Trade Kyrou or Not?

[a smell of green grass]

By trading him for a Round 1, do you mean a 1st round pick? If so, then hell no. Maybe for a top-5 pick but even then, that’d be going backwards on the development curve. We need players that are good NOW, not ones that’ll make an impact 5 or so years from now.

Would I be opposed to trading him though? No. But it’d be for a very narrow asset in return - a center or RD of equal value. Or a better C of RD with the Blues adding something to the package to make it even. No picks, no prospects. I don’t expect that trade to happen given how narrow the parameters are and how C and RD are the two most sought after positions in the game, but that’s the only two things I’d consider trading Kyrou for.

Colorado just traded Rantenan for 2 1sts.

No they didn’t you moron. They traded him for Necas, Drury and a 2nd.

And the Avs just got bounced by the team Rantanen ended up on so are you sure they’re really the pillar of excellence you want to hold up?

Wow. Getting kinda personal there.
I thought I saw that they got 2 1-s. But they just got a 2 and a 4. My mistake.

2 1-s is what they should have gotten for Rantenan.

I''ll hold to my belief that a "talent pipeline" is much better than a "talent window".

[rbirules]

For draft picks? Absolutely not.

In a hockey trade where the Blues get a similarly talented player at a position of greater need? Yes, I'd consider it. Given Kyrou is a winger you're probably getting a player that costs more, has less team control, or has less performance certainty (highly regarded going player on an ELC).

[blues2112]

I thought I saw that they got 2 1-s. But they just got a 2 and a 4. My mistake.

2 1-s is what they should have gotten for Rantenan.

Did you read MN's response? Avs got Necas, Drury AND a 2nd and 4th.

Carolina got two 1sts, two thirds and Stankoven.

This stuff is easy to look up:

January 24, 2025: Traded as part of a 3-team trade by the Colorado Avalanche to the Carolina Hurricanes.. The Chicago Blackhawks sent Taylor Hall and Nils Juntorp to the Carolina Hurricanes. The Carolina Hurricanes sent 3rd round draft pick in 2025 to the Chicago Blackhawks. The Carolina Hurricanes sent 2nd round draft pick in 2025 , 4th round draft pick in 2026 , Jack Drury and Martin Nečas to the Colorado Avalanche.

March 7, 2025: Traded by the Carolina Hurricanes to the Dallas Stars for 1st round draft pick in 2026 conditional, 1st round draft pick in 2028 conditional, 3rd round draft pick in 2026 , 3rd round draft pick in 2027 and Logan Stankoven.

[rbirules]

By trading him for a Round 1, do you mean a 1st round pick? If so, then hell no. Maybe for a top-5 pick but even then, that’d be going backwards on the development curve. We need players that are good NOW, not ones that’ll make an impact 5 or so years from now.

Would I be opposed to trading him though? No. But it’d be for a very narrow asset in return - a center or RD of equal value. Or a better C of RD with the Blues adding something to the package to make it even. No picks, no prospects. I don’t expect that trade to happen given how narrow the parameters are and how C and RD are the two most sought after positions in the game, but that’s the only two things I’d consider trading Kyrou for.

Colorado just traded Rantenan for 2 1sts.

No they didn’t you moron. They traded him for Necas, Drury and a 2nd.

And the Avs just got bounced by the team Rantanen ended up on so are you sure they’re really the pillar of excellence you want to hold up?

Wow. Getting kinda personal there.
I thought I saw that they got 2 1-s. But they just got a 2 and a 4. My mistake.

2 1-s is what they should have gotten for Rantenan.

I''ll hold to my belief that a "talent pipeline" is much better than a "talent window".

Like you said, you made a mistake . . . and were corrected.

So a team with playoff aspirations also didn't trade their top winger for 1st round picks, they traded for young talent (Necas) and lower picks to balance the scales.

He was later traded for (late) 1st round picks after it was clear he wouldn't extend in Carolina and they lost all the leverage in trades.

A talent pipeline is important in any sport. But at some point in your competitive window you need to cash in some futures to improve your chances in the moment. Especially in a sport that requires winning four best of seven series in the playoffs.

[a smell of green grass]

I thought I saw that they got 2 1-s. But they just got a 2 and a 4. My mistake.

2 1-s is what they should have gotten for Rantenan.

Did you read MN's response? Avs got Necas, Drury AND a 2nd and 4th.

Carolina got two 1sts, two thirds and Stankoven.

This stuff is easy to look up:

January 24, 2025: Traded as part of a 3-team trade by the Colorado Avalanche to the Carolina Hurricanes.. The Chicago Blackhawks sent Taylor Hall and Nils Juntorp to the Carolina Hurricanes. The Carolina Hurricanes sent 3rd round draft pick in 2025 to the Chicago Blackhawks. The Carolina Hurricanes sent 2nd round draft pick in 2025 , 4th round draft pick in 2026 , Jack Drury and Martin Nečas to the Colorado Avalanche.

March 7, 2025: Traded by the Carolina Hurricanes to the Dallas Stars for 1st round draft pick in 2026 conditional, 1st round draft pick in 2028 conditional, 3rd round draft pick in 2026 , 3rd round draft pick in 2027 and Logan Stankoven.

Oh ok. Thanks. That is what I didn't remember correctly. So Carolina is the playoff team that is loading up on Round 1 picks--for their pipeline.

[STL fan in MN]

I thought I saw that they got 2 1-s. But they just got a 2 and a 4. My mistake.

2 1-s is what they should have gotten for Rantenan.

Did you read MN's response? Avs got Necas, Drury AND a 2nd and 4th.

Carolina got two 1sts, two thirds and Stankoven.

This stuff is easy to look up:

January 24, 2025: Traded as part of a 3-team trade by the Colorado Avalanche to the Carolina Hurricanes.. The Chicago Blackhawks sent Taylor Hall and Nils Juntorp to the Carolina Hurricanes. The Carolina Hurricanes sent 3rd round draft pick in 2025 to the Chicago Blackhawks. The Carolina Hurricanes sent 2nd round draft pick in 2025 , 4th round draft pick in 2026 , Jack Drury and Martin Nečas to the Colorado Avalanche.

March 7, 2025: Traded by the Carolina Hurricanes to the Dallas Stars for 1st round draft pick in 2026 conditional, 1st round draft pick in 2028 conditional, 3rd round draft pick in 2026 , 3rd round draft pick in 2027 and Logan Stankoven.

Oh ok. Thanks. That is what I didn't remember correctly. So Carolina is the playoff team that is loading up on Round 1 picks--for their pipeline.

Only because that’s the best they could do an hour or so before the trade deadline since Rantanen told them he wouldn’t sign there. And they were (correctly) lambasted for it. From an asset value perspective, they did well. But from an asset management perspective considering they’re trying to win the Cup, trading away Necas and Drury…and then Rantanen was really, really stupid.

[LGB73]

If it's to get a 2c or younger top four RD (with Faulk gone as well), then yes I can see moving him. Blues would be leaning into Snuggerud/Bolduc in the top 6 on the right side. That could work but putting pressure on the young guys to improve and live up to the hype. Kyrou does leave something to be desired when it comes to playoff hockey so moving on from him to fill a greater need could make sense.

Is it likely to happen? Probably not and that's not a bad thing either. 30+ goal scorers are nice to have with that cap hit.

[Pierre McGuire]

It’s Kyrou for Brady…that’s pretty much the only deal that I make. Boldy would be my 2nd choice but Minnesota isn’t trading him. Brady makes the most sense because he will be traded….eventually. I still think there is a chance it happens by the draft.

[theograce]

It’s Kyrou for Brady…that’s pretty much the only deal that I make. Boldy would be my 2nd choice but Minnesota isn’t trading him. Brady makes the most sense because he will be traded….eventually. I still think there is a chance it happens by the draft.

Why would they do that deal? Their young power forward Captain with international experience in leadership/play.

Everyone knew his brother was getting traded and he didn’t wind up in stl.

[Pierre McGuire]

It’s Kyrou for Brady…that’s pretty much the only deal that I make. Boldy would be my 2nd choice but Minnesota isn’t trading him. Brady makes the most sense because he will be traded….eventually. I still think there is a chance it happens by the draft.

Why would they do that deal? Their young power forward Captain with international experience in leadership/play.

Everyone knew his brother was getting traded and he didn’t wind up in stl.

Brady might not wind up in St. Louis either but he’s the one guy that I would trade Kyrou for. Brady is gonna ask for a trade eventually.

[STL fan in MN]

It’s Kyrou for Brady…that’s pretty much the only deal that I make. Boldy would be my 2nd choice but Minnesota isn’t trading him. Brady makes the most sense because he will be traded….eventually. I still think there is a chance it happens by the draft.

Why would they do that deal? Their young power forward Captain with international experience in leadership/play.

Everyone knew his brother was getting traded and he didn’t wind up in stl.

Brady might not wind up in St. Louis either but he’s the one guy that I would trade Kyrou for. Brady is gonna ask for a trade eventually.

Why? Simply because he’s American and some Americans haven’t re-signed with Canadian teams?

[theograce]

It’s Kyrou for Brady…that’s pretty much the only deal that I make. Boldy would be my 2nd choice but Minnesota isn’t trading him. Brady makes the most sense because he will be traded….eventually. I still think there is a chance it happens by the draft.

Why would they do that deal? Their young power forward Captain with international experience in leadership/play.

Everyone knew his brother was getting traded and he didn’t wind up in stl.

Brady might not wind up in St. Louis either but he’s the one guy that I would trade Kyrou for. Brady is gonna ask for a trade eventually.

You don’t think they’d get a better offer than Kyrou?

[Pierre McGuire]

It’s Kyrou for Brady…that’s pretty much the only deal that I make. Boldy would be my 2nd choice but Minnesota isn’t trading him. Brady makes the most sense because he will be traded….eventually. I still think there is a chance it happens by the draft.

Why would they do that deal? Their young power forward Captain with international experience in leadership/play.

Everyone knew his brother was getting traded and he didn’t wind up in stl.

Brady might not wind up in St. Louis either but he’s the one guy that I would trade Kyrou for. Brady is gonna ask for a trade eventually.

You don’t think they’d get a better offer than Kyrou?

Sure…gonna come downs to what else Doug or Steener would package with it

[Pierre McGuire]

It’s Kyrou for Brady…that’s pretty much the only deal that I make. Boldy would be my 2nd choice but Minnesota isn’t trading him. Brady makes the most sense because he will be traded….eventually. I still think there is a chance it happens by the draft.

Why would they do that deal? Their young power forward Captain with international experience in leadership/play.

Everyone knew his brother was getting traded and he didn’t wind up in stl.

Brady might not wind up in St. Louis either but he’s the one guy that I would trade Kyrou for. Brady is gonna ask for a trade eventually.

Why? Simply because he’s American and some Americans haven’t re-signed with Canadian teams?

I don’t believe he wants to stay there long term. Family compounds are in St. Louis and Florida. No idea where he ends up but he’s not staying in Ottawa much longer.

[AtillaTheBlue1]

trade him while he has value

floats 2 much and you can replace his goals with snuggerud and player who replaces him on the line


team needs 1 or 2 young, coming inot their prime dmen. no more turds on defense

[MikoTython]

How many young 8M wingers do you know that can blow around defenders like Kyrou ? He's part of the solution, part of the core. He proved it this year. He's playing good responsible 200 ft hockey, has matured also as a shooter, o-zone operator. He just needs line-mates fast enough to feed him, be there to pick up the passes, rebounds. He's not a big body man - that's OK. We have other guys for that. I'm no expert, but that's my take, what I've seen. Elite speed.