shows his lack of baseball history.

thetank2 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 17:24 pm

hullie wrote: ↑20 May 2025 17:22 pm

smilinjoefission wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:59 pm The Marmot still makes stupid moves so this team is winning in spite of him.

What a stupid comment

It is a comment that shows his lack of baseball history.

Yawn, you have no influence here sock.

Fredbird

gpeeps22 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 09:55 am Mo has put together a roster that's capable of winning and some of the previously criticized trades (i.e. Libby) have panned out. On the other hand, Oli has inspired this team by instituting a belief they can win every game and an underdog mentality.

What do you think?

Neither is owed an apology
If the playoffs started today they would be on the outside looking in. Besides the season is less than 1/3 finished, they haven't proven anything yet except that they are competitive through May.

Get back to us later in the season as if they built/played this season well.