2025 record prediction

[sikeston bulldog2]

They ridded themselves of zero offensive players, zero defensive players, two mediocre relievers, and maybe a stud closer.

Therefore it’s the same 55 win team. I’m seeing a lot of give up and quit it seems, but may also see a win here and there. 81 wins.

Maton was far from "mediocre" BDog, he was having a terrific season.

Just a guess but they look like team who's spirit is broken, they know they're not a playoff team and will just play out the string.

Mediocre reference a return, and maybe mediocre meaning under valued by other teams.

Gotcha

On expiring contracts, I think C. Bloom did well getting what he got for the three.

I believe he did. Want to see him operate on his own two feet come off season.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Getting close to end of season . 33 games to go I believe. One game under.

Next 12 games- rays pirates reds A ‘s. I’m at 81-81 for season. This 12 game stretch goes a long way to achieve my .500.

[OldRed]

Getting close to end of season . 33 games to go I believe. One game under.

Next 12 games- rays pirates reds A ‘s. I’m at 81-81 for season. This 12 game stretch goes a long way to achieve my .500.

I was 81 - 81 also. It will be close for sure.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Getting close to end of season . 33 games to go I believe. One game under.

Next 12 games- rays pirates reds A ‘s. I’m at 81-81 for season. This 12 game stretch goes a long way to achieve my .500.

I was 81 - 81 also. It will be close for sure.

Does a .500 record after a losing year, in a reset, get the manager another year.

[Basil Shabazz]

This is like throwing darts IMO. I can honestly see anywhere between 75 wins and 90 wins.

I'll go 85-77 being an optimist. I just hope that isn't good enough to save Marmol's job. The record is contingent on Gray, Fedde, Pallante being + starters, bullpen remaining relatively healthy and the offense getting much needed production from Walker and Gorman.

Well, Fedde was a negative starter. Pallante is essentially a negative. Gray has been average. We have got nothing from Walker. Gorman seems to be on the upswing.

With all that said. I reserve the right to flip my prediction to 77-85.

[sikeston bulldog2]

This is like throwing darts IMO. I can honestly see anywhere between 75 wins and 90 wins.

I'll go 85-77 being an optimist. I just hope that isn't good enough to save Marmol's job. The record is contingent on Gray, Fedde, Pallante being + starters, bullpen remaining relatively healthy and the offense getting much needed production from Walker and Gorman.

Well, Fedde was a negative starter. Pallante is essentially a negative. Gray has been average. We have got nothing from Walker. Gorman seems to be on the upswing.

With all that said. I reserve the right to flip my prediction to 77-85.

Of course you can flip, the intent of the bump. As you noted, all that didn’t happen needed to happen. I’m sticking with .500

As for the managers job, a .500 in a reset with a season high nine games over, does he survive the cut.

[Basil Shabazz]

This is like throwing darts IMO. I can honestly see anywhere between 75 wins and 90 wins.

I'll go 85-77 being an optimist. I just hope that isn't good enough to save Marmol's job. The record is contingent on Gray, Fedde, Pallante being + starters, bullpen remaining relatively healthy and the offense getting much needed production from Walker and Gorman.

Well, Fedde was a negative starter. Pallante is essentially a negative. Gray has been average. We have got nothing from Walker. Gorman seems to be on the upswing.

With all that said. I reserve the right to flip my prediction to 77-85.

Of course you can flip, the intent of the bump. As you noted, all that didn’t happen needed to happen. I’m sticking with .500

As for the managers job, a .500 in a reset with a season high nine games over, does he survive the cut.

He wouldn't survive if I were in charge. Culture & leadership are necessary as we go through this process. I believe Oli is a flawed leader, is bad at in-game the in-the-moment decisions.

As much as I want to see JJW up and believe he should be up, I would seriously hesitate about bringing him up around this environment.

Oli needs to go. Bloom needs to hire a new manager and allow that manager to hire his own staff.

[sikeston bulldog2]

This is like throwing darts IMO. I can honestly see anywhere between 75 wins and 90 wins.

I'll go 85-77 being an optimist. I just hope that isn't good enough to save Marmol's job. The record is contingent on Gray, Fedde, Pallante being + starters, bullpen remaining relatively healthy and the offense getting much needed production from Walker and Gorman.

Well, Fedde was a negative starter. Pallante is essentially a negative. Gray has been average. We have got nothing from Walker. Gorman seems to be on the upswing.

With all that said. I reserve the right to flip my prediction to 77-85.

Of course you can flip, the intent of the bump. As you noted, all that didn’t happen needed to happen. I’m sticking with .500

As for the managers job, a .500 in a reset with a season high nine games over, does he survive the cut.

He wouldn't survive if I were in charge. Culture & leadership are necessary as we go through this process. I believe Oli is a flawed leader, is bad at in-game the in-the-moment decisions.

As much as I want to see JJW up and believe he should be up, I would seriously hesitate about bringing him up around this environment.

Oli needs to go. Bloom needs to hire a new manager and allow that manager to hire his own staff.

I see no reason to move JJ up. It’s a crowded house at second. He would not get regular at bats. That goes against rythm and sync. A hitter needs to hit daily.

As for setting him up for next year, 33 games wouldn’t do that much play wise. I leave him be.

If he is the real deal, ST will come soon enough.

[Basil Shabazz]

I'd disagree with you SBD. 30 games and 100 PAs would go a long way to helping JJW understand MLB baseball, get used to the different rhythm of the pitchers, the MLB travel schedule, etc. This would make him more comfortable going into the spring and 2026 season.

MLB pitchers are MLB pitchers because they can throw their pitches in any count and in any situation. Thus, the hitter cannot guess as much as he can in lower levels. I think JJW will be a stud player regardless. I think the 100 PA audition would make the beginning of 2026 much smoother and set him up for greater success.

[sikeston bulldog2]

I'd disagree with you SBD. 30 games and 100 PAs would go a long way to helping JJW understand MLB baseball, get used to the different rhythm of the pitchers, the MLB travel schedule, etc. This would make him more comfortable going into the spring and 2026 season.

MLB pitchers are MLB pitchers because they can throw their pitches in any count and in any situation. Thus, the hitter cannot guess as much as he can in lower levels. I think JJW will be a stud player regardless. I think the 100 PA audition would make the beginning of 2026 much smoother and set him up for greater success.

I hear ya. I noted, if he got regular playing time, to remain in sync and focused as he is now as an everyday play, then I’m ok.
But spot starts, pinch hits, and defensive replacement is not enough repetition to stay ML sharp.

Your 100 PA in 30 ish games, is about 3 plus per game. He’d have to play every day. That’s enough to establish rythm.

[rockondlouie]

I see no reason to move JJ up. It’s a crowded house at second. He would not get regular at bats. That goes against rythm and sync. A hitter needs to hit daily.

As for setting him up for next year, 33 games wouldn’t do that much play wise. I leave him be.

If he is the real deal, ST will come soon enough.

1) He'd get ALL the PA's at 2nd base, no way you sit the franchises #1 prospects who's tore up AA/AAA for Saggese who'll be lucky to make the team out of STing next season unless Donny is dealt.

And we've seen enough of Saggese (165 PA: .255 .293 .333 .626) to know what he is, JAG.

2) A solid month in MLB is GOLD for a young player (re: M. Winn's statement about his call up). Allows him to meet his teammates, find a place to live & learn the city, experience big league travel, the media, ect........

Knowing how stupid Mo is he probably won't bring up JJW, one final screw up by the idiot.

[sikeston bulldog2]

I see no reason to move JJ up. It’s a crowded house at second. He would not get regular at bats. That goes against rythm and sync. A hitter needs to hit daily.

As for setting him up for next year, 33 games wouldn’t do that much play wise. I leave him be.

If he is the real deal, ST will come soon enough.

1) He'd get ALL the PA's at 2nd base, no way you sit the franchises #1 prospects who's tore up AA/AAA for Saggese who'll be lucky to make the team out of STing next season unless Donny is dealt.

And we've seen enough of Saggese (165 PA: .255 .293 .333 .626) to know what he is, JAG.

2) A solid month in MLB is GOLD for a young player (re: M. Winn's statement about his call up). Allows him to meet his teammates, find a place to live & learn the city, experience big league travel, the media, ect........

Knowing how stupid Mo is he probably won't bring up JJW, one final screw up by the idiot.

A solid month. That means starting regularly. You know that won’t happen. Oli is known as the Cooler. Two ways to be an effective cooler- bench a hot hitter, or don’t play a player enough or irregular.

That’s my fear on your plan.

[rockondlouie]

I see no reason to move JJ up. It’s a crowded house at second. He would not get regular at bats. That goes against rythm and sync. A hitter needs to hit daily.

As for setting him up for next year, 33 games wouldn’t do that much play wise. I leave him be.

If he is the real deal, ST will come soon enough.

1) He'd get ALL the PA's at 2nd base, no way you sit the franchises #1 prospects who's tore up AA/AAA for Saggese who'll be lucky to make the team out of STing next season unless Donny is dealt.

And we've seen enough of Saggese (165 PA: .255 .293 .333 .626) to know what he is, JAG.

2) A solid month in MLB is GOLD for a young player (re: M. Winn's statement about his call up). Allows him to meet his teammates, find a place to live & learn the city, experience big league travel, the media, ect........

Knowing how stupid Mo is he probably won't bring up JJW, one final screw up by the idiot.

A solid month. That means starting regularly. You know that won’t happen. Oli is known as the Cooler. Two ways to be an effective cooler- bench a hot hitter, or don’t play a player enough or irregular.

That’s my fear on your plan.

You're right, Oli like his benefactor Mo, is an idiot.

[butsir01]

Said 76-86.
They csn make it if the don’t try.

[Hoosier59]

I don’t think they get to 80 wins, maybe 78. Our starting pitching just isn’t good enough to get to 80.
As to a JJ call up, it’s absolutely the right thing to do, but they won’t.
There has to be a Managerial change next season. The Cardinals are in dire need of a cultural change!
How have we seen enough of Saggese to know he’s nothing but a JAG? Since he has been getting regular playing time he has looked better. He was the AA player of the year two years ago, and was hitting .317 at AAA before his call up. He can play 3 infield positions and bats right handed. He will most likely be our bench guy next year, at the least!

[Rojo Johnson]

STL 90-72
CHC 89-73
CIN 87-75
MIL 81-81
PIT 78-84

I believe this prediction just set back the future of your GMness about 3 decades.

But, it appears you did get the Pirates’ position in the division correct, so you’ve got that going for you, which is nice.