Marmol said Monday that the club is discussing using a six-man rotation

[82birds]

When they finally push Matz to the bullpen, the 6-man also opens a spot for Libby to start ... and answer the question.

They also should've traded Fedde and opened a spot. What they should do and what they do are 2 different things.

no kidding !

[cardstatman]

Creative thinking would be nice.

Seven man rotation; they all still pitch every 5th game but with less pressure to make it into the 6th/7th.
RH Gray 5+
RH Fedde 5+
RH Pallante 5 / LH Matz 4; low bullpen usage; maybe use a closer in a 1-run 9th inning.
RH Mikolas 5+
RH McGreevy 5 / LH Liberatore 4; low bullpen usage; maybe use a closer in a 1-run 9th inning.

Use the LH starters as piggy back starters so the opponent cannot stack RH batters against them.
If any starter is lagging you always have 2 more ready to step in.

Six man bullpen:
Helsley, Maton, Fernandez, Romero, King, Leahy
The six-man bullpen stays fresh because they get very light duty in 2 of every 5 games.

[Dazepster]

Support fully provided McGreevey is one of the 6. And until such time as he is one of the 5.

My Fantasy Team needs demand it!!!

[imyourhuckleberry]

With a day off per week to start the season, this means one start per week each, or once every 7 days. That's too long to get a starting pitcher into a rhythm for the year. Stop screwing around and just pick the 5 starters to go with. He risks screwing up everybody because he can't make a damned decision.

On the other hand, depending on how long they do it, it wouldn’t be the worst thing. Our top 3 starters would go against

Minnesota
Boston
Philadelphia
New York Mets
Atlanta (1)
Milwaukee (2)
Cincinnati (2)

our bottom 3 would go against
LA Angels
Pittsburgh
Houston
Atlanta (2)
Milwaukee (1)
Cincinnati (2)

of course that’s a good thing only if they aligned the top 3 starters right and the bottom 3 starters right. If it’s Gray-Mikolas-Matz top 3 to open, it would be terrible.

A rainout or two, likely to occur in April, throws the plan off though.

I've never been a fan of the 6-man idea, but even so it would be an innovative step (if committed to fully) and the Cardinals are anything but innovative these days. They'll talk about it and say they're considering it but when it comes time to [shirt] or get off the pot, they'll choose the latter. This is nothing but talk.

[imetsatchelpaige]

Please don't screw with McGreevy

EXACTLY. Right after they say they won't use him in the bullpen.
Classic stupid.

[Dazepster]

Triple A is thin.

Money due them requires Gray, Matz and Mikolas eat innings.

Pallante has earned a spot based off his work Post last ASB.

Libby has had a great spring and Moe needs him to deliver a parting gift of a season. He might get that 5th role.

Several off days in first month would make a 6 man rotation a challenge to employ.

I think my boy McGreevey gets sent out to front Trip A and is 1st Man Up..and likely sooner rather than later.

[thetank2]

When they finally push Matz to the bullpen, the 6-man also opens a spot for Libby to start ... and answer the question.

They also should've traded Fedde and opened a spot. What they should do and what they do are 2 different things.

no kidding !

You can spin any decision they make?

[Dicktar2023]

When starters actually went 6-7+ innings I was completely against the 6 -man.

But starting the last few years, with starters barely getting past the 5th inning, I've warned up to it.

Gray
Fedde
Pallante
Mikolas
Matz
McGreevey

Push them deeper into games since they have an extra days rest.

There is zero chance The Marrmot would do that.

Except...if he can grip a baseball, Mikolas will pitch 150+ innings this season.

[hugeCardfan]

Please don't screw with McGreevy

Amen

[ecleme22]

When starters actually went 6-7+ innings I was completely against the 6 -man.

But starting the last few years, with starters barely getting past the 5th inning, I've warned up to it.

Gray
Fedde
Pallante
Mikolas
Matz
McGreevey

Push them deeper into games since they have an extra days rest.

Usually starters are removed because they are ineffective, fatigued, or it’s the 3rd time through the order.

An extra days rest won’t suddenly make starters more effective.

[82birds]

pretty good article in the PD this morning about this by Lynn Worthy.

[Melville]

When starters actually went 6-7+ innings I was completely against the 6 -man.

But starting the last few years, with starters barely getting past the 5th inning, I've warned up to it.

Gray
Fedde
Pallante
Mikolas
Matz
McGreevey

Push them deeper into games since they have an extra days rest.

There is zero chance The Marrmot would do that.

Not smart enough? I agree.

The Marmot believes covering 5 innings is a complete game for a starter.
He may extend someone for a few more outs from time to time, but his guiding mindset is "5 and done".

Is he the only one doing this?

Nope.

[AnthonyS]

Some seem to forget we aren’t trying to win this season. It’s about finding out who to keep.

They can’t just give away Fedde, after giving up Tommy. That would be stupid.

Their hope is one of the old guys gets off to a hot start and some team that is trying to win, loses a pitcher so we can trade them.

[Goldfan]

Some seem to forget we aren’t trying to win this season. It’s about finding out who to keep.

They can’t just give away Fedde, after giving up Tommy. That would be stupid.

Their hope is one of the old guys gets off to a hot start and some team that is trying to win, loses a pitcher so we can trade them.

So its more important to HOPE an old SP gets off to to a hot start than to actually give a young deserving SP the opportunity to that was promised in the offseason…….these boners came out and declared YOUTH would play in ‘25…..I didn’t say it….you didn’t say it
And now season starting and rotation is
Miles OLD
Gray OLD
Matz OLD
Fedde OLD

This is nowhere close to anything resembling YOUTH. McGreevy NEEDs be there and maybe 1-2 other kids should get a shot at ML experience
WHEN YOU CAME OUT PUBLICLY STATED THAT YOUTH WILL PLAY

[Bomber1]

When starters actually went 6-7+ innings I was completely against the 6 -man.

But starting the last few years, with starters barely getting past the 5th inning, I've warned up to it.

Gray
Fedde
Pallante
Mikolas
Matz
McGreevey

Push them deeper into games since they have an extra days rest.

There is zero chance The Marrmot would do that.

Not smart enough? I agree.

The Marmot believes covering 5 innings is a complete game for a starter.
He may extend someone for a few more outs from time to time, but his guiding mindset is "5 and done".

Is he the only one doing this?

Why don’t you check and see?

[Cardinals4Life]

Cardinals manager Oliver Marmol said Monday that the club is discussing using a six-man rotation to begin the season, with McGreevy serving as the sixth starter, John Denton of MLB.com reports.

Utilizing a six-man rotation would add a spot for McGreevy, who could swing back-and-forth between starting and relieving, per Denton. Utilizing a six-man rotation would add a spot for McGreevy, who could swing back-and-forth between starting and relieving, per Denton.

That's one way to keep McGreevy.
We shall see....

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseb ... -rotation/

Question....
If McGreevy is kept in STL and they roll with a 6 man rotation, who gets bumped from the pen?