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Who do you replace him with?smilinjoefission wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 19:47 pmMo, marmot, starting staff, cowpen (only a couple of bulls), holes in the line-up, yeah its not just one person or one thing, its rot throughout...but, marmot loses ALOT more games because of his managing than he wins...that is an easy fix.
Siani is fast — very fast — but no way should he have been sent in that case. He was out by a lot.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 16:43 pmAnd Pop Warner for sending Siani. That should have been our win right there.hullie wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 16:40 pmSo he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.
I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
+1WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.
I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
Obviously you did not read my post.hullie wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 16:40 pmSo he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.
I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
So Cards would have scored runs if Oli left the pitcher in?WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑10 Apr 2025 08:53 amObviously you did not read my post.hullie wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 16:40 pmSo he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.
I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
Try harder.
I did. 88 pitches. How many do you think he would go this early in the year? Offense sucked.WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑10 Apr 2025 08:53 amObviously you did not read my post.hullie wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 16:40 pmSo he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.
I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
Try harder.
as much as I'd like to pile on Oli cuz I really think he's bad.........IndCard75 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 19:44 pm Oli didn’t help today but I can’t totally blame him for the loss.
He should have let Fedde start the 7th imo. Our bullpen isn’t deep enough to pull SP early and win a lot.
But it wasn’t his fault we didn’t score.
Couldn’t leave Matz in longer. He pitched yesterday and pitched 3 plus innings on 4/5.
Saggese poor baserunning in 9th.
Siani shouldn’t have been sent in 10th.
So imo can’t blame all this one on Oli.
As many as it take for him to give up a hit. Wouldn't have been better to have those 5 pitchers later in the game?hullie wrote: ↑10 Apr 2025 13:26 pmI did. 88 pitches. How many do you think he would go this early in the year? Offense sucked.WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑10 Apr 2025 08:53 amObviously you did not read my post.hullie wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 16:40 pmSo he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.
I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
Try harder.
Yeah, like he has the same autonomy, not to mention rosters, they had. Get it though your thick skull that, with very few exceptions, the days of Whitey and TLR are long gone in MLB.rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Apr 2025 08:49 am+1WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.
I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
I've been asking his defenders for a couple years, "What does Oli do to WIN games for the team ala Whitey and TLR"?
The answer is absolutely NOTHING.
Worst we've ever been subjected to in St. Louis.
Not hardly red baronRed7 wrote: ↑10 Apr 2025 14:52 pmYeah, like he has the same autonomy, not to mention rosters, they had. Get it though your thick skull that, with very few exceptions, the days of Whitey and TLR are long gone in MLB.rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Apr 2025 08:49 am+1WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.
I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
I've been asking his defenders for a couple years, "What does Oli do to WIN games for the team ala Whitey and TLR"?
The answer is absolutely NOTHING.
Worst we've ever been subjected to in St. Louis.
Whitey wouldna done it that awayWeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.
I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
Pretty rare for a manager to "entirely" win or lose a game.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 16:43 pmAnd Pop Warner for sending Siani. That should have been our win right there.hullie wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 16:40 pmSo he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.
I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
Yea, that one decision completely changed the inning and game. Instead of 1st and 3rd with 0 outs (which would have significantly increased our chances to score more than 1 run), it became just a runner on 1st with 1 out.renostl wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 11:01 amPretty rare for a manager to "entirely" win or lose a game.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 16:43 pmAnd Pop Warner for sending Siani. That should have been our win right there.hullie wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 16:40 pmSo he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.
I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
Yeah Pop gave away an out there.
IMO, IF Saggese had either busted it from 3rd on WC pop up or fell over the guys laying in the path
to home without the ball then this thread doesn't exist.
As I remember..rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Apr 2025 08:49 am+1WeWentBlues0819 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.
I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
I've been asking his defenders for a couple years, "What does Oli do to WIN games for the team ala Whitey and TLR"?
The answer is absolutely NOTHING.
Worst we've ever been subjected to in St. Louis.