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Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 29 Apr 2025 13:45 pm
by sikeston bulldog2
renostl wrote: 29 Apr 2025 13:42 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 29 Apr 2025 13:40 pm
riff raff wrote: 29 Apr 2025 13:33 pm
Cranny wrote: 29 Apr 2025 13:18 pm I made this offer on another thread, and will make it on this thread too. I’m going to a function in a few days where Oli is going to be the speaker. He’ll have a Q&A session after his talk. Are there any non embarrassing questions that anyone would like asked? About specific players maybe?
favorite food?
how he met his wife?
where does he buy his suits?
why does he suck at managing?
are there whores on the road trips?

That's all I've got. Thanks in advance!
Ask him if he thinks hitting a slumping Willy at the two slot Contribute to his team leading 6 double plays.
It's not WC's fault Nootbaar is on base over 40% of the time.
Exactly. So why not a hotter or faster hitter at two during his slump. Scott maybe.

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 29 Apr 2025 13:47 pm
by WLTFE
I just hope that whomever takes Oli's place has a beautiful family!

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 29 Apr 2025 13:50 pm
by Jatalk
45s wrote: 29 Apr 2025 13:05 pm Dismissing him is easy..

Hiring a quality replacement, not so much….
Smartest reply in thread so far. I’m waiting for Yadi or Albert to be a reply which would be a dumb move imo.

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 29 Apr 2025 13:52 pm
by 82birds
ramfandan wrote: 29 Apr 2025 10:21 am Bloom certainly will know by early September ( if not sooner) whether he wishes Oli back for 2026 .
In NFL , dismissals are often announced the day after final game known as Black Monday.
Regardless of returning or being dismissed, how will this go down ?

A. As speculation mounts in September , Mo announces that Bloom will solely make that decision at conclusion of season.
B. Mo announces in late Sept. that he and Bloom jointly decided to have Marmol return for 2026.
C. After season, Bloom announces that he met with Oli and informed him he (Bloom) wants a change thanking Oli for his work during ‘reset’ year.
D. Other
not sure how
what I am sure of he needs to be dismissed
great thread Dan

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 29 Apr 2025 16:03 pm
by Cranny
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 29 Apr 2025 13:29 pm
Cranny wrote: 29 Apr 2025 13:18 pm I made this offer on another thread, and will make it on this thread too. I’m going to a function in a few days where Oli is going to be the speaker. He’ll have a Q&A session after his talk. Are there any non embarrassing questions that anyone would like asked? About specific players maybe?
When the record is what it is, and the Cardinals are playing on the road and that is what it is- it seems like all of the questions are embarrassing.
Well, TB, here's what I'm going to ask Oli -

1.) The other day, the Cardinals took 8 called third strikes. We were told in little league, high school ball, college ball, etc. to always swing at a 3rd strike if it's anywhere near the plate. Why don't they do that?

2.) Gorman and Walker have had a decent amount of time now as pros, and several pitching coaches. Why does Gorman still chase swing and strike out on shoulder high 2 seam fastballs, and Walker on sliders low and away?

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 29 Apr 2025 16:17 pm
by JuanAgosto
In no logical scenario should Mo have any say in Oli's future as the manager of this team. Hopefully, Bloom has spent 2024 & 2025 making a list of things he wants to change. I would think Oli is near the top.

I think an announcement is made within 10 days of season's end.

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 29 Apr 2025 16:34 pm
by ilcubuffs
1.) The other day, the Cardinals took 8 called third strikes. We were told in little league, high school ball, college ball, etc. to always swing at a 3rd strike if it's anywhere near the plate. Why don't they do that?

2.) Gorman and Walker have had a decent amount of time now as pros, and several pitching coaches. Why does Gorman still chase swing and strike out on shoulder high 2 seam fastballs, and Walker on sliders low and away?

3. 4/28 vs Reds. Top of 5th. Pages doubles. Scott II walks. No outs. Winn bunts and Pages FO at 3B. Noots follows with DP. No runs. Manager strategy or Winn acting unilaterally? IF managerial strategy why attempt with Pages as lead runner?

4. What aspects of John Jay's coaching has helped Scott II improve his offense and defense performance? To this point of season, Scott II is totally different player than Cardinal fans have watched in the past.

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 29 Apr 2025 16:48 pm
by Cranny
ilcubuffs wrote: 29 Apr 2025 16:34 pm 1.) The other day, the Cardinals took 8 called third strikes. We were told in little league, high school ball, college ball, etc. to always swing at a 3rd strike if it's anywhere near the plate. Why don't they do that?

2.) Gorman and Walker have had a decent amount of time now as pros, and several pitching coaches. Why does Gorman still chase swing and strike out on shoulder high 2 seam fastballs, and Walker on sliders low and away?

3. 4/28 vs Reds. Top of 5th. Pages doubles. Scott II walks. No outs. Winn bunts and Pages FO at 3B. Noots follows with DP. No runs. Manager strategy or Winn acting unilaterally? IF managerial strategy why attempt with Pages as lead runner?

4. What aspects of John Jay's coaching has helped Scott II improve his offense and defense performance? To this point of season, Scott II is totally different player than Cardinal fans have watched in the past.
Thanks, buffs. Excellent question.

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 29 Apr 2025 19:45 pm
by Melville
ramfandan wrote: 29 Apr 2025 11:48 am
Melville wrote: 29 Apr 2025 10:58 am Zero percent chance he comes back.
The Marmot will be gone sometime this year.
Could you be more specific on your 'sometime this year '
Does that mean during the regular season ? After regular season but prior to end of October ? the 2025 calendar year as late as December ?
Absolutely happy to add further context.
Bloom is evaluating more than players alone right now.
He is evaluating staff.
Additionally, the STL Marketing company is prepping for 2026.
The Marmot decision will not be timed in a vacuum.
Descalso and Jay factor as well - in several ways.
Currently, this is where it all stands:
If STL is ahead of only Colorado in the NL in the coming 30 days, there is a 70% chance of The Marmot being fired somewhere around early June.
If STL is sitting 4 or 5 in the division and 10 games out in mid-July, there is a 90% of him being fired no later than early August.
And, there is a 100% chance of him not surviving beyond October 31.

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 29 Apr 2025 19:49 pm
by BrummerStealsHome
Melville wrote: 29 Apr 2025 10:58 am Zero percent chance he comes back.
The Marmot will be gone sometime this year.
I'm still hoping for April!

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 29 Apr 2025 20:20 pm
by Ozziesfan41
It will be announced that they have mutually agreed to part ways

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 29 Apr 2025 20:38 pm
by riff raff
Melville wrote: 29 Apr 2025 19:45 pm
ramfandan wrote: 29 Apr 2025 11:48 am
Melville wrote: 29 Apr 2025 10:58 am Zero percent chance he comes back.
The Marmot will be gone sometime this year.
Could you be more specific on your 'sometime this year '
Does that mean during the regular season ? After regular season but prior to end of October ? the 2025 calendar year as late as December ?
Absolutely happy to add further context.
Bloom is evaluating more than players alone right now.
He is evaluating staff.
Additionally, the STL Marketing company is prepping for 2026.
The Marmot decision will not be timed in a vacuum.
Descalso and Jay factor as well - in several ways.
Currently, this is where it all stands:
If STL is ahead of only Colorado in the NL in the coming 30 days, there is a 70% chance of The Marmot being fired somewhere around early June.
If STL is sitting 4 or 5 in the division and 10 games out in mid-July, there is a 90% of him being fired no later than early August.
And, there is a 100% chance of him not surviving beyond October 31.
:lol: ok

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 29 Apr 2025 21:16 pm
by JuanAgosto
Melville wrote: 29 Apr 2025 19:45 pm
ramfandan wrote: 29 Apr 2025 11:48 am
Melville wrote: 29 Apr 2025 10:58 am Zero percent chance he comes back.
The Marmot will be gone sometime this year.
Could you be more specific on your 'sometime this year '
Does that mean during the regular season ? After regular season but prior to end of October ? the 2025 calendar year as late as December ?
Absolutely happy to add further context.
Bloom is evaluating more than players alone right now.
He is evaluating staff.
Additionally, the STL Marketing company is prepping for 2026.
The Marmot decision will not be timed in a vacuum.
Descalso and Jay factor as well - in several ways.
Currently, this is where it all stands:
If STL is ahead of only Colorado in the NL in the coming 30 days, there is a 70% chance of The Marmot being fired somewhere around early June.
If STL is sitting 4 or 5 in the division and 10 games out in mid-July, there is a 90% of him being fired no later than early August.
And, there is a 100% chance of him not surviving beyond October 31.
I disagree. Don't see any way oli is fired in-season. They aren't even concerned about winning. That makes two years in a row where Marmol has been managing stress-free. This is a ridiculous way to run a sports team. And the owners act surprised when fans don't show up. Give me a break. Who runs a business that advertises "Hey, we aren't trying!"?

Hopefully, once Mozeliak's pathetic lazy (donkey) is gone, Bloom can bring a competitive spirit back to the organization. That should start with marmol being canned.

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 30 Apr 2025 07:50 am
by Cranny
JuanAgosto wrote: 29 Apr 2025 21:16 pm
Melville wrote: 29 Apr 2025 19:45 pm
ramfandan wrote: 29 Apr 2025 11:48 am
Melville wrote: 29 Apr 2025 10:58 am Zero percent chance he comes back.
The Marmot will be gone sometime this year.
Could you be more specific on your 'sometime this year '
Does that mean during the regular season ? After regular season but prior to end of October ? the 2025 calendar year as late as December ?
Absolutely happy to add further context.
Bloom is evaluating more than players alone right now.
He is evaluating staff.
Additionally, the STL Marketing company is prepping for 2026.
The Marmot decision will not be timed in a vacuum.
Descalso and Jay factor as well - in several ways.
Currently, this is where it all stands:
If STL is ahead of only Colorado in the NL in the coming 30 days, there is a 70% chance of The Marmot being fired somewhere around early June.
If STL is sitting 4 or 5 in the division and 10 games out in mid-July, there is a 90% of him being fired no later than early August.
And, there is a 100% chance of him not surviving beyond October 31.
I disagree. Don't see any way oli is fired in-season. They aren't even concerned about winning. That makes two years in a row where Marmol has been managing stress-free. This is a ridiculous way to run a sports team. And the owners act surprised when fans don't show up. Give me a break. Who runs a business that advertises "Hey, we aren't trying!"?

Hopefully, once Mozeliak's pathetic lazy (donkey) is gone, Bloom can bring a competitive spirit back to the organization. That should start with marmol being canned.
Bloom is stepping into a huge job, as defined by the Cardinals organizational chart. Google “Cardinals Staff Directory” and see all the departments and people listed under that job title.

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 30 Apr 2025 08:13 am
by Cranny
Also going to hear Rob Rains today. Any questions for him?

Re: How will Oli return or dismissal be handled?

Posted: 30 Apr 2025 08:32 am
by sikeston bulldog2
ELO telephone song.

“ ok so no one’s answering. “