Trade Kyrou or Not?

[Pierre McGuire]

How many young 8M wingers do you know that can blow around defenders like Kyrou ? He's part of the solution, part of the core. He proved it this year. He's playing good responsible 200 ft hockey, has matured also as a shooter, o-zone operator. He just needs line-mates fast enough to feed him, be there to pick up the passes, rebounds. He's not a big body man - that's OK. We have other guys for that. I'm no expert, but that's my take, what I've seen. Elite speed.

Without a doubt…spot on. You can’t have a team of the same certain type of player. Not many guys you would receive back in a deal for Kyrou where you could say that the Blue won the trade.

[bud white]

How many young 8M wingers do you know that can blow around defenders like Kyrou ? He's part of the solution, part of the core. He proved it this year. He's playing good responsible 200 ft hockey, has matured also as a shooter, o-zone operator. He just needs line-mates fast enough to feed him, be there to pick up the passes, rebounds. He's not a big body man - that's OK. We have other guys for that. I'm no expert, but that's my take, what I've seen. Elite speed.

Seems to me that if a team is constantly challenged with finding the "right linemates" for a player, then he really isn't a very well rounded player.

An elite player should be able to be able to play with anyone.

That's how I see it, anyway.

[britishblue]

For the right deal, sure.

There really arent many right deals though.

I do wonder what kyrou and our 1st would bring back though.

[a smell of green grass]

How many young 8M wingers do you know that can blow around defenders like Kyrou ? He's part of the solution, part of the core. He proved it this year. He's playing good responsible 200 ft hockey, has matured also as a shooter, o-zone operator. He just needs line-mates fast enough to feed him, be there to pick up the passes, rebounds. He's not a big body man - that's OK. We have other guys for that. I'm no expert, but that's my take, what I've seen. Elite speed.

Seems to me that if a team is constantly challenged with finding the "right linemates" for a player, then he really isn't a very well rounded player.

An elite player should be able to be able to play with anyone.

That's how I see it, anyway.

No matter who lined up as receivers with Kurt Warner, they were gonna start getting completions. That is what the best players do--elevate the play of those around them.

[bud white]

How many young 8M wingers do you know that can blow around defenders like Kyrou ? He's part of the solution, part of the core. He proved it this year. He's playing good responsible 200 ft hockey, has matured also as a shooter, o-zone operator. He just needs line-mates fast enough to feed him, be there to pick up the passes, rebounds. He's not a big body man - that's OK. We have other guys for that. I'm no expert, but that's my take, what I've seen. Elite speed.

Seems to me that if a team is constantly challenged with finding the "right linemates" for a player, then he really isn't a very well rounded player.

An elite player should be able to be able to play with anyone.

That's how I see it, anyway.

No matter who lined up as receivers with Kurt Warner, they were gonna start getting completions. That is what the best players do--elevate the play of those around them.

In hockey, those are called assists. Why doesn't Kyrou have a ton of assists?

[theograce]

It’s Kyrou for Brady…that’s pretty much the only deal that I make. Boldy would be my 2nd choice but Minnesota isn’t trading him. Brady makes the most sense because he will be traded….eventually. I still think there is a chance it happens by the draft.

Why would they do that deal? Their young power forward Captain with international experience in leadership/play.

Everyone knew his brother was getting traded and he didn’t wind up in stl.

Brady might not wind up in St. Louis either but he’s the one guy that I would trade Kyrou for. Brady is gonna ask for a trade eventually.

You don’t think they’d get a better offer than Kyrou?

Sure…gonna come downs to what else Doug or Steener would package with it

If I’m Ottawa I want a legitimate no miss home run.

[Uncle John]

Yes, trade him. Kyrou has NOT been the same hockey player since he won the fastest skater contest at the NHL All-Star game a couple years ago.

[dhsux]

It’s Kyrou for Brady…that’s pretty much the only deal that I make. Boldy would be my 2nd choice but Minnesota isn’t trading him. Brady makes the most sense because he will be traded….eventually. I still think there is a chance it happens by the draft.

Why is Ottawa trading their captain fresh from their first play off since when?

Is this some known fact Tkachuk wants out?

That team is finally close to contending.

[Galatians221jb1]

How many young 8M wingers do you know that can blow around defenders like Kyrou ? He's part of the solution, part of the core. He proved it this year. He's playing good responsible 200 ft hockey, has matured also as a shooter, o-zone operator. He just needs line-mates fast enough to feed him, be there to pick up the passes, rebounds. He's not a big body man - that's OK. We have other guys for that. I'm no expert, but that's my take, what I've seen. Elite speed.

Seems to me that if a team is constantly challenged with finding the "right linemates" for a player, then he really isn't a very well rounded player.

An elite player should be able to be able to play with anyone.

That's how I see it, anyway.

No matter who lined up as receivers with Kurt Warner, they were gonna start getting completions. That is what the best players do--elevate the play of those around them.

In hockey, those are called assists. Why doesn't Kyrou have a ton of assists?

He's a careless passer. His weak, backhand flips to no one and his lame drop passes to the other team are a huge liability. He passes well on a two man break but that's it.

[brianstlou2]

By trading him for a Round 1, do you mean a 1st round pick? If so, then hell no. Maybe for a top-5 pick but even then, that’d be going backwards on the development curve. We need players that are good NOW, not ones that’ll make an impact 5 or so years from now.

Would I be opposed to trading him though? No. But it’d be for a very narrow asset in return - a center or RD of equal value. Or a better C of RD with the Blues adding something to the package to make it even. No picks, no prospects. I don’t expect that trade to happen given how narrow the parameters are and how C and RD are the two most sought after positions in the game, but that’s the only two things I’d consider trading Kyrou for.

Colorado just traded Rantenan for 2 1sts.

No they didn’t you moron. They traded him for Necas, Drury and a 2nd.

And the Avs just got bounced by the team Rantanen ended up on so are you sure they’re really the pillar of excellence you want to hold up?

Smelly - you seriously need to find another team to “root for”. Your life will be much more fulfilling if you find a team like Chicago or San Jose where they have the potential for some superstars. The Blues have passed that phase of their rebuild and will never be interested in trading any of their star assets for high draft picks over the next 5-7 years. And even if they did, you would complain that we don’t draft well.

Face the fact you will never be happy with the Blues even after Army leaves. When Steen takes over you will find things to be disappointed with him.

Seriously find another team. Perhaps you will be happier person with their rebuild and actually be able to cheer for a team as opposed to always be unhappy with them.

[a smell of green grass]

By trading him for a Round 1, do you mean a 1st round pick? If so, then hell no. Maybe for a top-5 pick but even then, that’d be going backwards on the development curve. We need players that are good NOW, not ones that’ll make an impact 5 or so years from now.

Would I be opposed to trading him though? No. But it’d be for a very narrow asset in return - a center or RD of equal value. Or a better C of RD with the Blues adding something to the package to make it even. No picks, no prospects. I don’t expect that trade to happen given how narrow the parameters are and how C and RD are the two most sought after positions in the game, but that’s the only two things I’d consider trading Kyrou for.

Colorado just traded Rantenan for 2 1sts.

No they didn’t you moron. They traded him for Necas, Drury and a 2nd.

And the Avs just got bounced by the team Rantanen ended up on so are you sure they’re really the pillar of excellence you want to hold up?

Smelly - you seriously need to find another team to “root for”. Your life will be much more fulfilling if you find a team like Chicago or San Jose where they have the potential for some superstars. The Blues have passed that phase of their rebuild and will never be interested in trading any of their star assets for high draft picks over the next 5-7 years. And even if they did, you would complain that we don’t draft well.

Face the fact you will never be happy with the Blues even after Army leaves. When Steen takes over you will find things to be disappointed with him.

Seriously find another team. Perhaps you will be happier person with their rebuild and actually be able to cheer for a team as opposed to always be unhappy with them.

No. I'm keeping my Blues.
If I'm wrong in my analysis, the Blues win and I'm happy.
If I'm correct in my analysis, we can all speculate on who the TOP5 will be together.

I'm happy either way, don't you see.

[southernblues]

No way you trade him he's still young and hasn't reached his full potential.

[theograce]

How many young 8M wingers do you know that can blow around defenders like Kyrou ? He's part of the solution, part of the core. He proved it this year. He's playing good responsible 200 ft hockey, has matured also as a shooter, o-zone operator. He just needs line-mates fast enough to feed him, be there to pick up the passes, rebounds. He's not a big body man - that's OK. We have other guys for that. I'm no expert, but that's my take, what I've seen. Elite speed.

Seems to me that if a team is constantly challenged with finding the "right linemates" for a player, then he really isn't a very well rounded player.

You need a pair. Lines are built on pairs. What did he have? Schenn? Neighbours? That’s not Rantanen, McDavid, Barkov etc.

Kyrou is no different than prime Tarasenko outside of Kyrou being more dynamic offensively.

[SameOldBlues]

I wasnt impressed with him this playoffs, especially after hearing he wasnt nursing an injury. I go back and forth with Kyrou..sometimes I like em and wanna keep em cause his skillset is hard to aquire, but other times he frustrates me and doesn’t seem like he’s givin full effort and Id be fine with trading him. Id like to see him in one more playoffs and see if he shows up or not before deciding. Unfortunately that wouldn’t be wise since he has trade protection next year, so if forced to decide now…id probably trade him assuming we’d get a fair return. If you’re gonna trade someone, you should always trade them before they’re on the decline of their career to maximize the return.

[blues2112]

Yes, trade him. Kyrou has NOT been the same hockey player since he won the fastest skater contest at the NHL All-Star game a couple years ago.

What in the name of Bomac are you talking about?
That season, he scored 27 goals.

The next three:
37 goals, -38
31 goals, -12
36 goals, +23

What's more, he missed three games out of 246 during that span, meaning he played 98.7 percent of games.

[DawgDad]

I wasnt impressed with him this playoffs, especially after hearing he wasnt nursing an injury. I go back and forth with Kyrou..sometimes I like em and wanna keep em cause his skillset is hard to aquire, but other times he frustrates me and doesn’t seem like he’s givin full effort and Id be fine with trading him. Id like to see him in one more playoffs and see if he shows up or not before deciding. Unfortunately that wouldn’t be wise since he has trade protection next year, so if forced to decide now…id probably trade him assuming we’d get a fair return. If you’re gonna trade someone, you should always trade them before they’re on the decline of their career to maximize the return.

Who said he wasn't nursing an injury?

What ARMY said was if you can suit up and play he won't take "injury" as an excuse.

Translated: They're all banged up to some extent. When you suit up to play you play to win.