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scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:11 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:08 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:02 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:51 am

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 10:05 am Oli is loving his fat slow players batting 2nd.

Again, who should be hitting second, (A female canine animal, especially a dog)?

Not the fat singles hitter with the 2nd most GDPs on the team and T-7th best OBP in the lineup. The only player with a lower OBP in the lineup is VS2, but at least he can hit for XBHs and has speed.

So no actual answer just (bleep). Suits you

Saggese (.471 .444 .647 1.092) in the #2 hole

Thank you. I appreciate an actual option vs just whining. Concern is lefty/lefty but with Wheeler, it would be good

Huh?

Saggese is a righthanded hitter

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:13 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:11 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:08 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:02 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:51 am

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 10:05 am Oli is loving his fat slow players batting 2nd.

Again, who should be hitting second, (A female canine animal, especially a dog)?

Not the fat singles hitter with the 2nd most GDPs on the team and T-7th best OBP in the lineup. The only player with a lower OBP in the lineup is VS2, but at least he can hit for XBHs and has speed.

So no actual answer just (bleep). Suits you

Saggese (.471 .444 .647 1.092) in the #2 hole

Thank you. I appreciate an actual option vs just whining. Concern is lefty/lefty but with Wheeler, it would be good

Huh?

Saggese is a righthanded hitter

Lol. I was just looking at JJs last few games and my brain took a pitstop.

What a dumb[ash] I am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:07 pm

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:52 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:49 am

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:45 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:41 am

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:34 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:31 am Thx duce

Oli's got to get Bumbles (.689 OPS) in there at all cost.

Gorman/DH
Saggesse/2B

Saggese (.471 .444 .647 1.092) in the #2 hole

I agree. Right now, Saggese would be as good of a choice as any at #2. Burleson at #5 and Contreras at #6.

Sorry shady but Bumbles shouldn't even be in the lineup now that Gorman back and he can DH.

Your guy Burleson has exactly ZERO (0) Home Runs in his last 195 PA'S!

The only thing is, the Cardinals have had strikeout issues at #2. It's curtailed some potential rallies. Burly usually makes contact. It is perplexing that he doesn't provide more power.

Burleson does indeed have excellent bat-to-ball skills, although starting mid 2024 he's started to swing at way, way too many pitches outside the zone and it's affected his performance.

Right now Saggesse is the OBVIOUS answer in the #2 hole and he should be playing every game w/Winn out (again, what's happened to "Play the Kids"?).

Why Oli continues to fail at lineup construction will be one of the main reasons C. Bloom fires him.

It's seems Burleson has been taking quite a few walks this season. But he needs to produce more power. As do Contreras, Arenado and Walker.

He's not here to draw walks, he's here for extra base hit power.

His .308 xSLG is disturbing.

Please evaluate Contreras', Arenado's and Walker's current slugging.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:14 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:13 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:11 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:08 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:02 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:51 am

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 10:05 am Oli is loving his fat slow players batting 2nd.

Again, who should be hitting second, (A female canine animal, especially a dog)?

Not the fat singles hitter with the 2nd most GDPs on the team and T-7th best OBP in the lineup. The only player with a lower OBP in the lineup is VS2, but at least he can hit for XBHs and has speed.

So no actual answer just (bleep). Suits you

Saggese (.471 .444 .647 1.092) in the #2 hole

Thank you. I appreciate an actual option vs just whining. Concern is lefty/lefty but with Wheeler, it would be good

Huh?

Saggese is a righthanded hitter

Lol. I was just looking at JJs last few games and my brain took a pitstop.

What a dumb[ash] I am

My brain stays in neutral, every now and then I’ll drop it down to first.

Mort Gage wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:01 pm

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:52 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:49 am

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:45 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:41 am

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:34 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:31 am Thx duce

Oli's got to get Bumbles (.689 OPS) in there at all cost.

Gorman/DH
Saggesse/2B

Saggese (.471 .444 .647 1.092) in the #2 hole

I agree. Right now, Saggese would be as good of a choice as any at #2. Burleson at #5 and Contreras at #6.

Sorry shady but Bumbles shouldn't even be in the lineup now that Gorman back and he can DH.

Your guy Burleson has exactly ZERO (0) Home Runs in his last 195 PA'S!

The only thing is, the Cardinals have had strikeout issues at #2. It's curtailed some potential rallies. Burly usually makes contact. It is perplexing that he doesn't provide more power.

Burleson does indeed have excellent bat-to-ball skills, although starting mid 2024 he's started to swing at way, way too many pitches outside the zone and it's affected his performance.

Right now Saggesse is the OBVIOUS answer in the #2 hole and he should be playing every game w/Winn out (again, what's happened to "Play the Kids"?).

Why Oli continues to fail at lineup construction will be one of the main reasons C. Bloom fires him.

It's seems Burleson has been taking quite a few walks this season. But he needs to produce more power. As do Contreras, Arenado and Walker.

Burleson has three walks this season. That matches his XBH total. Yet Oli thinks he walks on water.

I could be wrong. But Burleson appears to be more selective this season at the plate than in the past.

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:20 pm

Mort Gage wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:01 pm

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:52 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:49 am

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:45 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:41 am

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:34 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:31 am Thx duce

Oli's got to get Bumbles (.689 OPS) in there at all cost.

Gorman/DH
Saggesse/2B

Saggese (.471 .444 .647 1.092) in the #2 hole

I agree. Right now, Saggese would be as good of a choice as any at #2. Burleson at #5 and Contreras at #6.

Sorry shady but Bumbles shouldn't even be in the lineup now that Gorman back and he can DH.

Your guy Burleson has exactly ZERO (0) Home Runs in his last 195 PA'S!

The only thing is, the Cardinals have had strikeout issues at #2. It's curtailed some potential rallies. Burly usually makes contact. It is perplexing that he doesn't provide more power.

Burleson does indeed have excellent bat-to-ball skills, although starting mid 2024 he's started to swing at way, way too many pitches outside the zone and it's affected his performance.

Right now Saggesse is the OBVIOUS answer in the #2 hole and he should be playing every game w/Winn out (again, what's happened to "Play the Kids"?).

Why Oli continues to fail at lineup construction will be one of the main reasons C. Bloom fires him.

It's seems Burleson has been taking quite a few walks this season. But he needs to produce more power. As do Contreras, Arenado and Walker.

Burleson has three walks this season. That matches his XBH total. Yet Oli thinks he walks on water.

I could be wrong. But Burleson appears to be more selective this season at the plate than in the past.

His swing% and swing% at outside the zone pitches are career highs. He’s not been more selective. They’ve only gotten worse every year of his career.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:14 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:13 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:11 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:08 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:02 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:51 am

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 10:05 am Oli is loving his fat slow players batting 2nd.

Again, who should be hitting second, (A female canine animal, especially a dog)?

Not the fat singles hitter with the 2nd most GDPs on the team and T-7th best OBP in the lineup. The only player with a lower OBP in the lineup is VS2, but at least he can hit for XBHs and has speed.

So no actual answer just (bleep). Suits you

Saggese (.471 .444 .647 1.092) in the #2 hole

Thank you. I appreciate an actual option vs just whining. Concern is lefty/lefty but with Wheeler, it would be good

Huh?

Saggese is a righthanded hitter

Lol. I was just looking at JJs last few games and my brain took a pitstop.

What a dumb[ash] I am

No biggie

I'm going to even give you a second option for the #2 hole, when he returns I. Hererra/RHH'er (.381 .458 1.048 1.506)!

He has solid sprint speed (26.5) so he won't clog up the bases like the 285 lb Clydesdale Baker (24.7) or Bumbles (24.0).

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:22 pm

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:20 pm

Mort Gage wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:01 pm

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:52 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:49 am

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:45 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:41 am

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:34 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:31 am Thx duce

Oli's got to get Bumbles (.689 OPS) in there at all cost.

Gorman/DH
Saggesse/2B

Saggese (.471 .444 .647 1.092) in the #2 hole

I agree. Right now, Saggese would be as good of a choice as any at #2. Burleson at #5 and Contreras at #6.

Sorry shady but Bumbles shouldn't even be in the lineup now that Gorman back and he can DH.

Your guy Burleson has exactly ZERO (0) Home Runs in his last 195 PA'S!

The only thing is, the Cardinals have had strikeout issues at #2. It's curtailed some potential rallies. Burly usually makes contact. It is perplexing that he doesn't provide more power.

Burleson does indeed have excellent bat-to-ball skills, although starting mid 2024 he's started to swing at way, way too many pitches outside the zone and it's affected his performance.

Right now Saggesse is the OBVIOUS answer in the #2 hole and he should be playing every game w/Winn out (again, what's happened to "Play the Kids"?).

Why Oli continues to fail at lineup construction will be one of the main reasons C. Bloom fires him.

It's seems Burleson has been taking quite a few walks this season. But he needs to produce more power. As do Contreras, Arenado and Walker.

Burleson has three walks this season. That matches his XBH total. Yet Oli thinks he walks on water.

I could be wrong. But Burleson appears to be more selective this season at the plate than in the past.

His swing% and swing% at outside the zone pitches are career highs. He’s not been more selective. They’ve only gotten worse every year of his career.

Same issue with Contreras, Arenado and Walker.

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:17 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:07 pm

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:52 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:49 am

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:45 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:41 am

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:34 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:31 am Thx duce

Oli's got to get Bumbles (.689 OPS) in there at all cost.

Gorman/DH
Saggesse/2B

Saggese (.471 .444 .647 1.092) in the #2 hole

I agree. Right now, Saggese would be as good of a choice as any at #2. Burleson at #5 and Contreras at #6.

Sorry shady but Bumbles shouldn't even be in the lineup now that Gorman back and he can DH.

Your guy Burleson has exactly ZERO (0) Home Runs in his last 195 PA'S!

The only thing is, the Cardinals have had strikeout issues at #2. It's curtailed some potential rallies. Burly usually makes contact. It is perplexing that he doesn't provide more power.

Burleson does indeed have excellent bat-to-ball skills, although starting mid 2024 he's started to swing at way, way too many pitches outside the zone and it's affected his performance.

Right now Saggesse is the OBVIOUS answer in the #2 hole and he should be playing every game w/Winn out (again, what's happened to "Play the Kids"?).

Why Oli continues to fail at lineup construction will be one of the main reasons C. Bloom fires him.

It's seems Burleson has been taking quite a few walks this season. But he needs to produce more power. As do Contreras, Arenado and Walker.

He's not here to draw walks, he's here for extra base hit power.

His .308 xSLG is disturbing.

Please evaluate Contreras', Arenado's and Walker's current slugging.

Not good for sure

But WillyC and NADO are established major league all-stars, Walker one of the top rated prospects while in the minor leagues and only 22 yrs old.

Bumbles turns 27 yrs old at years end, his .400 career slg% is trending in the wrong direction.

He's not an everyday player since he can't hit LHP.

I think he'll be a throw in (via a trade) this winter when he loses Mo/Oli.

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:22 pm

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:20 pm

Mort Gage wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:01 pm

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:52 am It's seems Burleson has been taking quite a few walks this season. But he needs to produce more power. As do Contreras, Arenado and Walker.

Burleson has three walks this season. That matches his XBH total. Yet Oli thinks he walks on water.

I could be wrong. But Burleson appears to be more selective this season at the plate than in the past.

His swing% and swing% at outside the zone pitches are career highs. He’s not been more selective. They’ve only gotten worse every year of his career.

And thus far he’s had pretty good batted-ball luck: .279 BA vs .217 xBA, .304 wOBA vs .257 xwOBA, with a 0.0% barrel rate.

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:25 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:22 pm

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:20 pm

Mort Gage wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:01 pm

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:52 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:49 am

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:45 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:41 am

Shady wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:34 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:31 am Thx duce

Oli's got to get Bumbles (.689 OPS) in there at all cost.

Gorman/DH
Saggesse/2B

Saggese (.471 .444 .647 1.092) in the #2 hole

I agree. Right now, Saggese would be as good of a choice as any at #2. Burleson at #5 and Contreras at #6.

Sorry shady but Bumbles shouldn't even be in the lineup now that Gorman back and he can DH.

Your guy Burleson has exactly ZERO (0) Home Runs in his last 195 PA'S!

The only thing is, the Cardinals have had strikeout issues at #2. It's curtailed some potential rallies. Burly usually makes contact. It is perplexing that he doesn't provide more power.

Burleson does indeed have excellent bat-to-ball skills, although starting mid 2024 he's started to swing at way, way too many pitches outside the zone and it's affected his performance.

Right now Saggesse is the OBVIOUS answer in the #2 hole and he should be playing every game w/Winn out (again, what's happened to "Play the Kids"?).

Why Oli continues to fail at lineup construction will be one of the main reasons C. Bloom fires him.

It's seems Burleson has been taking quite a few walks this season. But he needs to produce more power. As do Contreras, Arenado and Walker.

Burleson has three walks this season. That matches his XBH total. Yet Oli thinks he walks on water.

I could be wrong. But Burleson appears to be more selective this season at the plate than in the past.

His swing% and swing% at outside the zone pitches are career highs. He’s not been more selective. They’ve only gotten worse every year of his career.

Same issue with Contreras, Arenado and Walker.

Wrong

Walker is at the lowest outside the zone% (27.9%) and swing% (47.4%) of his career
Arenado is slightly above his career norms, but not a career high and not an issue at 32% in outside the zone swing% but his swing% of 46.6% is the lowest of his career
Contreras I will give you though as his 37.9% outside the zone% and 51.3% swing% are career highs. Probably part of why he’s sucked.

But few like swinging the bat as much as Burleson, who’s swung at 44% of the outside the zone pitches and swung the bat 56.4% of the time.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:23 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:14 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:13 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:11 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:08 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:02 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:51 am

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 10:05 am Oli is loving his fat slow players batting 2nd.

Again, who should be hitting second, (A female canine animal, especially a dog)?

Not the fat singles hitter with the 2nd most GDPs on the team and T-7th best OBP in the lineup. The only player with a lower OBP in the lineup is VS2, but at least he can hit for XBHs and has speed.

So no actual answer just (bleep). Suits you

Saggese (.471 .444 .647 1.092) in the #2 hole

Thank you. I appreciate an actual option vs just whining. Concern is lefty/lefty but with Wheeler, it would be good

Huh?

Saggese is a righthanded hitter

Lol. I was just looking at JJs last few games and my brain took a pitstop.

What a dumb[ash] I am

No biggie

I'm going to even give you a second option for the #2 hole, when he returns I. Hererra/RHH'er (.381 .458 1.048 1.506)!

He has solid sprint speed (26.5) so he won't clog up the bases like the 285 lb Clydesdale Baker (24.7) or Bumbles (24.0).

All for it...amazing how well Cards catchers are hitting

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:59 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:23 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:14 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:13 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:11 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:08 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:07 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 12:02 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 11:51 am

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 10:05 am Oli is loving his fat slow players batting 2nd.

Again, who should be hitting second, (A female canine animal, especially a dog)?

Not the fat singles hitter with the 2nd most GDPs on the team and T-7th best OBP in the lineup. The only player with a lower OBP in the lineup is VS2, but at least he can hit for XBHs and has speed.

So no actual answer just (bleep). Suits you

Saggese (.471 .444 .647 1.092) in the #2 hole

Thank you. I appreciate an actual option vs just whining. Concern is lefty/lefty but with Wheeler, it would be good

Huh?

Saggese is a righthanded hitter

Lol. I was just looking at JJs last few games and my brain took a pitstop.

What a dumb[ash] I am

No biggie

I'm going to even give you a second option for the #2 hole, when he returns I. Hererra/RHH'er (.381 .458 1.048 1.506)!

He has solid sprint speed (26.5) so he won't clog up the bases like the 285 lb Clydesdale Baker (24.7) or Bumbles (24.0).

All for it...amazing how well Cards catchers are hitting

#1 in MLB!

6 HR
20 RBI
.356 .397 .763 1.160

And more coming down below too!

C. Bloom is going to have some trade chips if a trade partner needs a receiver.

Hope that Libby can avoid the big inning today that has plagued both of his first 2 starts.

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 13:12 pm Hope that Libby can avoid the big inning today that has plagued both of his first 2 starts.

I’m betting walks were involved.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 13:13 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025 13:12 pm Hope that Libby can avoid the big inning today that has plagued both of his first 2 starts.

I’m betting walks were involved.

12.1 IP, 0 BB.

An anomalous .351 BABIP-against and sequencing have been the main problems.