With Robberse going down, any chance Roby gets promoted?

[Shady]

Not sure what the plan is for Roby this season. But he certainly didn't hurt his chances for a promotion to Memphis by his outstanding performance last night.

100% of guys returning from major shoulder injuries, that gas out at 55 pitches 2 months into the season, don't get promoted.

It was his best outing of the season...in 2 years actually. And it was against the worst team in the Texas League...the same team that Roby did well against to start the season. He's NOT getting promoted based off last night.

He gets an "atta boy" for the 11K's in 5 IP...but he doesn't possess the stamina to go to AAA. He was done after 55 pitches, and barely hung on at 63 for 1 more out.

He might just be a 5 innings type starting pitcher. Like many seem to be these days. Give me five quality innings like Roby had last night. Many managers would be delighted.

I'll take a 5 inning pitcher, too....but he's not that on a consistent basis. He was coming off 2 bad outings in a row.

5 innings on 55 pitches isn't normal...that's 9 inning pace in the Majors....and He's FAR away from that on a consistent basis.

He stays in Springfield and rehabs and builds the stamina. I wish you would get that.

"I wish you would get that". Oh, I get that. But do you get that there could be circumstances where the organization feels the need to promote him? Circumstances you and I aren't privy to.

[An Old Friend]

Not sure what the plan is for Roby this season. But he certainly didn't hurt his chances for a promotion to Memphis by his outstanding performance last night.

100% of guys returning from major shoulder injuries, that gas out at 55 pitches 2 months into the season, don't get promoted.

It was his best outing of the season...in 2 years actually. And it was against the worst team in the Texas League...the same team that Roby did well against to start the season. He's NOT getting promoted based off last night.

He gets an "atta boy" for the 11K's in 5 IP...but he doesn't possess the stamina to go to AAA. He was done after 55 pitches, and barely hung on at 63 for 1 more out.

He might just be a 5 innings type starting pitcher. Like many seem to be these days. Give me five quality innings like Roby had last night. Many managers would be delighted.

I'll take a 5 inning pitcher, too....but he's not that on a consistent basis. He was coming off 2 bad outings in a row.

5 innings on 55 pitches isn't normal...that's 9 inning pace in the Majors....and He's FAR away from that on a consistent basis.

He stays in Springfield and rehabs and builds the stamina. I wish you would get that.

"I wish you would get that". Oh, I get that. But do you get that there could be circumstances where the organization feels the need to promote him? Circumstances you and I aren't privy to.

The problem with your statement is “need to promote”.

Promotions should be earned and given appropriately based on development, not to fill a hole on another minor league roster.

Would you ever suggest a “need to demote” a performing player at AAA because of a perceived need at AA?

[Shady]

Not sure what the plan is for Roby this season. But he certainly didn't hurt his chances for a promotion to Memphis by his outstanding performance last night.

100% of guys returning from major shoulder injuries, that gas out at 55 pitches 2 months into the season, don't get promoted.

It was his best outing of the season...in 2 years actually. And it was against the worst team in the Texas League...the same team that Roby did well against to start the season. He's NOT getting promoted based off last night.

He gets an "atta boy" for the 11K's in 5 IP...but he doesn't possess the stamina to go to AAA. He was done after 55 pitches, and barely hung on at 63 for 1 more out.

He might just be a 5 innings type starting pitcher. Like many seem to be these days. Give me five quality innings like Roby had last night. Many managers would be delighted.

I'll take a 5 inning pitcher, too....but he's not that on a consistent basis. He was coming off 2 bad outings in a row.

5 innings on 55 pitches isn't normal...that's 9 inning pace in the Majors....and He's FAR away from that on a consistent basis.

He stays in Springfield and rehabs and builds the stamina. I wish you would get that.

"I wish you would get that". Oh, I get that. But do you get that there could be circumstances where the organization feels the need to promote him? Circumstances you and I aren't privy to.

The problem with your statement is “need to promote”.

Promotions should be earned and given appropriately based on development, not to fill a hole on another minor league roster.

Would you ever suggest a “need to demote” a performing player at AAA because of a perceived need at AA?

Where did I definitely say "need to promote" as in me saying that was my personal feeling? Roby is a helluva talent whether you see it or not. There may be something he's been working on in order to advance that now is clicking.

[An Old Friend]

Not sure what the plan is for Roby this season. But he certainly didn't hurt his chances for a promotion to Memphis by his outstanding performance last night.

100% of guys returning from major shoulder injuries, that gas out at 55 pitches 2 months into the season, don't get promoted.

It was his best outing of the season...in 2 years actually. And it was against the worst team in the Texas League...the same team that Roby did well against to start the season. He's NOT getting promoted based off last night.

He gets an "atta boy" for the 11K's in 5 IP...but he doesn't possess the stamina to go to AAA. He was done after 55 pitches, and barely hung on at 63 for 1 more out.

He might just be a 5 innings type starting pitcher. Like many seem to be these days. Give me five quality innings like Roby had last night. Many managers would be delighted.

I'll take a 5 inning pitcher, too....but he's not that on a consistent basis. He was coming off 2 bad outings in a row.

5 innings on 55 pitches isn't normal...that's 9 inning pace in the Majors....and He's FAR away from that on a consistent basis.

He stays in Springfield and rehabs and builds the stamina. I wish you would get that.

"I wish you would get that". Oh, I get that. But do you get that there could be circumstances where the organization feels the need to promote him? Circumstances you and I aren't privy to.

The problem with your statement is “need to promote”.

Promotions should be earned and given appropriately based on development, not to fill a hole on another minor league roster.

Would you ever suggest a “need to demote” a performing player at AAA because of a perceived need at AA?

Where did I definitely say "need to promote" as in me saying that was my personal feeling? Roby is a helluva talent whether you see it or not. There may be something he's been working on in order to advance that now is clicking.

I made it really big for you.

[Shady]

Not sure what the plan is for Roby this season. But he certainly didn't hurt his chances for a promotion to Memphis by his outstanding performance last night.

100% of guys returning from major shoulder injuries, that gas out at 55 pitches 2 months into the season, don't get promoted.

It was his best outing of the season...in 2 years actually. And it was against the worst team in the Texas League...the same team that Roby did well against to start the season. He's NOT getting promoted based off last night.

He gets an "atta boy" for the 11K's in 5 IP...but he doesn't possess the stamina to go to AAA. He was done after 55 pitches, and barely hung on at 63 for 1 more out.

He might just be a 5 innings type starting pitcher. Like many seem to be these days. Give me five quality innings like Roby had last night. Many managers would be delighted.

I'll take a 5 inning pitcher, too....but he's not that on a consistent basis. He was coming off 2 bad outings in a row.

5 innings on 55 pitches isn't normal...that's 9 inning pace in the Majors....and He's FAR away from that on a consistent basis.

He stays in Springfield and rehabs and builds the stamina. I wish you would get that.

"I wish you would get that". Oh, I get that. But do you get that there could be circumstances where the organization feels the need to promote him? Circumstances you and I aren't privy to.

The problem with your statement is “need to promote”.

Promotions should be earned and given appropriately based on development, not to fill a hole on another minor league roster.

Would you ever suggest a “need to demote” a performing player at AAA because of a perceived need at AA?

Where did I definitely say "need to promote" as in me saying that was my personal feeling? Roby is a helluva talent whether you see it or not. There may be something he's been working on in order to advance that now is clicking.

I made it really big for you.

You are being petty. I didn't, specify that I endorse Roby being promoted. You often to that to try to slight me. No biggie.

[An Old Friend]

Not sure what the plan is for Roby this season. But he certainly didn't hurt his chances for a promotion to Memphis by his outstanding performance last night.

100% of guys returning from major shoulder injuries, that gas out at 55 pitches 2 months into the season, don't get promoted.

It was his best outing of the season...in 2 years actually. And it was against the worst team in the Texas League...the same team that Roby did well against to start the season. He's NOT getting promoted based off last night.

He gets an "atta boy" for the 11K's in 5 IP...but he doesn't possess the stamina to go to AAA. He was done after 55 pitches, and barely hung on at 63 for 1 more out.

He might just be a 5 innings type starting pitcher. Like many seem to be these days. Give me five quality innings like Roby had last night. Many managers would be delighted.

I'll take a 5 inning pitcher, too....but he's not that on a consistent basis. He was coming off 2 bad outings in a row.

5 innings on 55 pitches isn't normal...that's 9 inning pace in the Majors....and He's FAR away from that on a consistent basis.

He stays in Springfield and rehabs and builds the stamina. I wish you would get that.

"I wish you would get that". Oh, I get that. But do you get that there could be circumstances where the organization feels the need to promote him? Circumstances you and I aren't privy to.

The problem with your statement is “need to promote”.

Promotions should be earned and given appropriately based on development, not to fill a hole on another minor league roster.

Would you ever suggest a “need to demote” a performing player at AAA because of a perceived need at AA?

Where did I definitely say "need to promote" as in me saying that was my personal feeling? Roby is a helluva talent whether you see it or not. There may be something he's been working on in order to advance that now is clicking.

I made it really big for you.

You are being petty. I didn't, specify that I endorse Roby being promoted. You often to that to try to slight me. No biggie.

I think you’ve forgotten the premise of your thread.

Was it an alter ego hacking your username suggesting that Roby be in line for a promotion if his next start was a good one?

[Shady]

Not sure what the plan is for Roby this season. But he certainly didn't hurt his chances for a promotion to Memphis by his outstanding performance last night.

100% of guys returning from major shoulder injuries, that gas out at 55 pitches 2 months into the season, don't get promoted.

It was his best outing of the season...in 2 years actually. And it was against the worst team in the Texas League...the same team that Roby did well against to start the season. He's NOT getting promoted based off last night.

He gets an "atta boy" for the 11K's in 5 IP...but he doesn't possess the stamina to go to AAA. He was done after 55 pitches, and barely hung on at 63 for 1 more out.

He might just be a 5 innings type starting pitcher. Like many seem to be these days. Give me five quality innings like Roby had last night. Many managers would be delighted.

I'll take a 5 inning pitcher, too....but he's not that on a consistent basis. He was coming off 2 bad outings in a row.

5 innings on 55 pitches isn't normal...that's 9 inning pace in the Majors....and He's FAR away from that on a consistent basis.

He stays in Springfield and rehabs and builds the stamina. I wish you would get that.

"I wish you would get that". Oh, I get that. But do you get that there could be circumstances where the organization feels the need to promote him? Circumstances you and I aren't privy to.

The problem with your statement is “need to promote”.

Promotions should be earned and given appropriately based on development, not to fill a hole on another minor league roster.

Would you ever suggest a “need to demote” a performing player at AAA because of a perceived need at AA?

Where did I definitely say "need to promote" as in me saying that was my personal feeling? Roby is a helluva talent whether you see it or not. There may be something he's been working on in order to advance that now is clicking.

I made it really big for you.

You are being petty. I didn't, specify that I endorse Roby being promoted. You often to that to try to slight me. No biggie.

I think you’ve forgotten the premise of your thread.

Was it an alter ego hacking your username suggesting that Roby be in line for a promotion if his next start was a good one?

You'd give a woodpecker a headache. LOL

[NYCardsFan]

Not sure what the plan is for Roby this season. But he certainly didn't hurt his chances for a promotion to Memphis by his outstanding performance last night.

100% of guys returning from major shoulder injuries, that gas out at 55 pitches 2 months into the season, don't get promoted.

It was his best outing of the season...in 2 years actually. And it was against the worst team in the Texas League...the same team that Roby did well against to start the season. He's NOT getting promoted based off last night.

He gets an "atta boy" for the 11K's in 5 IP...but he doesn't possess the stamina to go to AAA. He was done after 55 pitches, and barely hung on at 63 for 1 more out.

He might just be a 5 innings type starting pitcher. Like many seem to be these days. Give me five quality innings like Roby had last night. Many managers would be delighted.

I'll take a 5 inning pitcher, too....but he's not that on a consistent basis. He was coming off 2 bad outings in a row.

5 innings on 55 pitches isn't normal...that's 9 inning pace in the Majors....and He's FAR away from that on a consistent basis.

He stays in Springfield and rehabs and builds the stamina. I wish you would get that.

"I wish you would get that". Oh, I get that. But do you get that there could be circumstances where the organization feels the need to promote him? Circumstances you and I aren't privy to.

The problem with your statement is “need to promote”.

Promotions should be earned and given appropriately based on development, not to fill a hole on another minor league roster.

Would you ever suggest a “need to demote” a performing player at AAA because of a perceived need at AA?

Where did I definitely say "need to promote" as in me saying that was my personal feeling? Roby is a helluva talent whether you see it or not. There may be something he's been working on in order to advance that now is clicking.

I made it really big for you.

You are being petty. I didn't, specify that I endorse Roby being promoted. You often to that to try to slight me. No biggie.

I think you’ve forgotten the premise of your thread.

Was it an alter ego hacking your username suggesting that Roby be in line for a promotion if his next start was a good one?

Everyone knows Shady has always been very cautious and measured in assessing and plotting Roby’s advancement. He’s never endorsed Roby being promoted.

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[An Old Friend]

Not sure what the plan is for Roby this season. But he certainly didn't hurt his chances for a promotion to Memphis by his outstanding performance last night.

100% of guys returning from major shoulder injuries, that gas out at 55 pitches 2 months into the season, don't get promoted.

It was his best outing of the season...in 2 years actually. And it was against the worst team in the Texas League...the same team that Roby did well against to start the season. He's NOT getting promoted based off last night.

He gets an "atta boy" for the 11K's in 5 IP...but he doesn't possess the stamina to go to AAA. He was done after 55 pitches, and barely hung on at 63 for 1 more out.

He might just be a 5 innings type starting pitcher. Like many seem to be these days. Give me five quality innings like Roby had last night. Many managers would be delighted.

I'll take a 5 inning pitcher, too....but he's not that on a consistent basis. He was coming off 2 bad outings in a row.

5 innings on 55 pitches isn't normal...that's 9 inning pace in the Majors....and He's FAR away from that on a consistent basis.

He stays in Springfield and rehabs and builds the stamina. I wish you would get that.

"I wish you would get that". Oh, I get that. But do you get that there could be circumstances where the organization feels the need to promote him? Circumstances you and I aren't privy to.

The problem with your statement is “need to promote”.

Promotions should be earned and given appropriately based on development, not to fill a hole on another minor league roster.

Would you ever suggest a “need to demote” a performing player at AAA because of a perceived need at AA?

Where did I definitely say "need to promote" as in me saying that was my personal feeling? Roby is a helluva talent whether you see it or not. There may be something he's been working on in order to advance that now is clicking.

I made it really big for you.

You are being petty. I didn't, specify that I endorse Roby being promoted. You often to that to try to slight me. No biggie.

I think you’ve forgotten the premise of your thread.

Was it an alter ego hacking your username suggesting that Roby be in line for a promotion if his next start was a good one?

You'd give a woodpecker a headache. LOL

You lack the conviction to stand behind your own position.

You are a weak person.

[Shady]

Why do I get so much attention here? I don't demand it. Some razz me about it. But they constantly contribute to it. Who cares if I'm right or wrong about Burleson, Saggese, Roby, etc.? So funny.

[Rojo Johnson]

If his next start is really good. At 23, Roby has tremendous potential as a future starting pitcher or a back end reliever.

Did you know....

Roby has 6 starts in AA and is averaging less than 4 innings per start?

Maybe we should hold off on his Red Jacket for a minute...

Losers gotta lose and Shady is one of the best.

[Shady]

If his next start is really good. At 23, Roby has tremendous potential as a future starting pitcher or a back end reliever.

Did you know....

Roby has 6 starts in AA and is averaging less than 4 innings per start?

Maybe we should hold off on his Red Jacket for a minute...

Losers gotta lose and Shady is one of the best.

What are your most shining credentials?

[ClassicO]

Teams SPs only average about 5 1/3 IP per start.
Last year the high was 5.82 by the Mariners (well ahead of #2 KC at 5.62). The low was 4.65 by the Tigers. The middle was 5.18.
This year the high is 5.81 (KC) and the low is the mighty Dodgers (4.61 - who were 21st in 2024 with 4.92).

The Cards are 5th this year at 5.5 and 8th last year at 5.44.

Summary - a pitcher that goes 5 innings isn't that unusual.

As for Roby, he's been hurt as much as healthy, so I'd hope they make him a reliever.

Per Fangraphs (pre-season):
Fastball = 50 / 50
Slider = 55 / 55
Curveball = 70 / 70
Changeup = 60 / 60
Command =30 / 40
Prospects TLDR: Roby has the stuff to be a mid-rotation starter, but whether or not he can stay healthy enough is another matter.

Here's a video of his 11K performance, which shows his stuff (the curve and esp. the change-up look great): https://www.mlb.com/video/tekoah-roby-s-11-strikeouts

[Shady]

Teams SPs only average about 5 1/3 IP per start.
Last year the high was 5.82 by the Mariners (well ahead of #2 KC at 5.62). The low was 4.65 by the Tigers. The middle was 5.18.
This year the high is 5.81 (KC) and the low is the mighty Dodgers (4.61 - who were 21st in 2024 with 4.92).

The Cards are 5th this year at 5.5 and 8th last year at 5.44.

Summary - a pitcher that goes 5 innings isn't that unusual.

As for Roby, he's been hurt as much as healthy, so I'd hope they make him a reliever.

Per Fangraphs (pre-season):
Fastball = 50 / 50
Slider = 55 / 55
Curveball = 70 / 70
Changeup = 60 / 60
Command =30 / 40
Prospects TLDR: Roby has the stuff to be a mid-rotation starter, but whether or not he can stay healthy enough is another matter.

Here's a video of his 11K performance, which shows his stuff (the curve and esp. the change-up look great): https://www.mlb.com/video/tekoah-roby-s-11-strikeouts

Great video, thanks. I know some don't like my comps. But I see some Tom Seaver in Roby.

[Absolut]

Teams SPs only average about 5 1/3 IP per start.
Last year the high was 5.82 by the Mariners (well ahead of #2 KC at 5.62). The low was 4.65 by the Tigers. The middle was 5.18.
This year the high is 5.81 (KC) and the low is the mighty Dodgers (4.61 - who were 21st in 2024 with 4.92).

The Cards are 5th this year at 5.5 and 8th last year at 5.44.

Summary - a pitcher that goes 5 innings isn't that unusual.

As for Roby, he's been hurt as much as healthy, so I'd hope they make him a reliever.

Per Fangraphs (pre-season):
Fastball = 50 / 50
Slider = 55 / 55
Curveball = 70 / 70
Changeup = 60 / 60
Command =30 / 40
Prospects TLDR: Roby has the stuff to be a mid-rotation starter, but whether or not he can stay healthy enough is another matter.

Here's a video of his 11K performance, which shows his stuff (the curve and esp. the change-up look great): https://www.mlb.com/video/tekoah-roby-s-11-strikeouts

Great video, thanks. I know some don't like my comps. But I see some Tom Seaver in Roby.

How do you see tom Seaver? Explain

[Shady]

Teams SPs only average about 5 1/3 IP per start.
Last year the high was 5.82 by the Mariners (well ahead of #2 KC at 5.62). The low was 4.65 by the Tigers. The middle was 5.18.
This year the high is 5.81 (KC) and the low is the mighty Dodgers (4.61 - who were 21st in 2024 with 4.92).

The Cards are 5th this year at 5.5 and 8th last year at 5.44.

Summary - a pitcher that goes 5 innings isn't that unusual.

As for Roby, he's been hurt as much as healthy, so I'd hope they make him a reliever.

Per Fangraphs (pre-season):
Fastball = 50 / 50
Slider = 55 / 55
Curveball = 70 / 70
Changeup = 60 / 60
Command =30 / 40
Prospects TLDR: Roby has the stuff to be a mid-rotation starter, but whether or not he can stay healthy enough is another matter.

Here's a video of his 11K performance, which shows his stuff (the curve and esp. the change-up look great): https://www.mlb.com/video/tekoah-roby-s-11-strikeouts

Great video, thanks. I know some don't like my comps. But I see some Tom Seaver in Roby.

How do you see tom Seaver? Explain

By his delivery, his stride. Watch some Tom Seaver on YouTube. You'll see the resemblance. Maybe not. Just my opinion.