Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
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Re: Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
Last five games. 26 IP -little over five per game. Against KC Mil Balt Cinn Toronto . Most hits in hose games is 7. Seven total walks in those five games, four runs twice, two once, zero last night. Team is 3-2 in these five starts.
What more from a four do we need.
What more from a four do we need.
Re: Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
STL will lose Fedde and Mikolas this fall.
Matz as well.
2 rotation spots open and one depth piece gone too.
McGreevy can only fill one of those starter roles.
Pallante is indeed a solid #4 and that will come in handy.
Matz as well.
2 rotation spots open and one depth piece gone too.
McGreevy can only fill one of those starter roles.
Pallante is indeed a solid #4 and that will come in handy.
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Re: Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
He pitches into the fifth inning plus every game. Allows 4 or less. Team is 3-2 in these Number five slot games. Strong number 4/5. And his K’s are starting to increase.
If he becomes a strikeout threat with his few walks, could become a mid rotation power.
Re: Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
Next season -sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:03 amHe pitches into the fifth inning plus every game. Allows 4 or less. Team is 3-2 in these Number five slot games. Strong number 4/5. And his K’s are starting to increase.
If he becomes a strikeout threat with his few walks, could become a mid rotation power.
Gray
Pallante
Liberatore
McGreevy
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Will it be Mathews? Roby? Hence? Henderson? Someone from outside?
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Most likely from outside. A free agent. If any existing. Or. It could be a bat. Need a bat.Cranny wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:09 amNext season -sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:03 amHe pitches into the fifth inning plus every game. Allows 4 or less. Team is 3-2 in these Number five slot games. Strong number 4/5. And his K’s are starting to increase.
If he becomes a strikeout threat with his few walks, could become a mid rotation power.
Gray
Pallante
Liberatore
McGreevy
?
Will it be Mathews? Roby? Hence? Henderson? Someone from outside?
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Re: Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
I was there last night BDog and like he's done throughout his career your guy Pallante was matserful.
Now if we could just start him vs the Reds................
Now if we could just start him vs the Reds................

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Re: Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
Was he good? Why then was he pulled after six at 87 pitches. And then use five total pitchers.rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:23 am I was there last night BDog and like he's done throughout his career your guy Pallante was matserful.
Now if we could just start him vs the Reds................![]()
Why not start him in seventh. King about blew it.
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First priority should probably be an outfield bat.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:13 amMost likely from outside. A free agent. If any existing. Or. It could be a bat. Need a bat.Cranny wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:09 amNext season -sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:03 amHe pitches into the fifth inning plus every game. Allows 4 or less. Team is 3-2 in these Number five slot games. Strong number 4/5. And his K’s are starting to increase.
If he becomes a strikeout threat with his few walks, could become a mid rotation power.
Gray
Pallante
Liberatore
McGreevy
?
Will it be Mathews? Roby? Hence? Henderson? Someone from outside?
Maybe an older guy on a short term contact (ala
Beltran and Berkman).
Re: Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
As a friend of mine said, pulling your starter after 6 innings is just the way MLB is now.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:26 amWas he good? Why then was he pulled after six at 87 pitches. And then use five total pitchers.rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:23 am I was there last night BDog and like he's done throughout his career your guy Pallante was matserful.
Now if we could just start him vs the Reds................![]()
Why not start him in seventh. King about blew it.
Re: Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
The team has needed a corner outfield bat for longer than a decade.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:13 amMost likely from outside. A free agent. If any existing. Or. It could be a bat. Need a bat.Cranny wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:09 amNext season -sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:03 amHe pitches into the fifth inning plus every game. Allows 4 or less. Team is 3-2 in these Number five slot games. Strong number 4/5. And his K’s are starting to increase.
If he becomes a strikeout threat with his few walks, could become a mid rotation power.
Gray
Pallante
Liberatore
McGreevy
?
Will it be Mathews? Roby? Hence? Henderson? Someone from outside?
It is truly incredible that Mo has failed to address that.
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Re: Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
I was hoping Herrea to be that for left but I may rethink that. Injuries. Need a bat at third. And with Walkers demise maybe in right.Cranny wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:27 amFirst priority should probably be an outfield bat.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:13 amMost likely from outside. A free agent. If any existing. Or. It could be a bat. Need a bat.Cranny wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:09 amNext season -sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:03 amHe pitches into the fifth inning plus every game. Allows 4 or less. Team is 3-2 in these Number five slot games. Strong number 4/5. And his K’s are starting to increase.
If he becomes a strikeout threat with his few walks, could become a mid rotation power.
Gray
Pallante
Liberatore
McGreevy
?
Will it be Mathews? Roby? Hence? Henderson? Someone from outside?
Maybe an older guy on a short term contact (ala
Beltran and Berkman).
What Walker was to solve may backfire and become a need.
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Re: Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
Outstanding like he's been his whole career vs the Reds who he owns!sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:26 amWas he good? Why then was he pulled after six at 87 pitches. And then use five total pitchers.rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:23 am I was there last night BDog and like he's done throughout his career your guy Pallante was matserful.
Now if we could just start him vs the Reds................![]()
Why not start him in seventh. King about blew it.
OMGosh BDog it was soooooooooooooooooo hot, I was melting and felt really bad for the guys.
I was actually surprised Oli sent him out there for the 7th, glad to see him rescue him from the heat after the base hit.
King may need to go, he's bee horrible now for a while
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Thanx nice roll up. So he did see the seventh. Ok I’m good.rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:32 amOutstanding like he's been his whole career vs the Reds who he owns!sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:26 amWas he good? Why then was he pulled after six at 87 pitches. And then use five total pitchers.rockondlouie wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:23 am I was there last night BDog and like he's done throughout his career your guy Pallante was matserful.
Now if we could just start him vs the Reds................![]()
Why not start him in seventh. King about blew it.
OMGosh BDog it was soooooooooooooooooo hot, I was melting and felt really bad for the guys.
I was actually surprised Oli sent him out there for the 7th, glad to see him rescue him from the heat after the base hit.
King may need to go, he's bee horrible now for a while
Yes hot. First heat wave rattles the senses. Wait till today- 98 in the sun for day game. Will be brutal.
Re: Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
As it stands currently, STL will be thin concerning established starting pitchers next year.Cranny wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:09 amNext season -sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:03 amHe pitches into the fifth inning plus every game. Allows 4 or less. Team is 3-2 in these Number five slot games. Strong number 4/5. And his K’s are starting to increase.
If he becomes a strikeout threat with his few walks, could become a mid rotation power.
Gray
Pallante
Liberatore
McGreevy
?
Will it be Mathews? Roby? Hence? Henderson? Someone from outside?
Can't see them betting too heavily on Hence or Roby, given the history of those 2.
Talent is there - but huge questions of reliability.
Don't think they will want to count on Mathews from opening day either.
They would probably prefer to take the McGreevy route initially.
Finally, there is a huge gap between Gray and the rest of the scrum.
My guess is they go outside for a #2.
Re: Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
Makes sense, but not a long term FA contract for a #2, with Mathews, Hence, and Roby in the wings. BDW doesn’t think that way.Melville wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:38 amAs it stands currently, STL will be thin concerning established starting pitchers next year.Cranny wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:09 amNext season -sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:03 amHe pitches into the fifth inning plus every game. Allows 4 or less. Team is 3-2 in these Number five slot games. Strong number 4/5. And his K’s are starting to increase.
If he becomes a strikeout threat with his few walks, could become a mid rotation power.
Gray
Pallante
Liberatore
McGreevy
?
Will it be Mathews? Roby? Hence? Henderson? Someone from outside?
Can't see them betting too heavily on Hence or Roby, given the history of those 2.
Talent is there - but huge questions of reliability.
Don't think they will want to count on Mathews from opening day either.
They would probably prefer to take the McGreevy route initially.
Finally, there is a huge gap between Gray and the rest of the scrum.
My guess is they go outside for a #2.
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Re: Will Pallante be a Cardinal Ace, or a league Ace.
The key words there are long term. These days, long term is riddles with opt outs and NTC, they rarely run their terms.Cranny wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:49 amMakes sense, but not a long term FA contract for a #2, with Mathews, Hence, and Roby in the wings. BDW doesn’t think that way.Melville wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:38 amAs it stands currently, STL will be thin concerning established starting pitchers next year.Cranny wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:09 amNext season -sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 08:03 amHe pitches into the fifth inning plus every game. Allows 4 or less. Team is 3-2 in these Number five slot games. Strong number 4/5. And his K’s are starting to increase.
If he becomes a strikeout threat with his few walks, could become a mid rotation power.
Gray
Pallante
Liberatore
McGreevy
?
Will it be Mathews? Roby? Hence? Henderson? Someone from outside?
Can't see them betting too heavily on Hence or Roby, given the history of those 2.
Talent is there - but huge questions of reliability.
Don't think they will want to count on Mathews from opening day either.
They would probably prefer to take the McGreevy route initially.
Finally, there is a huge gap between Gray and the rest of the scrum.
My guess is they go outside for a #2.