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Re: How To Kill a Troll

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desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 12:59 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 12:52 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 12:44 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 10:39 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 10:02 am
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 09:25 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:40 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:16 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 06:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:15 pm
Cranny wrote: 09 May 2025 20:56 pm I guess if a poster enjoys a 6 game win streak they’re a boot licking homer?
If they enjoy it? No.
If they think it excuses everything that’s happened the past few years? Yes.
What is the point of dwelling on the past few years? Why not experience a little unbridled joy as we watch serious young talent achieve mass and show promise for the future.

Not having expressed anger over some discouraging things that have happened doesn’t make one a boot licker all by itself. Taking problems with a grain of salt makes it easy for me to enjoy the positives popping up more openly.

I never thought things were as bad as some insisted. Still, I’m sure it was helpful for the discouraged to vent.
If a last-place finish and one playoff series win since 2015 “isn’t as bad as some insisted,” I have no idea what we’re talking about here.
Ignore a recent NL Central division crown

Spillborg on last night's broadcast said it best...he wished his favorite team has been as successful as the Cards have been
One division crown (and a sweep following that crown).

Lots to be proud of for the Yankees of the National League.

And that crown was over 2 years ago and gloating about it is much akin to a geek at the lunch table bragging to their geek friends about how they saw a boob, leaving out that it was their moms boob(or in this case, the NL central). Basically the only teams “jealous” of the Cardinals these days are the ones that most laugh at.

Comical how far the standards have dropped
Remember when we used to brag about winning pennants? Now you’re a troll if you don’t lose your mind over finishing just over .500 or go crazy over sweeping last-place teams.
That's just defensive talk. In '22 we won enough games to play at home to the Phillies who went to the WS. We had the MVP and #3 MVP on our team. We lost both playoff games to the Phillies in the 9th inning. One by a blown save. If you are ashamed of that then you have to be a glass half full kinda guy. Sorry that's how you see life.
We used to make fun of fanbases that got excited about that kind of success. Some of us still have standards. If you don’t that’s fine — plenty of Little Leagues out there.
Nobody lives with wins and losses for their team more than I have. I marvel at your standards as if you have anything to do with actual wins/losses or WS championships. Where were you in the 70's and 90's. Without the Internet you probably just annoyed the people around you. Grow up. It's baseball. There is no crying.
Ah yes, “remember the 70s and 90s.” That’s on the apologists’ Top 10 list for sure.

If nobody lives with wins and losses for their team more than you do, why do you seem so satisfied with recent performance?
70's and 90's were just a fact. Nothing anybody could do about it. It just belies any argument that the Cardinals always had one standard. That's just hogwash.

Cardinals losing didn't make me satisfied. I merely looked forward to when they would right the ship. No crying in baseball...unless you are a blubberhead. :mrgreen:
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Re: How To Kill a Troll

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hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 13:14 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 12:59 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 12:52 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 12:44 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 10:39 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 10:02 am
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 09:25 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:40 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:16 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 06:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:15 pm

If they enjoy it? No.
If they think it excuses everything that’s happened the past few years? Yes.
What is the point of dwelling on the past few years? Why not experience a little unbridled joy as we watch serious young talent achieve mass and show promise for the future.

Not having expressed anger over some discouraging things that have happened doesn’t make one a boot licker all by itself. Taking problems with a grain of salt makes it easy for me to enjoy the positives popping up more openly.

I never thought things were as bad as some insisted. Still, I’m sure it was helpful for the discouraged to vent.
If a last-place finish and one playoff series win since 2015 “isn’t as bad as some insisted,” I have no idea what we’re talking about here.
Ignore a recent NL Central division crown

Spillborg on last night's broadcast said it best...he wished his favorite team has been as successful as the Cards have been
One division crown (and a sweep following that crown).

Lots to be proud of for the Yankees of the National League.

And that crown was over 2 years ago and gloating about it is much akin to a geek at the lunch table bragging to their geek friends about how they saw a boob, leaving out that it was their moms boob(or in this case, the NL central). Basically the only teams “jealous” of the Cardinals these days are the ones that most laugh at.

Comical how far the standards have dropped
Remember when we used to brag about winning pennants? Now you’re a troll if you don’t lose your mind over finishing just over .500 or go crazy over sweeping last-place teams.
That's just defensive talk. In '22 we won enough games to play at home to the Phillies who went to the WS. We had the MVP and #3 MVP on our team. We lost both playoff games to the Phillies in the 9th inning. One by a blown save. If you are ashamed of that then you have to be a glass half full kinda guy. Sorry that's how you see life.
We used to make fun of fanbases that got excited about that kind of success. Some of us still have standards. If you don’t that’s fine — plenty of Little Leagues out there.
Nobody lives with wins and losses for their team more than I have. I marvel at your standards as if you have anything to do with actual wins/losses or WS championships. Where were you in the 70's and 90's. Without the Internet you probably just annoyed the people around you. Grow up. It's baseball. There is no crying.
Ah yes, “remember the 70s and 90s.” That’s on the apologists’ Top 10 list for sure.

If nobody lives with wins and losses for their team more than you do, why do you seem so satisfied with recent performance?
70's and 90's were just a fact. Nothing anybody could do about it. It just belies any argument that the Cardinals always had one standard. That's just hogwash.

Cardinals losing didn't make me satisfied. I merely looked forward to when they would right the ship. No crying in baseball...unless you are a blubberhead. :mrgreen:
Fair enough — I just don’t get the “we’ve sucked before, so it’s OK that we suck now” argument.
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Re: How To Kill a Troll

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desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 13:19 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 13:14 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 12:59 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 12:52 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 12:44 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 10:39 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 10:02 am
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 09:25 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:40 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:16 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 06:31 am

What is the point of dwelling on the past few years? Why not experience a little unbridled joy as we watch serious young talent achieve mass and show promise for the future.

Not having expressed anger over some discouraging things that have happened doesn’t make one a boot licker all by itself. Taking problems with a grain of salt makes it easy for me to enjoy the positives popping up more openly.

I never thought things were as bad as some insisted. Still, I’m sure it was helpful for the discouraged to vent.
If a last-place finish and one playoff series win since 2015 “isn’t as bad as some insisted,” I have no idea what we’re talking about here.
Ignore a recent NL Central division crown

Spillborg on last night's broadcast said it best...he wished his favorite team has been as successful as the Cards have been
One division crown (and a sweep following that crown).

Lots to be proud of for the Yankees of the National League.

And that crown was over 2 years ago and gloating about it is much akin to a geek at the lunch table bragging to their geek friends about how they saw a boob, leaving out that it was their moms boob(or in this case, the NL central). Basically the only teams “jealous” of the Cardinals these days are the ones that most laugh at.

Comical how far the standards have dropped
Remember when we used to brag about winning pennants? Now you’re a troll if you don’t lose your mind over finishing just over .500 or go crazy over sweeping last-place teams.
That's just defensive talk. In '22 we won enough games to play at home to the Phillies who went to the WS. We had the MVP and #3 MVP on our team. We lost both playoff games to the Phillies in the 9th inning. One by a blown save. If you are ashamed of that then you have to be a glass half full kinda guy. Sorry that's how you see life.
We used to make fun of fanbases that got excited about that kind of success. Some of us still have standards. If you don’t that’s fine — plenty of Little Leagues out there.
Nobody lives with wins and losses for their team more than I have. I marvel at your standards as if you have anything to do with actual wins/losses or WS championships. Where were you in the 70's and 90's. Without the Internet you probably just annoyed the people around you. Grow up. It's baseball. There is no crying.
Ah yes, “remember the 70s and 90s.” That’s on the apologists’ Top 10 list for sure.

If nobody lives with wins and losses for their team more than you do, why do you seem so satisfied with recent performance?
70's and 90's were just a fact. Nothing anybody could do about it. It just belies any argument that the Cardinals always had one standard. That's just hogwash.

Cardinals losing didn't make me satisfied. I merely looked forward to when they would right the ship. No crying in baseball...unless you are a blubberhead. :mrgreen:
Fair enough — I just don’t get the “we’ve sucked before, so it’s OK that we suck now” argument.
No problem. I don't get the "we suck now so everybody be miserable, and I'll tell you when you can be happy again."
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Re: How To Kill a Troll

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hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 12:45 pm
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 12:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 10:39 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 10:02 am
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 09:25 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:40 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:16 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 06:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:15 pm
Cranny wrote: 09 May 2025 20:56 pm I guess if a poster enjoys a 6 game win streak they’re a boot licking homer?
If they enjoy it? No.
If they think it excuses everything that’s happened the past few years? Yes.
What is the point of dwelling on the past few years? Why not experience a little unbridled joy as we watch serious young talent achieve mass and show promise for the future.

Not having expressed anger over some discouraging things that have happened doesn’t make one a boot licker all by itself. Taking problems with a grain of salt makes it easy for me to enjoy the positives popping up more openly.

I never thought things were as bad as some insisted. Still, I’m sure it was helpful for the discouraged to vent.
If a last-place finish and one playoff series win since 2015 “isn’t as bad as some insisted,” I have no idea what we’re talking about here.
Ignore a recent NL Central division crown

Spillborg on last night's broadcast said it best...he wished his favorite team has been as successful as the Cards have been
One division crown (and a sweep following that crown).

Lots to be proud of for the Yankees of the National League.

And that crown was over 2 years ago and gloating about it is much akin to a geek at the lunch table bragging to their geek friends about how they saw a boob, leaving out that it was their moms boob(or in this case, the NL central). Basically the only teams “jealous” of the Cardinals these days are the ones that most laugh at.

Comical how far the standards have dropped
Remember when we used to brag about winning pennants? Now you’re a troll if you don’t lose your mind over finishing just over .500 or go crazy over sweeping last-place teams.
That's just defensive talk. In '22 we won enough games to play at home to the Phillies who went to the WS. We had the MVP and #3 MVP on our team. We lost both playoff games to the Phillies in the 9th inning. One by a blown save. If you are ashamed of that then you have to be a glass half full kinda guy. Sorry that's how you see life.
It’s not that people are “ashamed” of it. It’s that the standard used to be a lot higher and that those season enders would be more of a disappointment rather than something that is still hyped up about 2 years later as some kind of magical run.


If you want to cream your pants over quick playoff exits good on you

If you wanna attempt to gaslight people into buying into your kinks also…..good on you

Just don’t get so mad when people still have the same standard for this team that was instilled in the TLR/Walt days before Mo came along and brainwashed many into believing that finishing above.500 is no different than winning a World Series……maybe even 2
Nice childish rant. The team won 17 games in a row in '21 and made the playoffs successive years. They failed to perform in the playoffs. No grounds for creaming in one's pants as you so annoyingly put it. We were good enough to beat a lot of teams just, not, to win in the playoffs. You would be in the gaslighting department, not me, trying to make this out to be failure because it didn't meet your standards. I watched the Cardinals in the 50's, 70's and 90's. I know disappointment and I didn't need to cry in my beer. It's major league baseball; sometimes other teams are better. Sometimes the postseason hits you with injuries and you aren't 100%.

You don't know what a standard is. You win it all or you cry in your hanky. Then you waste people's time on CT. If you are miserable everybody else needs to be as well. Sorry. Doesn't work that way.

“We were good enough to win games until it came to winning against good teams”

Could have just said that but I guess that would have put a hamper on the dynasty parade….


Go ahead and let Mo tell you how you’re supposed to be a fan and then get on here and try and tell all of us how we’re supposed to be fans. It’s no skin off my a**. You can pout, pee your pants, or throw as many tantrums and disguise is as “Lord Optimism” all you want. You won’t change the higher standards that fans have on this team that, while we’re talking about it, weren’t even just established by the fans. They were once established standards I reiterate from the TLR/Walt era that were slowly torn away from an egotistical bow tie dork.

So again, cream yourself to above .500 records all you want. Not everyone else will. The Cardinal fanbase aren’t the only ones with higher expectations nor are the only ones that speak up when they aren’t being met.

You can enjoy your empty seats, sticky whitey tighties, and self righteous attitude. And maybe stop letting us “miserable” people ruin all that for you…….
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Re: How To Kill a Troll

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Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 14:01 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 12:45 pm
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 12:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 10:39 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 10:02 am
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 09:25 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:40 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:16 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 06:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:15 pm
Cranny wrote: 09 May 2025 20:56 pm I guess if a poster enjoys a 6 game win streak they’re a boot licking homer?
If they enjoy it? No.
If they think it excuses everything that’s happened the past few years? Yes.
What is the point of dwelling on the past few years? Why not experience a little unbridled joy as we watch serious young talent achieve mass and show promise for the future.

Not having expressed anger over some discouraging things that have happened doesn’t make one a boot licker all by itself. Taking problems with a grain of salt makes it easy for me to enjoy the positives popping up more openly.

I never thought things were as bad as some insisted. Still, I’m sure it was helpful for the discouraged to vent.
If a last-place finish and one playoff series win since 2015 “isn’t as bad as some insisted,” I have no idea what we’re talking about here.
Ignore a recent NL Central division crown

Spillborg on last night's broadcast said it best...he wished his favorite team has been as successful as the Cards have been
One division crown (and a sweep following that crown).

Lots to be proud of for the Yankees of the National League.

And that crown was over 2 years ago and gloating about it is much akin to a geek at the lunch table bragging to their geek friends about how they saw a boob, leaving out that it was their moms boob(or in this case, the NL central). Basically the only teams “jealous” of the Cardinals these days are the ones that most laugh at.

Comical how far the standards have dropped
Remember when we used to brag about winning pennants? Now you’re a troll if you don’t lose your mind over finishing just over .500 or go crazy over sweeping last-place teams.
That's just defensive talk. In '22 we won enough games to play at home to the Phillies who went to the WS. We had the MVP and #3 MVP on our team. We lost both playoff games to the Phillies in the 9th inning. One by a blown save. If you are ashamed of that then you have to be a glass half full kinda guy. Sorry that's how you see life.
It’s not that people are “ashamed” of it. It’s that the standard used to be a lot higher and that those season enders would be more of a disappointment rather than something that is still hyped up about 2 years later as some kind of magical run.


If you want to cream your pants over quick playoff exits good on you

If you wanna attempt to gaslight people into buying into your kinks also…..good on you

Just don’t get so mad when people still have the same standard for this team that was instilled in the TLR/Walt days before Mo came along and brainwashed many into believing that finishing above.500 is no different than winning a World Series……maybe even 2
Nice childish rant. The team won 17 games in a row in '21 and made the playoffs successive years. They failed to perform in the playoffs. No grounds for creaming in one's pants as you so annoyingly put it. We were good enough to beat a lot of teams just, not, to win in the playoffs. You would be in the gaslighting department, not me, trying to make this out to be failure because it didn't meet your standards. I watched the Cardinals in the 50's, 70's and 90's. I know disappointment and I didn't need to cry in my beer. It's major league baseball; sometimes other teams are better. Sometimes the postseason hits you with injuries and you aren't 100%.

You don't know what a standard is. You win it all or you cry in your hanky. Then you waste people's time on CT. If you are miserable everybody else needs to be as well. Sorry. Doesn't work that way.

“We were good enough to win games until it came to winning against good teams”

Could have just said that but I guess that would have put a hamper on the dynasty parade….


Go ahead and let Mo tell you how you’re supposed to be a fan and then get on here and try and tell all of us how we’re supposed to be fans. It’s no skin off my a**. You can pout, pee your pants, or throw as many tantrums and disguise is as “Lord Optimism” all you want. You won’t change the higher standards that fans have on this team that, while we’re talking about it, weren’t even just established by the fans. They were once established standards I reiterate from the TLR/Walt era that were slowly torn away from an egotistical bow tie dork.

So again, cream yourself to above .500 records all you want. Not everyone else will. The Cardinal fanbase aren’t the only ones with higher expectations nor are the only ones that speak up when they aren’t being met.

You can enjoy your empty seats, sticky whitey tighties, and self righteous attitude. And maybe stop letting us “miserable” people ruin all that for you…….
Oh, you poor thing.
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Anybody who doesn't think we're any good right now is full of mierda.
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Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 14:01 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 12:45 pm
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 12:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 10:39 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 10:02 am
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 09:25 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:40 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:16 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 06:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:15 pm
Cranny wrote: 09 May 2025 20:56 pm I guess if a poster enjoys a 6 game win streak they’re a boot licking homer?
If they enjoy it? No.
If they think it excuses everything that’s happened the past few years? Yes.
What is the point of dwelling on the past few years? Why not experience a little unbridled joy as we watch serious young talent achieve mass and show promise for the future.

Not having expressed anger over some discouraging things that have happened doesn’t make one a boot licker all by itself. Taking problems with a grain of salt makes it easy for me to enjoy the positives popping up more openly.

I never thought things were as bad as some insisted. Still, I’m sure it was helpful for the discouraged to vent.
If a last-place finish and one playoff series win since 2015 “isn’t as bad as some insisted,” I have no idea what we’re talking about here.
Ignore a recent NL Central division crown

Spillborg on last night's broadcast said it best...he wished his favorite team has been as successful as the Cards have been
One division crown (and a sweep following that crown).

Lots to be proud of for the Yankees of the National League.

And that crown was over 2 years ago and gloating about it is much akin to a geek at the lunch table bragging to their geek friends about how they saw a boob, leaving out that it was their moms boob(or in this case, the NL central). Basically the only teams “jealous” of the Cardinals these days are the ones that most laugh at.

Comical how far the standards have dropped
Remember when we used to brag about winning pennants? Now you’re a troll if you don’t lose your mind over finishing just over .500 or go crazy over sweeping last-place teams.
That's just defensive talk. In '22 we won enough games to play at home to the Phillies who went to the WS. We had the MVP and #3 MVP on our team. We lost both playoff games to the Phillies in the 9th inning. One by a blown save. If you are ashamed of that then you have to be a glass half full kinda guy. Sorry that's how you see life.
It’s not that people are “ashamed” of it. It’s that the standard used to be a lot higher and that those season enders would be more of a disappointment rather than something that is still hyped up about 2 years later as some kind of magical run.


If you want to cream your pants over quick playoff exits good on you

If you wanna attempt to gaslight people into buying into your kinks also…..good on you

Just don’t get so mad when people still have the same standard for this team that was instilled in the TLR/Walt days before Mo came along and brainwashed many into believing that finishing above.500 is no different than winning a World Series……maybe even 2
Nice childish rant. The team won 17 games in a row in '21 and made the playoffs successive years. They failed to perform in the playoffs. No grounds for creaming in one's pants as you so annoyingly put it. We were good enough to beat a lot of teams just, not, to win in the playoffs. You would be in the gaslighting department, not me, trying to make this out to be failure because it didn't meet your standards. I watched the Cardinals in the 50's, 70's and 90's. I know disappointment and I didn't need to cry in my beer. It's major league baseball; sometimes other teams are better. Sometimes the postseason hits you with injuries and you aren't 100%.

You don't know what a standard is. You win it all or you cry in your hanky. Then you waste people's time on CT. If you are miserable everybody else needs to be as well. Sorry. Doesn't work that way.

“We were good enough to win games until it came to winning against good teams”

Could have just said that but I guess that would have put a hamper on the dynasty parade….


Go ahead and let Mo tell you how you’re supposed to be a fan and then get on here and try and tell all of us how we’re supposed to be fans. It’s no skin off my a**. You can pout, pee your pants, or throw as many tantrums and disguise is as “Lord Optimism” all you want. You won’t change the higher standards that fans have on this team that, while we’re talking about it, weren’t even just established by the fans. They were once established standards I reiterate from the TLR/Walt era that were slowly torn away from an egotistical bow tie dork.

So again, cream yourself to above .500 records all you want. Not everyone else will. The Cardinal fanbase aren’t the only ones with higher expectations nor are the only ones that speak up when they aren’t being met.

You can enjoy your empty seats, sticky whitey tighties, and self righteous attitude. And maybe stop letting us “miserable” people ruin all that for you…….
Frankly, I don’t know if only one person gets credit for this year’s success or many; nor do I care. I’m watching a good team win and enjoying the hell out of it. You sit in denial while the wins pile up. Feeling sorry for you. I figure we’ll get to 70 wins by August.

But you can shake your personal losing streak off any time you want and start actually rooting for “your” team. Or not.
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Re: How To Kill a Troll

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hugeCardfan wrote: 16 May 2025 23:02 pm
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 14:01 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 12:45 pm
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 12:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 10:39 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 10:02 am
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 09:25 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:40 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:16 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 06:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:15 pm

If they enjoy it? No.
If they think it excuses everything that’s happened the past few years? Yes.
What is the point of dwelling on the past few years? Why not experience a little unbridled joy as we watch serious young talent achieve mass and show promise for the future.

Not having expressed anger over some discouraging things that have happened doesn’t make one a boot licker all by itself. Taking problems with a grain of salt makes it easy for me to enjoy the positives popping up more openly.

I never thought things were as bad as some insisted. Still, I’m sure it was helpful for the discouraged to vent.
If a last-place finish and one playoff series win since 2015 “isn’t as bad as some insisted,” I have no idea what we’re talking about here.
Ignore a recent NL Central division crown

Spillborg on last night's broadcast said it best...he wished his favorite team has been as successful as the Cards have been
One division crown (and a sweep following that crown).

Lots to be proud of for the Yankees of the National League.

And that crown was over 2 years ago and gloating about it is much akin to a geek at the lunch table bragging to their geek friends about how they saw a boob, leaving out that it was their moms boob(or in this case, the NL central). Basically the only teams “jealous” of the Cardinals these days are the ones that most laugh at.

Comical how far the standards have dropped
Remember when we used to brag about winning pennants? Now you’re a troll if you don’t lose your mind over finishing just over .500 or go crazy over sweeping last-place teams.
That's just defensive talk. In '22 we won enough games to play at home to the Phillies who went to the WS. We had the MVP and #3 MVP on our team. We lost both playoff games to the Phillies in the 9th inning. One by a blown save. If you are ashamed of that then you have to be a glass half full kinda guy. Sorry that's how you see life.
It’s not that people are “ashamed” of it. It’s that the standard used to be a lot higher and that those season enders would be more of a disappointment rather than something that is still hyped up about 2 years later as some kind of magical run.


If you want to cream your pants over quick playoff exits good on you

If you wanna attempt to gaslight people into buying into your kinks also…..good on you

Just don’t get so mad when people still have the same standard for this team that was instilled in the TLR/Walt days before Mo came along and brainwashed many into believing that finishing above.500 is no different than winning a World Series……maybe even 2
Nice childish rant. The team won 17 games in a row in '21 and made the playoffs successive years. They failed to perform in the playoffs. No grounds for creaming in one's pants as you so annoyingly put it. We were good enough to beat a lot of teams just, not, to win in the playoffs. You would be in the gaslighting department, not me, trying to make this out to be failure because it didn't meet your standards. I watched the Cardinals in the 50's, 70's and 90's. I know disappointment and I didn't need to cry in my beer. It's major league baseball; sometimes other teams are better. Sometimes the postseason hits you with injuries and you aren't 100%.

You don't know what a standard is. You win it all or you cry in your hanky. Then you waste people's time on CT. If you are miserable everybody else needs to be as well. Sorry. Doesn't work that way.

“We were good enough to win games until it came to winning against good teams”

Could have just said that but I guess that would have put a hamper on the dynasty parade….


Go ahead and let Mo tell you how you’re supposed to be a fan and then get on here and try and tell all of us how we’re supposed to be fans. It’s no skin off my a**. You can pout, pee your pants, or throw as many tantrums and disguise is as “Lord Optimism” all you want. You won’t change the higher standards that fans have on this team that, while we’re talking about it, weren’t even just established by the fans. They were once established standards I reiterate from the TLR/Walt era that were slowly torn away from an egotistical bow tie dork.

So again, cream yourself to above .500 records all you want. Not everyone else will. The Cardinal fanbase aren’t the only ones with higher expectations nor are the only ones that speak up when they aren’t being met.

You can enjoy your empty seats, sticky whitey tighties, and self righteous attitude. And maybe stop letting us “miserable” people ruin all that for you…….
Frankly, I don’t know if only one person gets credit for this year’s success or many; nor do I care. I’m watching a good team win and enjoying the hell out of it. You sit in denial while the wins pile up. Feeling sorry for you. I figure we’ll get to 70 wins by August.

But you can shake your personal losing streak off any time you want and start actually rooting for “your” team. Or not.

I always root for “my team” wishing your favorite team to fail is like wishing the president you didn’t vote for to fail. It only affects you negatively unless you have some sick kink for pain and misery.

You don’t have the ability to separate wanting your team to win and acknowledging when they are garbage/complacent/incompetent/etc etc. And that’s ok, not everyone can walk and chew gum at the same time but I’m sure your family still loves you anyway.

I enjoy wins and I eat crow. And if they are still playing this well by August you can pull this thread back up and make me publicly do so.

Do I expect that it will happen? No. Do I want it to happen? Absolutely. Does me thinking it won’t happen mean I don’t root for my team or that I’m just miserable? Absolutely not. I apologize if that hurts to read, as I very much expect it does.

Just something for you and Cranny to take to your therapists, it will get better…..
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Re: How To Kill a Troll

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Banner29 wrote: 17 May 2025 10:36 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 May 2025 23:02 pm
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 14:01 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 12:45 pm
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 12:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 10:39 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 10:02 am
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 09:25 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:40 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:16 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 06:31 am

What is the point of dwelling on the past few years? Why not experience a little unbridled joy as we watch serious young talent achieve mass and show promise for the future.

Not having expressed anger over some discouraging things that have happened doesn’t make one a boot licker all by itself. Taking problems with a grain of salt makes it easy for me to enjoy the positives popping up more openly.

I never thought things were as bad as some insisted. Still, I’m sure it was helpful for the discouraged to vent.
If a last-place finish and one playoff series win since 2015 “isn’t as bad as some insisted,” I have no idea what we’re talking about here.
Ignore a recent NL Central division crown

Spillborg on last night's broadcast said it best...he wished his favorite team has been as successful as the Cards have been
One division crown (and a sweep following that crown).

Lots to be proud of for the Yankees of the National League.

And that crown was over 2 years ago and gloating about it is much akin to a geek at the lunch table bragging to their geek friends about how they saw a boob, leaving out that it was their moms boob(or in this case, the NL central). Basically the only teams “jealous” of the Cardinals these days are the ones that most laugh at.

Comical how far the standards have dropped
Remember when we used to brag about winning pennants? Now you’re a troll if you don’t lose your mind over finishing just over .500 or go crazy over sweeping last-place teams.
That's just defensive talk. In '22 we won enough games to play at home to the Phillies who went to the WS. We had the MVP and #3 MVP on our team. We lost both playoff games to the Phillies in the 9th inning. One by a blown save. If you are ashamed of that then you have to be a glass half full kinda guy. Sorry that's how you see life.
It’s not that people are “ashamed” of it. It’s that the standard used to be a lot higher and that those season enders would be more of a disappointment rather than something that is still hyped up about 2 years later as some kind of magical run.


If you want to cream your pants over quick playoff exits good on you

If you wanna attempt to gaslight people into buying into your kinks also…..good on you

Just don’t get so mad when people still have the same standard for this team that was instilled in the TLR/Walt days before Mo came along and brainwashed many into believing that finishing above.500 is no different than winning a World Series……maybe even 2
Nice childish rant. The team won 17 games in a row in '21 and made the playoffs successive years. They failed to perform in the playoffs. No grounds for creaming in one's pants as you so annoyingly put it. We were good enough to beat a lot of teams just, not, to win in the playoffs. You would be in the gaslighting department, not me, trying to make this out to be failure because it didn't meet your standards. I watched the Cardinals in the 50's, 70's and 90's. I know disappointment and I didn't need to cry in my beer. It's major league baseball; sometimes other teams are better. Sometimes the postseason hits you with injuries and you aren't 100%.

You don't know what a standard is. You win it all or you cry in your hanky. Then you waste people's time on CT. If you are miserable everybody else needs to be as well. Sorry. Doesn't work that way.

“We were good enough to win games until it came to winning against good teams”

Could have just said that but I guess that would have put a hamper on the dynasty parade….


Go ahead and let Mo tell you how you’re supposed to be a fan and then get on here and try and tell all of us how we’re supposed to be fans. It’s no skin off my a**. You can pout, pee your pants, or throw as many tantrums and disguise is as “Lord Optimism” all you want. You won’t change the higher standards that fans have on this team that, while we’re talking about it, weren’t even just established by the fans. They were once established standards I reiterate from the TLR/Walt era that were slowly torn away from an egotistical bow tie dork.

So again, cream yourself to above .500 records all you want. Not everyone else will. The Cardinal fanbase aren’t the only ones with higher expectations nor are the only ones that speak up when they aren’t being met.

You can enjoy your empty seats, sticky whitey tighties, and self righteous attitude. And maybe stop letting us “miserable” people ruin all that for you…….
Frankly, I don’t know if only one person gets credit for this year’s success or many; nor do I care. I’m watching a good team win and enjoying the hell out of it. You sit in denial while the wins pile up. Feeling sorry for you. I figure we’ll get to 70 wins by August.

But you can shake your personal losing streak off any time you want and start actually rooting for “your” team. Or not.

I always root for “my team” wishing your favorite team to fail is like wishing the president you didn’t vote for to fail. It only affects you negatively unless you have some sick kink for pain and misery.
You don’t have the ability to separate wanting your team to win and acknowledging when they are garbage/complacent/incompetent/etc etc. And that’s ok, not everyone can walk and chew gum at the same time but I’m sure your family still loves you anyway.
The only garbage I see out here is the manner "fans" like you describe this team. You don't recognize talent when you see it and you spent many hours on CT disabusing those constructive on the team. As I have said on several threads, "we have a lot to build on and I like the team going forward". What's not to like? We have solid starters, we have fixed the bullpen significantly and we hit and score lots of runs. We also have one of the best defenses in baseball. You are quoted on here saying we can't beat good teams and yet we just won 2 of 3 vs Mets in St Louis, we beat the Phillies 2 of 3 in Philly, and steamrolled Washington in Washington which no other team has yet done at home or away. We just beat up on a surging KC last night guaranteeing a resounding road trip. Everybody knows that you will lose some games to good teams. Sooner or later you'll figure out that this team is not garbage and they might well be in this thing.
"I enjoy wins and I eat crow. And if they are still playing this well by August you can pull this thread back up and make me publicly do so."


Be happy to. But, frankly, you don't have enough credibility with me to encourage you to eat crow. You'd have to recognize just how good some of these players are to earn cred.
Do I expect that it will happen? No. Do I want it to happen? Absolutely. Does me thinking it won’t happen mean I don’t root for my team or that I’m just miserable? Absolutely not. I apologize if that hurts to read, as I very much expect it does.
Try to convince yourself how you are feeling about the team's resurgence. Not buying it. You're just sitting there licking your wounds and lashing out at anybody enjoying the moment.
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Re: How To Kill a Troll

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hugeCardfan wrote: 17 May 2025 11:14 am
Banner29 wrote: 17 May 2025 10:36 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 May 2025 23:02 pm
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 14:01 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 12:45 pm
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 12:10 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 May 2025 10:39 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 10:02 am
Banner29 wrote: 10 May 2025 09:25 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:40 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:31 am
desertrat23 wrote: 10 May 2025 08:16 am

If a last-place finish and one playoff series win since 2015 “isn’t as bad as some insisted,” I have no idea what we’re talking about here.
Ignore a recent NL Central division crown

Spillborg on last night's broadcast said it best...he wished his favorite team has been as successful as the Cards have been
One division crown (and a sweep following that crown).

Lots to be proud of for the Yankees of the National League.

And that crown was over 2 years ago and gloating about it is much akin to a geek at the lunch table bragging to their geek friends about how they saw a boob, leaving out that it was their moms boob(or in this case, the NL central). Basically the only teams “jealous” of the Cardinals these days are the ones that most laugh at.

Comical how far the standards have dropped
Remember when we used to brag about winning pennants? Now you’re a troll if you don’t lose your mind over finishing just over .500 or go crazy over sweeping last-place teams.
That's just defensive talk. In '22 we won enough games to play at home to the Phillies who went to the WS. We had the MVP and #3 MVP on our team. We lost both playoff games to the Phillies in the 9th inning. One by a blown save. If you are ashamed of that then you have to be a glass half full kinda guy. Sorry that's how you see life.
It’s not that people are “ashamed” of it. It’s that the standard used to be a lot higher and that those season enders would be more of a disappointment rather than something that is still hyped up about 2 years later as some kind of magical run.


If you want to cream your pants over quick playoff exits good on you

If you wanna attempt to gaslight people into buying into your kinks also…..good on you

Just don’t get so mad when people still have the same standard for this team that was instilled in the TLR/Walt days before Mo came along and brainwashed many into believing that finishing above.500 is no different than winning a World Series……maybe even 2
Nice childish rant. The team won 17 games in a row in '21 and made the playoffs successive years. They failed to perform in the playoffs. No grounds for creaming in one's pants as you so annoyingly put it. We were good enough to beat a lot of teams just, not, to win in the playoffs. You would be in the gaslighting department, not me, trying to make this out to be failure because it didn't meet your standards. I watched the Cardinals in the 50's, 70's and 90's. I know disappointment and I didn't need to cry in my beer. It's major league baseball; sometimes other teams are better. Sometimes the postseason hits you with injuries and you aren't 100%.

You don't know what a standard is. You win it all or you cry in your hanky. Then you waste people's time on CT. If you are miserable everybody else needs to be as well. Sorry. Doesn't work that way.

“We were good enough to win games until it came to winning against good teams”

Could have just said that but I guess that would have put a hamper on the dynasty parade….


Go ahead and let Mo tell you how you’re supposed to be a fan and then get on here and try and tell all of us how we’re supposed to be fans. It’s no skin off my a**. You can pout, pee your pants, or throw as many tantrums and disguise is as “Lord Optimism” all you want. You won’t change the higher standards that fans have on this team that, while we’re talking about it, weren’t even just established by the fans. They were once established standards I reiterate from the TLR/Walt era that were slowly torn away from an egotistical bow tie dork.

So again, cream yourself to above .500 records all you want. Not everyone else will. The Cardinal fanbase aren’t the only ones with higher expectations nor are the only ones that speak up when they aren’t being met.

You can enjoy your empty seats, sticky whitey tighties, and self righteous attitude. And maybe stop letting us “miserable” people ruin all that for you…….
Frankly, I don’t know if only one person gets credit for this year’s success or many; nor do I care. I’m watching a good team win and enjoying the hell out of it. You sit in denial while the wins pile up. Feeling sorry for you. I figure we’ll get to 70 wins by August.

But you can shake your personal losing streak off any time you want and start actually rooting for “your” team. Or not.

I always root for “my team” wishing your favorite team to fail is like wishing the president you didn’t vote for to fail. It only affects you negatively unless you have some sick kink for pain and misery.
You don’t have the ability to separate wanting your team to win and acknowledging when they are garbage/complacent/incompetent/etc etc. And that’s ok, not everyone can walk and chew gum at the same time but I’m sure your family still loves you anyway.
The only garbage I see out here is the manner "fans" like you describe this team. You don't recognize talent when you see it and you spent many hours on CT disabusing those constructive on the team. As I have said on several threads, "we have a lot to build on and I like the team going forward". What's not to like? We have solid starters, we have fixed the bullpen significantly and we hit and score lots of runs. We also have one of the best defenses in baseball. You are quoted on here saying we can't beat good teams and yet we just won 2 of 3 vs Mets in St Louis, we beat the Phillies 2 of 3 in Philly, and steamrolled Washington in Washington which no other team has yet done at home or away. We just beat up on a surging KC last night guaranteeing a resounding road trip. Everybody knows that you will lose some games to good teams. Sooner or later you'll figure out that this team is not garbage and they might well be in this thing.
"I enjoy wins and I eat crow. And if they are still playing this well by August you can pull this thread back up and make me publicly do so."


Be happy to. But, frankly, you don't have enough credibility with me to encourage you to eat crow. You'd have to recognize just how good some of these players are to earn cred.
Do I expect that it will happen? No. Do I want it to happen? Absolutely. Does me thinking it won’t happen mean I don’t root for my team or that I’m just miserable? Absolutely not. I apologize if that hurts to read, as I very much expect it does.
Try to convince yourself how you are feeling about the team's resurgence. Not buying it. You're just sitting there licking your wounds and lashing out at anybody enjoying the moment.

I don’t care if you buy it or not. You’re free to feel whatever you want to feel to fight back the tears.


I’ve acknowledged several good aspects of this team on other threads. Even mentioned not too long ago how this team is not that far off from being a legitimate contender. You ignore it and that’s ok. I don’t need the validation of a 78 year old man on an Internet forum that creams his pants over 500 records. If I did, life is going seriously wrong for me. But life is good for me even if the Cardinals lose and huge fan thinks I’m a big mean jerk.


So kind of pointless for you to pull the self righteous act on me, old man
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Banner29 wrote: 17 May 2025 11:40 am

I don’t care if you buy it or not. You’re free to feel whatever you want to feel to fight back the tears.


I’ve acknowledged several good aspects of this team on other threads. Even mentioned not too long ago how this team is not that far off from being a legitimate contender. You ignore it and that’s ok. I don’t need the validation of a 78 year old man on an Internet forum that creams his pants over 500 records. If I did, life is going seriously wrong for me. But life is good for me even if the Cardinals lose and huge fan thinks I’m a big mean jerk.


So kind of pointless for you to pull the self righteous act on me, old man
Why would I want to fight back tears of joy to watch little chits like you squirm. I never predicted win loss for this team. I said I liked where they are and what they will build from. I laugh at those so sure they can't win 70 games.

No self righteous act here. When/if you get to 78 maybe your discernment will improve enough that you won't embarrass yourself so much on CT. One can hope.
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Re: How To Kill a Troll

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hugeCardfan wrote: 17 May 2025 11:48 am
Banner29 wrote: 17 May 2025 11:40 am

I don’t care if you buy it or not. You’re free to feel whatever you want to feel to fight back the tears.


I’ve acknowledged several good aspects of this team on other threads. Even mentioned not too long ago how this team is not that far off from being a legitimate contender. You ignore it and that’s ok. I don’t need the validation of a 78 year old man on an Internet forum that creams his pants over 500 records. If I did, life is going seriously wrong for me. But life is good for me even if the Cardinals lose and huge fan thinks I’m a big mean jerk.


So kind of pointless for you to pull the self righteous act on me, old man
Why would I want to fight back tears of joy to watch little chits like you squirm. I never predicted win loss for this team. I said I liked where they are and what they will build from. I laugh at those so sure they can't win 70 games.

No self righteous act here. When/if you get to 78 maybe your discernment will improve enough that you won't embarrass yourself so much on CT. One can hope.
The next day at least one CTer doesn’t use being old as some license to be a condescending, smug jerk will be the first.
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Re: How To Kill a Troll

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desertrat23 wrote: 17 May 2025 11:57 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 17 May 2025 11:48 am
Banner29 wrote: 17 May 2025 11:40 am

I don’t care if you buy it or not. You’re free to feel whatever you want to feel to fight back the tears.


I’ve acknowledged several good aspects of this team on other threads. Even mentioned not too long ago how this team is not that far off from being a legitimate contender. You ignore it and that’s ok. I don’t need the validation of a 78 year old man on an Internet forum that creams his pants over 500 records. If I did, life is going seriously wrong for me. But life is good for me even if the Cardinals lose and huge fan thinks I’m a big mean jerk.


So kind of pointless for you to pull the self righteous act on me, old man
Why would I want to fight back tears of joy to watch little chits like you squirm. I never predicted win loss for this team. I said I liked where they are and what they will build from. I laugh at those so sure they can't win 70 games.

No self righteous act here. When/if you get to 78 maybe your discernment will improve enough that you won't embarrass yourself so much on CT. One can hope.
The next day at least one CTer doesn’t use being old as some license to be a condescending, smug jerk will be the first.
rat I don't have a problem with you calling me names. Live long enough, you'll be inured to that kinda chit from pissants too. If it helps you let 'er rip. But, if you call this team garbage you're pizzing off the good humor man and get what you deserve.
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Re: How To Kill a Troll

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hugeCardfan wrote: 17 May 2025 11:48 am
Banner29 wrote: 17 May 2025 11:40 am

I don’t care if you buy it or not. You’re free to feel whatever you want to feel to fight back the tears.


I’ve acknowledged several good aspects of this team on other threads. Even mentioned not too long ago how this team is not that far off from being a legitimate contender. You ignore it and that’s ok. I don’t need the validation of a 78 year old man on an Internet forum that creams his pants over 500 records. If I did, life is going seriously wrong for me. But life is good for me even if the Cardinals lose and huge fan thinks I’m a big mean jerk.


So kind of pointless for you to pull the self righteous act on me, old man
Why would I want to fight back tears of joy to watch little chits like you squirm. I never predicted win loss for this team. I said I liked where they are and what they will build from. I laugh at those so sure they can't win 70 games.

No self righteous act here. When/if you get to 78 maybe your discernment will improve enough that you won't embarrass yourself so much on CT. One can hope.
When did I say they couldn’t win 70 games? Now you’re just putting words in my mouth. And laughing about imaginary things you made up in your head.

But please, go on about embarrassing oneself on cardstalk…..
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Empty Spray Bottle

Vinegar, Salt, Dish Soap, and Hot Water

this will kill all unwanted Weeds. More effective if you use before a rain.

No data as to if it would work on Trolls. But weeds are just as annoying
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Re: How To Kill a Troll

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Banner29 wrote: 17 May 2025 12:03 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 17 May 2025 11:48 am
Banner29 wrote: 17 May 2025 11:40 am

I don’t care if you buy it or not. You’re free to feel whatever you want to feel to fight back the tears.


I’ve acknowledged several good aspects of this team on other threads. Even mentioned not too long ago how this team is not that far off from being a legitimate contender. You ignore it and that’s ok. I don’t need the validation of a 78 year old man on an Internet forum that creams his pants over 500 records. If I did, life is going seriously wrong for me. But life is good for me even if the Cardinals lose and huge fan thinks I’m a big mean jerk.


So kind of pointless for you to pull the self righteous act on me, old man
Why would I want to fight back tears of joy to watch little chits like you squirm. I never predicted win loss for this team. I said I liked where they are and what they will build from. I laugh at those so sure they can't win 70 games.

No self righteous act here. When/if you get to 78 maybe your discernment will improve enough that you won't embarrass yourself so much on CT. One can hope.
When did I say they couldn’t win 70 games? Now you’re just putting words in my mouth. And laughing about imaginary things you made up in your head.

But please, go on about embarrassing oneself on cardstalk…..
Sorry idiot, did you forget you wrote this?
“We were good enough to win games until it came to winning against good teams”

Could have just said that but I guess that would have put a hamper on the dynasty parade….


Go ahead and let Mo tell you how you’re supposed to be a fan and then get on here and try and tell all of us how we’re supposed to be fans. It’s no skin off my a**. You can pout, pee your pants, or throw as many tantrums and disguise is as “Lord Optimism” all you want. You won’t change the higher standards that fans have on this team that, while we’re talking about it, weren’t even just established by the fans. They were once established standards I reiterate from the TLR/Walt era that were slowly torn away from an egotistical bow tie dork.

So again, cream yourself to above .500 records all you want. Not everyone else will. The Cardinal fanbase aren’t the only ones with higher expectations nor are the only ones that speak up when they aren’t being met.

You can enjoy your empty seats, sticky whitey tighties, and self righteous attitude. And maybe stop letting us “miserable” people ruin all that for you…….
You earned all the abuse you got.
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