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craviduce wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:31 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:25 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:19 pm

kyace wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 17:52 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:29 pm I pray it's before the draft....I want that mid 30's Competitive Balance pick from a team like the Red Sox, Yankees, Mariners, Mets or Dodgers....

Baltimore has the 30th and 31st comp picks. They need pitching badly. Arizona has the 29th pick they can trade and need a closer.
Fedde for the 31st pick from Baltimore and Helsley to Arizona for rh power bat Waldshmidt

They should aim for bigger targets. The Cardinals have a few really desirable trade targets for a contender filling holes and even a few compelling youngsters that they could consider trading. If they need to, they should put together packages that bring back one higher quality player who is near major league ready in return. Don't accept numerous generic prospects with questionable ceilings. They should trade away twice as many players as they get back in return, but the return should have clear upside.

the Picks are part of it, but I WANT the picks included in a trade for Helsley, Fedde, Nado, etc

if we trade Helsley and Fedde to the Orioles, I would want Mayo and Comp Round B pick from the O's...if that's not enough, then give me a 16 or 1yo DSL pitcher that shows some promise

Mayo is the right target. If they can get him that seems like a haul. If they can get the pick, more power to them.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:27 pm

cardsfaninla wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:23 pm

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?

30 more days of this type of ball?

Can we rewind to the offseason and trade Helsley, Fedde, and anyone else anyone wanted? (aside from those no trade protected guys - who I still wish we traded but understand the challenges)

If they can rewind to offseason fire oli. Hes giving away way too many winnable games

How?

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:48 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:18 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pm

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?

30 more days of this type of ball?

If MO is doing the selling, never.

Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.

Mo won't let that happen. He will run the trades. And they will be idiotic. He's going to wave that middle finger to the fans all the way out the door.

Then the owner needs to sell the team pronto.

For some reason, the DeWitts are either extremely loyal to Mo, or compromised by him.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 20:03 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:48 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:18 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pm

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?

30 more days of this type of ball?

If MO is doing the selling, never.

Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.

Mo won't let that happen. He will run the trades. And they will be idiotic. He's going to wave that middle finger to the fans all the way out the door.

Then the owner needs to sell the team pronto.

For some reason, the DeWitts are either extremely loyal to Mo, or compromised by him.

I think I know to which you allude. Cyber crime. Was not good for the organization.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:27 pm

cardsfaninla wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:23 pm

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?

30 more days of this type of ball?

Can we rewind to the offseason and trade Helsley, Fedde, and anyone else anyone wanted? (aside from those no trade protected guys - who I still wish we traded but understand the challenges)

If they can rewind to offseason fire oli. Hes giving away way too many winnable games

Yawn. Same old Ollie bashing. He is not a good manager, but THE PLAYERS are giving away too many games.

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 21:09 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 20:03 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:48 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:18 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pm

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?

30 more days of this type of ball?

If MO is doing the selling, never.

Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.

Mo won't let that happen. He will run the trades. And they will be idiotic. He's going to wave that middle finger to the fans all the way out the door.

Then the owner needs to sell the team pronto.

For some reason, the DeWitts are either extremely loyal to Mo, or compromised by him.

I think I know to which you allude. Cyber crime. Was not good for the organization.

Yep. Could explain why he's still around.

Good news.

We only owe Gray ~$61M more on his 1.85 year contract (or $86M on his 2.85 year contract)
We only owe Contreras ~$57.5M more on his 2.85 year contract (or $70M on his 3.85 year contract)
We only owe Arenado ~$57M more on his 2.85 year contract.
We only owe Mikolas ~$13.5M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Matz ~$10M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Helsley ~$7M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Fedde ~$6.3M more on his 0.85 year contract.

We are making excellent progress. Expenses could be even less if we trade some of these guys. Then it won't matter if no one attends any games.

The Rays don't hear many boos at their home games. Their fans mostly cheer for the other team which is why they came to the game anyway.

Bob Kunush wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 21:18 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:27 pm

cardsfaninla wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:23 pm

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?

30 more days of this type of ball?

Can we rewind to the offseason and trade Helsley, Fedde, and anyone else anyone wanted? (aside from those no trade protected guys - who I still wish we traded but understand the challenges)

If they can rewind to offseason fire oli. Hes giving away way too many winnable games

Yawn. Same old Ollie bashing. He is not a good manager, but THE PLAYERS are giving away too many games.

Dude...you constantly defending Oli is getting creepy...you're not the typical front office (donkey) kisser...you're much stranger.

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 15:06 pm

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:30 pm Sell or not, somehow Saggese needs more ABs for this team. ex. maybe some of Walker's.

Maybe some of Burleson's!

all of Burlesons

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pm

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?

30 more days of this type of ball?

If MO is doing the selling, never.

Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.

And get nothing but a compensatory pick for Fedde and Helsley?

cardstatman wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 23:19 pm Good news.

We only owe Gray ~$61M more on his 1.85 year contract (or $86M on his 2.85 year contract)
We only owe Contreras ~$57.5M more on his 2.85 year contract (or $70M on his 3.85 year contract)
We only owe Arenado ~$57M more on his 2.85 year contract.
We only owe Mikolas ~$13.5M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Matz ~$10M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Helsley ~$7M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Fedde ~$6.3M more on his 0.85 year contract.

We are making excellent progress. Expenses could be even less if we trade some of these guys. Then it won't matter if no one attends any games.

The Rays don't hear many boos at their home games. Their fans mostly cheer for the other team which is why they came to the game anyway.

Sadly, this contract countdown clock has taken precedence over the National League Central standings this year. Like the balance on my mortgage, can't wait to log on in a few months and see the progress!

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 15:03 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pm

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?

30 more days of this type of ball?

If MO is doing the selling, never.

Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.

Moe has got the be losing his grip. I would think everything is now in full Bloom.

Some things are (Libby to the SR, Noot hitting lead-off) but the roster is still full Mo as far as call-ups, trades ect...

But let's hope Bloom has a voice even if Mo has the final say.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:18 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pm

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?

30 more days of this type of ball?

If MO is doing the selling, never.

Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.

Mo won't let that happen. He will run the trades. And they will be idiotic. He's going to wave that middle finger to the fans all the way out the door.

This is where a younger BDWjr would step in and say, "Mo you don't have final say in any deals, Bloom does".

Sadly he's got old and lost his fire.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:19 pm

kyace wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 17:52 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:29 pm I pray it's before the draft....I want that mid 30's Competitive Balance pick from a team like the Red Sox, Yankees, Mariners, Mets or Dodgers....

Baltimore has the 30th and 31st comp picks. They need pitching badly. Arizona has the 29th pick they can trade and need a closer.
Fedde for the 31st pick from Baltimore and Helsley to Arizona for rh power bat Waldshmidt

They should aim for bigger targets. The Cardinals have a few really desirable trade targets for a contender filling holes and even a few compelling youngsters that they could consider trading. If they need to, they should put together packages that bring back one higher quality player who is near major league ready in return. Don't accept numerous generic prospects with questionable ceilings. They should trade away twice as many players as they get back in return, but the return should have clear upside.

This here!!

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 15:03 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pm

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?

30 more days of this type of ball?

If MO is doing the selling, never.

Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.

Moe has got the be losing his grip. I would think everything is now in full Bloom.

I would love to believe that ARCY