Who has passed the reset so far.

[renostl]

I feel like I'm giving Gorman a bit of an excuse here, but I don't think he's gotten enough steady playing time to make a call on him yet.

And I've seen articles from both DG and John Denton stating that the FO is coming out and saying that that they're committing getting Gorman more steady starts at DH and 2B. I'm assuming that will come at the expense of Burleson, but he's nearly got an OPS under .600 right now. I know Oli loves Burleson, but I wonder if these articles coming out, along with maybe what is being said behind closed doors, are a message to Oli from the FO telling him to cut the [shirt] with Burleson. Just my opinion, but who would you want to see more of based on potential? I'd choose Gorman.

Anyway, I'd say that Jordan Walker continues to disappoint offensively, and he is someone who's getting a chance to play everyday. Now, I'm continuing to start him and give him the chance to fight through it, but I'm not liking what I'm seeing. Aside from his growth defensively. Im hoping he can work on improving offensively as much as he did defensively.

Fine line isn't it.
JW needs the ab's. Yet he also needs more successes to build confidence.
I'm not suggesting a full platoon, especially on 4/23, but I would try and limit
the bad matchups. He seems to be guessing at the plate.

[BrummerStealsHome]

First base

[imadangman]

Good morning.

A reset. Three years. Phase one- get rid of old contracts. We got rid of one. Need to rid Mik and Matz still to complete phase one.

Phase two. Let kids play in 2025. Cut the fat in off season. Add one stud. Play 2026.

Phase three. Cut the fat. Add two studs. Compete in 2027.

Now. Back to phase one, the 2025 season. Who is passing the test.

So far, Donovan- they call me mello yellow., Scott, Pallante, Libby, Gray, Saggese.

Not passing the test. Walker. Winn. Fernandez. Burleson. Siani.

These who do not pass the performance test are subject to trade.

Phase one currently in action.
Enjoy.

O

If we're taking test results at this time, then I don't know.

I'd be looking at Winn as the SS and Scott II as the CF longterm

That means I'm not worrying about short term results or ups and downs. Give them the same leash guys like Ozzie and Yadi got. They are defense first players, I think our best team defensively in the future would have Winn at SS & Scott in CF. They'll grow into the hitting part like Molina and Ozzie.

Jordan Walker, there's been ups and downs but he is still the guy. Where is the star player on this team. It comes down to Walker reaching his potential, and I'm pointing the finger at coaching until he reaches his potential. You're not going to tell me there isn't a 25/100 type run producer there.

But otherwise who's passed the test for now: Donovan is a pure hitter, Herrera is a big-time hitter. Nootbaar looks like a fixture near the top of the lineup. Pallante and Liberatore look like solid starters.

If I'm filling in future positions, here's what I have

C: Pages, Pozo, Crooks, Bernal
1B: Contreras, Herrera
2B: Donovan, Wetherholt, Saggese
SS: Winn
3B: Gorman, Saggese, Wetherholt
LF: Nootbaar
CF: Scott II
RF Walker
DH: Herrera, Contreras, Gorman

The players in bold I'd consider as good as locked in, for those positions. Between Donovan, Wetherholt, Saggese, and Gorman, there will be some jumbling around between who plays 2B, 3B, or some DH time.

Seems like if we're talking about the future, Contreras is only in it because he has a contract but I'd dump him if there was a team interested. It would free up 1B/DH a little more for those excess pieces. 1B might be the best spot to park Herrera. Then you could maybe have Wetherholt at 3B, Gorman primary DH, and Saggese as a super U (2B, SS, 3B, 1B, DH). Keep Donovan at 2B.

Burleson should be dumped in some way.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

A reset. Three years. Phase one- get rid of old contracts. We got rid of one. Need to rid Mik and Matz still to complete phase one.

Phase two. Let kids play in 2025. Cut the fat in off season. Add one stud. Play 2026.

Phase three. Cut the fat. Add two studs. Compete in 2027.

Now. Back to phase one, the 2025 season. Who is passing the test.

So far, Donovan- they call me mello yellow., Scott, Pallante, Libby, Gray, Saggese.

Not passing the test. Walker. Winn. Fernandez. Burleson. Siani.

These who do not pass the performance test are subject to trade.

Phase one currently in action.
Enjoy.

O

If we're taking test results at this time, then I don't know.

I'd be looking at Winn as the SS and Scott II as the CF longterm

That means I'm not worrying about short term results or ups and downs. Give them the same leash guys like Ozzie and Yadi got. They are defense first players, I think our best team defensively in the future would have Winn at SS & Scott in CF. They'll grow into the hitting part like Molina and Ozzie.

Jordan Walker, there's been ups and downs but he is still the guy. Where is the star player on this team. It comes down to Walker reaching his potential, and I'm pointing the finger at coaching until he reaches his potential. You're not going to tell me there isn't a 25/100 type run producer there.

But otherwise who's passed the test for now: Donovan is a pure hitter, Herrera is a big-time hitter. Nootbaar looks like a fixture near the top of the lineup. Pallante and Liberatore look like solid starters.

If I'm filling in future positions, here's what I have

C: Pages, Pozo, Crooks, Bernal
1B: Contreras, Herrera
2B: Donovan, Wetherholt, Saggese
SS: Winn
3B: Gorman, Saggese, Wetherholt
LF: Nootbaar
CF: Scott II
RF Walker
DH: Herrera, Contreras, Gorman

The players in bold I'd consider as good as locked in, for those positions. Between Donovan, Wetherholt, Saggese, and Gorman, there will be some jumbling around between who plays 2B, 3B, or some DH time.

Seems like if we're talking about the future, Contreras is only in it because he has a contract but I'd dump him if there was a team interested. It would free up 1B/DH a little more for those excess pieces. 1B might be the best spot to park Herrera. Then you could maybe have Wetherholt at 3B, Gorman primary DH, and Saggese as a super U (2B, SS, 3B, 1B, DH). Keep Donovan at 2B.

Burleson should be dumped in some way.

Walker seems to be falling out of grace. He may be the main player in an off season move.

[imadangman]

Good morning.

A reset. Three years. Phase one- get rid of old contracts. We got rid of one. Need to rid Mik and Matz still to complete phase one.

Phase two. Let kids play in 2025. Cut the fat in off season. Add one stud. Play 2026.

Phase three. Cut the fat. Add two studs. Compete in 2027.

Now. Back to phase one, the 2025 season. Who is passing the test.

So far, Donovan- they call me mello yellow., Scott, Pallante, Libby, Gray, Saggese.

Not passing the test. Walker. Winn. Fernandez. Burleson. Siani.

These who do not pass the performance test are subject to trade.

Phase one currently in action.
Enjoy.

O

If we're taking test results at this time, then I don't know.

I'd be looking at Winn as the SS and Scott II as the CF longterm

That means I'm not worrying about short term results or ups and downs. Give them the same leash guys like Ozzie and Yadi got. They are defense first players, I think our best team defensively in the future would have Winn at SS & Scott in CF. They'll grow into the hitting part like Molina and Ozzie.

Jordan Walker, there's been ups and downs but he is still the guy. Where is the star player on this team. It comes down to Walker reaching his potential, and I'm pointing the finger at coaching until he reaches his potential. You're not going to tell me there isn't a 25/100 type run producer there.

But otherwise who's passed the test for now: Donovan is a pure hitter, Herrera is a big-time hitter. Nootbaar looks like a fixture near the top of the lineup. Pallante and Liberatore look like solid starters.

If I'm filling in future positions, here's what I have

C: Pages, Pozo, Crooks, Bernal
1B: Contreras, Herrera
2B: Donovan, Wetherholt, Saggese
SS: Winn
3B: Gorman, Saggese, Wetherholt
LF: Nootbaar
CF: Scott II
RF Walker
DH: Herrera, Contreras, Gorman

The players in bold I'd consider as good as locked in, for those positions. Between Donovan, Wetherholt, Saggese, and Gorman, there will be some jumbling around between who plays 2B, 3B, or some DH time.

Seems like if we're talking about the future, Contreras is only in it because he has a contract but I'd dump him if there was a team interested. It would free up 1B/DH a little more for those excess pieces. 1B might be the best spot to park Herrera. Then you could maybe have Wetherholt at 3B, Gorman primary DH, and Saggese as a super U (2B, SS, 3B, 1B, DH). Keep Donovan at 2B.

Burleson should be dumped in some way.

Walker seems to be falling out of grace. He may be the main player in an off season move.

I get it but I don't get it. If you are playing the kids, then you have to give a lot longer leash than normal to a guy like Jordan Walker. The organization can't even make up its mind on whether they are rebuilding or trying to win games. It seems like the organization wouldn't be able to tolerate giving the leash, much less the fans, that it would require to let these guys get comfortable. Why did Sandy Alcantara become so coveted. Because the Marlins let him pitch uninterrupted for 38 starts between 2018-19 in which he had a FIP around 4.60 and a walk rate around 4.5/9. Then he developed. Would you be surprised if there were other teams in this league with a hitting coach that could fix Jordan Walker in two seconds. Then, what would the significance be that he lost his grace here.

[scoutyjones2]

No one ..

[imyourhuckleberry]

Good morning.

A reset. Three years. Phase one- get rid of old contracts. We got rid of one. Need to rid Mik and Matz still to complete phase one.

Phase two. Let kids play in 2025. Cut the fat in off season. Add one stud. Play 2026.

Phase three. Cut the fat. Add two studs. Compete in 2027.

Now. Back to phase one, the 2025 season. Who is passing the test.

So far, Donovan- they call me mello yellow., Scott, Pallante, Libby, Gray, Saggese.

Not passing the test. Walker. Winn. Fernandez. Burleson. Siani.

These who do not pass the performance test are subject to trade.

Phase one currently in action.
Enjoy.

O

Disagree on Winn. Started slowly (hardly the first major league that's happened to). Started to get right, then went on the IL. Let's give him some time to get restarted. His rookie performance has earned him some patience.

The others you mentioned, maybe not so much. Walker has to be questioned at this point. Fernandez is a fringe ML reliever which basically means one good year (at best), one bad year (at best). Burly is slap-hitter in a power hitter's body and Siani is nothing more than a 6th outfielder who should only be playing if your first 3 guys are hurt.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

A reset. Three years. Phase one- get rid of old contracts. We got rid of one. Need to rid Mik and Matz still to complete phase one.

Phase two. Let kids play in 2025. Cut the fat in off season. Add one stud. Play 2026.

Phase three. Cut the fat. Add two studs. Compete in 2027.

Now. Back to phase one, the 2025 season. Who is passing the test.

So far, Donovan- they call me mello yellow., Scott, Pallante, Libby, Gray, Saggese.

Not passing the test. Walker. Winn. Fernandez. Burleson. Siani.

These who do not pass the performance test are subject to trade.

Phase one currently in action.
Enjoy.

O

Disagree on Winn. Started slowly (hardly the first major league that's happened to). Started to get right, then went on the IL. Let's give him some time to get restarted. His rookie performance has earned him some patience.

The others you mentioned, maybe not so much. Walker has to be questioned at this point. Fernandez is a fringe ML reliever which basically means one good year (at best), one bad year (at best). Burly is slap-hitter in a power hitter's body and Siani is nothing more than a 6th outfielder who should only be playing if your first 3 guys are hurt.

Good write. Yea Winn is gonna be there.

[sikeston bulldog2]

A new list.

Libby
Herrea
Saggeese
Scott
Winn
Donovan
Maybe Pallante.

[renostl]

A new list.

Libby
Herrea
Saggeese
Scott
Winn
Donovan
Maybe Pallante.

I think that if any SP can go out and get through 6 IP's with
any consistency that he's a keeper.
Any BP at all and that's more wins than losses.