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Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 14 Mar 2024 00:42 am
by An Old Friend
mattmitchl44 wrote: 13 Mar 2024 12:13 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 13 Mar 2024 11:39 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 13 Mar 2024 05:31 am
Quincy Varnish wrote: 12 Mar 2024 14:21 pm
mattmitchl44 wrote: 12 Mar 2024 14:10 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 12 Mar 2024 13:53 pm Thanks, Matt… interesting stuff. That OPS projection for my team is all wrong… AVG, I can believe it w/ Schwarber & Alonso but it still won’t be that bad.

Does it have the option to rank by 2023 stats?
Nope, it only looks to the future, not the past. :wink:
…nor does it account for adept in-season management. I had Schwarber most of last year - benched him while he was slumping. He logged an AVG about 30 points higher than his regular season, and I only missed out on 4 or 5 dingers.

If future projections were accurate, Jose Cruz Jr. would be planning a trip to Cooperstown this summer.
Drafting poorly so you can show off your in-season management skillz is A strategy, I suppose. :wink:
Wouldn’t say I drafted poorly, Matt. You’re going to learn some things about what Fantasy Pros did for your team this season…

What were the projections for Tyler O’Neill?
I don't recall of the top of my head. I didn't really want to draft him when I did, but it seemed like he'd been undervalued enough by that point to make it worth a flyer. I got him at pick #241.
If I don’t want to draft someone, I don’t draft them.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 14 Mar 2024 06:54 am
by An Old Friend
Cool Papa Con wrote: 14 Mar 2024 05:22 am
Quincy Varnish wrote: 13 Mar 2024 21:07 pm
Cool Papa Con wrote: 13 Mar 2024 12:00 pm I based my selections on a proprietary formula that incorporates WARf (Worship Acknowledgement Religiosity frequency)

It factors how many times a guy points to the sky or other forms of general acknowledgement of a higher power’s contributions to their success.

My team is #blessed
I thought you were only drafting players with less than 2 years service time, after the first few rounds. The process was more sophisticated than I realized.
In the Top 150, my only real gamble was Grayson Rodriguez. For the longest time, I had Logan Gilbert pencilled in, but at some point, I moved Gray Rod ahead of him.

I liked that he was the #11 overall pick, that he was a big framed pitcher (6’-5,” 230 lbs), and his MiLB numbers were stellar (29-9, 2.40 ERA, 0.966 WHIP, 12.4 SO). Logan Gilbert had a somewhat similar profile (6’-6,” 215lbs, #14 overall), but I just thought Rodriguez had the higher ceiling and less mileage on his arm.

I did get a little spooked in Gilbert’s uptick in ERA/FIP last year, and his Spring Training ERA was 14.21 (which doesn’t mean a lot). However, that coupled with a decent load of innings on his arm gave a slight edge to GrayRod.

I guess you could add Michael King to that statement about gambling, but he got a cup of coffee in 2019 and has pitched for the Yankees prior to converting to the rotation in spacious San Diego.

Padres' Updated Rotation, MLB Payroll After Dylan Cease Trade with White Sox
And that rotation is once again looking stacked. Cease will join Yu Darvish, Joe Musgrove and Michael King as guaranteed starters, while Randy Vásquez, Jhony Brito, Pedro Avila and Matt Waldron, among others, all compete for the final rotation spot.
Alvarez, Harper, former #1 Overall Pick Lewis Royce, Gray Rod, Bregman, SF Closer, LA Closer, Yainer Diaz, King (4 seasons, 28 yo), Ober (3 seasons, 28 yo)

Truthfully, I expected to draft Adley Rutschman (ADP 49) in the 3rd Round (#44), then Lewis, but Jeffy jumped the gun at 29 and snagged him.
Jeffy bailed you out on that!

My entire rotation is a gamble… not great strategy in hindsight…
Tarik Skubal
Eury Perez
Bobby Miller
Cole Ragans
Brandon Pfaadt
Erick Fedde
Jhony Brito
Frankie Montas

It’s like I was scared of any certainty / higher floor pitchers 😆

Could be elite just based on stuff alone… but the likelihood is quite low.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 14 Mar 2024 11:30 am
by An Old Friend
Cool Papa Con wrote: 14 Mar 2024 11:09 am
An Old Friend wrote: 14 Mar 2024 06:54 am My entire rotation is a gamble… not great strategy in hindsight…
Tarik Skubal
Eury Perez
Bobby Miller
Cole Ragans
Brandon Pfaadt
Erick Fedde
Jhony Brito
Frankie Montas

It’s like I was scared of any certainty / higher floor pitchers 😆

Could be elite just based on stuff alone… but the likelihood is quite low.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

If it makes you feel better, the only pitcher I was all in for was Skubal. I expected to take him as my first pitcher, so much so that I strayed away from Cole & Burnes when the opportunities presented themselves.

After that, I had Bobby Miller and maybe Fedde at least on a list of contingencies.

I’m curious how Pfaadt goes, because he was getting a TON of love, but I strayed away. I’m basically hoping Cody Bradford is that guy for me.

Both were “fine-wine” Rookies last year who didn’t look great in the Regular Season. Both had very good Post Season runs to the World Series. I was just more encouraged by what I saw in Spring Training and thought Bradford would be an easily overlooked but hidden gem (#317)
Pfaadt is interesting. I personally am NOT bullish on him, but he came up as a pursue name on pretty much every podcast I listened to. I typically stay away from guys who have shown to be so homerun prone, but he has always had big strikeout numbers with low walks and he "looks the part". Getting him in the 15th at pick 214 felt like value to me.

I honestly had to look up Cody Bradford, this is the first I've heard his name. Hopefully he works out for you... he's a command lefty without velo, so it'll be interesting to see if his stuff is enough.

You took Julien and Melendez when I had them queued up.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 14 Mar 2024 11:42 am
by Quincy Varnish
Cool Papa Con wrote: 14 Mar 2024 05:22 amI guess you could add Michael King to that statement about gambling, but he got a cup of coffee in 2019 and has pitched for the Yankees prior to converting to the rotation in spacious San Diego.
I’ve missed on King in three drafts now… thought he could be a later round weapon for me this year, but then the experts starting bumping up his rating. He could be special, but I’m skeptical he’ll make it through a full season w/o getting shut down or worse.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 08:22 am
by imadangman
Cool Papa Con wrote: 14 Mar 2024 05:22 am
Quincy Varnish wrote: 13 Mar 2024 21:07 pm
Cool Papa Con wrote: 13 Mar 2024 12:00 pm I based my selections on a proprietary formula that incorporates WARf (Worship Acknowledgement Religiosity frequency)

It factors how many times a guy points to the sky or other forms of general acknowledgement of a higher power’s contributions to their success.

My team is #blessed
I thought you were only drafting players with less than 2 years service time, after the first few rounds. The process was more sophisticated than I realized.
In the Top 150, my only real gamble was Grayson Rodriguez. For the longest time, I had Logan Gilbert pencilled in, but at some point, I moved Gray Rod ahead of him.

I liked that he was the #11 overall pick, that he was a big framed pitcher (6’-5,” 230 lbs), and his MiLB numbers were stellar (29-9, 2.40 ERA, 0.966 WHIP, 12.4 SO). Logan Gilbert had a somewhat similar profile (6’-6,” 215lbs, #14 overall), but I just thought Rodriguez had the higher ceiling and less mileage on his arm.

I did get a little spooked in Gilbert’s uptick in ERA/FIP last year, and his Spring Training ERA was 14.21 (which doesn’t mean a lot). However, that coupled with a decent load of innings on his arm gave a slight edge to GrayRod.

I guess you could add Michael King to that statement about gambling, but he got a cup of coffee in 2019 and has pitched for the Yankees prior to converting to the rotation in spacious San Diego.

Padres' Updated Rotation, MLB Payroll After Dylan Cease Trade with White Sox
And that rotation is once again looking stacked. Cease will join Yu Darvish, Joe Musgrove and Michael King as guaranteed starters, while Randy Vásquez, Jhony Brito, Pedro Avila and Matt Waldron, among others, all compete for the final rotation spot.
Alvarez, Harper, former #1 Overall Pick Lewis Royce, Gray Rod, Bregman, SF Closer, LA Closer, Yainer Diaz, King (4 seasons, 28 yo), Ober (3 seasons, 28 yo)

Truthfully, I expected to draft Adley Rutschman (ADP 49) in the 3rd Round (#44), then Lewis, but Jeffy jumped the gun at 29 and snagged him.
You beat the rest of us to Victor Scott II. Great Job.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 08:45 am
by imadangman
Cool Papa Con wrote: 15 Mar 2024 08:38 am
imadangman wrote: 15 Mar 2024 08:22 am
Cool Papa Con wrote: 14 Mar 2024 05:22 am
Quincy Varnish wrote: 13 Mar 2024 21:07 pm
Cool Papa Con wrote: 13 Mar 2024 12:00 pm I based my selections on a proprietary formula that incorporates WARf (Worship Acknowledgement Religiosity frequency)

It factors how many times a guy points to the sky or other forms of general acknowledgement of a higher power’s contributions to their success.

My team is #blessed
I thought you were only drafting players with less than 2 years service time, after the first few rounds. The process was more sophisticated than I realized.
In the Top 150, my only real gamble was Grayson Rodriguez. For the longest time, I had Logan Gilbert pencilled in, but at some point, I moved Gray Rod ahead of him.

I liked that he was the #11 overall pick, that he was a big framed pitcher (6’-5,” 230 lbs), and his MiLB numbers were stellar (29-9, 2.40 ERA, 0.966 WHIP, 12.4 SO). Logan Gilbert had a somewhat similar profile (6’-6,” 215lbs, #14 overall), but I just thought Rodriguez had the higher ceiling and less mileage on his arm.

I did get a little spooked in Gilbert’s uptick in ERA/FIP last year, and his Spring Training ERA was 14.21 (which doesn’t mean a lot). However, that coupled with a decent load of innings on his arm gave a slight edge to GrayRod.

I guess you could add Michael King to that statement about gambling, but he got a cup of coffee in 2019 and has pitched for the Yankees prior to converting to the rotation in spacious San Diego.

Padres' Updated Rotation, MLB Payroll After Dylan Cease Trade with White Sox
And that rotation is once again looking stacked. Cease will join Yu Darvish, Joe Musgrove and Michael King as guaranteed starters, while Randy Vásquez, Jhony Brito, Pedro Avila and Matt Waldron, among others, all compete for the final rotation spot.
Alvarez, Harper, former #1 Overall Pick Lewis Royce, Gray Rod, Bregman, SF Closer, LA Closer, Yainer Diaz, King (4 seasons, 28 yo), Ober (3 seasons, 28 yo)

Truthfully, I expected to draft Adley Rutschman (ADP 49) in the 3rd Round (#44), then Lewis, but Jeffy jumped the gun at 29 and snagged him.
You beat the rest of us to Victor Scott II. Great Job.
Honestly, I started thinking about how bad that OF was constructed, where they were essentially relying on Dylan Carlson to not be the Carlson of the last two years, and Tommy Edman recovering after a late surgery and it just didn’t make sense.

Add in Lars’ injury and Scott’s ST and I couldn’t see them keeping him off the Opening Day Roster, let alone lineup
The other day my plan was to grab him as a replacement for putting Esteury Ruiz in a deal. Honestly since we are all Cardinal fans I was surprised Scott II was even out there at that time. Don't know why I didn't just grab him.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 17:16 pm
by An Old Friend
Barking Lion wrote: 15 Mar 2024 14:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 10 Mar 2024 17:11 pm Best bullpen award def goes to Barking Lion

we need to talk, lol
I usually suck at pitching, so I prioritized it. But My offense has no power.
4 relievers and 5 starters… feels light.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 17:42 pm
by Quincy Varnish
Dazepster wrote: 15 Mar 2024 17:26 pm CPC,
Solid pick up of Scott. Went looking for him to place a claim and lo and behold you beat me to him. Call me Day Late Dollar Short Dazepster.

Should have moved sooner yet awaiting IL moves as I hate making a cut before any have had a sniff of action.
There’s a minor change to how FAs will be handled moving forward. All available players will be on waivers, with waiver claims processed nightly. The difference - if two managers place claims for the same player, it will be awarded to the manager with the highest waiver priority/FAB offer.

TBH - this is how I thought it was set from the beginning. I had waiver mode set to “standard”, believing that would be the same as Yahoo’s default settings in other leagues. It wasn’t, and that only became apparent after the post-draft waiver period expired.

This way is better.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 18:00 pm
by Quincy Varnish
Dazepster wrote: 15 Mar 2024 17:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 15 Mar 2024 17:42 pm
Dazepster wrote: 15 Mar 2024 17:26 pm CPC,
Solid pick up of Scott. Went looking for him to place a claim and lo and behold you beat me to him. Call me Day Late Dollar Short Dazepster.

Should have moved sooner yet awaiting IL moves as I hate making a cut before any have had a sniff of action.
There’s a minor change to how FAs will be handled moving forward. All available players will be on waivers, with waiver claims processed nightly. The difference - if two managers place claims for the same player, it will be awarded to the manager with the highest waiver priority/FAB offer.

TBH - this is how I thought it was set from the beginning. I had waiver mode set to “standard”, believing that would be the same as Yahoo’s default settings in other leagues. It wasn’t, and that only became apparent after the post-draft waiver period expired.

This way is better.
What happened previously? What will now happen?
FA players were immediately available to the first manager who placed a claim.

Now, there is a waiver process. If a manager places a claim, it will be processed overnight. This gives other managers the opportunity to also place a claim for the same player. That player will be awarded to the manager with the highest bid/waiver priority.

Example - Closer X blows a lead, and it becomes evident there’s a good chance he’s losing the job. His setup man now becomes MUCH more valuable b/c he’s likely to get more save opportunities. You and another manager both run to the player list to add the setup man. Now you both have a chance to add him, and it will be awarded to whoever has the highest priority/places the highest bid.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 18:06 pm
by Quincy Varnish
An Old Friend wrote: 15 Mar 2024 17:16 pm
Barking Lion wrote: 15 Mar 2024 14:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 10 Mar 2024 17:11 pm Best bullpen award def goes to Barking Lion

we need to talk, lol
I usually suck at pitching, so I prioritized it. But My offense has no power.
4 relievers and 5 starters… feels light.
He has 4 closers, and all of them are better than yours (and mine).

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 18:20 pm
by Quincy Varnish
Dazepster wrote: 15 Mar 2024 18:09 pm Perfect. Understood.

Should unwind and toss em all back and start fresh.

An unfair advantage possibly gained by some.

Had I placed a claim and missed a player that should have been awarded to be. I would be (upset).

Put it to a League Vote. I'm serious.
All those who object to the current system may make their voices heard. If enough people want it switched back, it will be switched back.

How is an unfair advantage gained? This is a much fairer system, IMO. The previous way - which was not the intended system - awarded players to whoever made it to their computer first. That’s dumb. It’s working now the way I described it would work, before we even drafted.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 18:28 pm
by Quincy Varnish
Cool Papa Con wrote: 15 Mar 2024 18:23 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 15 Mar 2024 17:42 pm
Dazepster wrote: 15 Mar 2024 17:26 pm CPC,
Solid pick up of Scott. Went looking for him to place a claim and lo and behold you beat me to him. Call me Day Late Dollar Short Dazepster.

Should have moved sooner yet awaiting IL moves as I hate making a cut before any have had a sniff of action.
There’s a minor change to how FAs will be handled moving forward. All available players will be on waivers, with waiver claims processed nightly. The difference - if two managers place claims for the same player, it will be awarded to the manager with the highest waiver priority/FAB offer.

TBH - this is how I thought it was set from the beginning. I had waiver mode set to “standard”, believing that would be the same as Yahoo’s default settings in other leagues. It wasn’t, and that only became apparent after the post-draft waiver period expired.

This way is better.
So, they are always on waivers? That kind of sucks.

It completely negates the punishment of drafting 14th when I have to use a waiver on a JAG simply because I want to claim someone off Free Agency.

I went to make a transaction and realized I had to put a Waiver in, when yesterday I didn’t.

Maybe make the waivers last for 12 hours or something after they play
Negates a punishment? How so?

Managers have a FAB budget for a reason… if you really want the player, you can place a higher bid.

There is no method to make players go on waivers “after they play”.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 18:39 pm
by Quincy Varnish
DJ Davis wrote: 15 Mar 2024 18:31 pm I’m cool with the change. I thought waivers was how it was supposed to be. I grabbed a few players before that in FA, thinking maybe I misread the post here.

I would not be cool with me having to drop those players now. It is what it is.
I wouldn’t ask anyone to drop players. That would be terrible.

We only had a few transactions after everyone cleared waivers. My apologies for the change, but I think it’s set the way it was expected, and as I explained it. Yahoo does not make it clear what “standard” waiver mode entails, and I think it was a fair assumption on my part that it would function as all their public leagues.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 18:52 pm
by Quincy Varnish
Dazepster wrote: 15 Mar 2024 18:40 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 15 Mar 2024 18:20 pm
Dazepster wrote: 15 Mar 2024 18:09 pm Perfect. Understood.

Should unwind and toss em all back and start fresh.

An unfair advantage possibly gained by some.

Had I placed a claim and missed a player that should have been awarded to be. I would be (upset).

Put it to a League Vote. I'm serious.
All those who object to the current system may make their voices heard. If enough people want it switched back, it will be switched back.

How is an unfair advantage gained? This is a much fairer system, IMO. The previous way - which was not the intended system - awarded players to whoever made it to their computer first. That’s dumb. It’s working now the way I described it would work, before we even drafted.
Agree 1 Million Percent. This is the only way to do it.

How an advantage. Post draft till now some have been awarded players that rightfully should have gone to other claimants. That is a Big F/U. Hard to conceive that in a Vanilla or OOTB set up it would default to that claim process. Stupid. But none of us had the foresight to check. Shame on us. We live and we learn.

But we shouldn't double down on stupid. Provided actual harm may have been done simply unwind and reset post draft claims.

If nobody has been harmed by losing a claim to a lower priority claim then no harm no foul proceed under new and correct set up.

Further Advantage.
The little details. Scott. I look to place a claim for semi-obvious reasons. See already awarded and don't place that claim. But i learn a few things. I probably lose a point in SB's. A certain poster gained a point and possibly a lot more.

At some point it isn't about players. Simply about numbers and where you can accumulate them.

Now I change my claim thought process and seek other avenues to earn a point.

And that's me. If others are paying attn it may influence what they have done post 1st incorrectly awarded waiver claim.

Toss em all back. Claim process starts anew. Award based on waiver priority standing at end of each day. As it should have been.
There’s really no way to do what you’re suggesting. There were only 9 transactions made post-waivers. Prior to that, all waiver claims were awarded following the rules of the current system.

I apologize for the confusion. I think this is the best way to resolve it. To my knowledge the only way to rewind it would be a full re-draft… I know none of us want that.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 18:56 pm
by An Old Friend
Quincy Varnish wrote: 15 Mar 2024 18:06 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 15 Mar 2024 17:16 pm
Barking Lion wrote: 15 Mar 2024 14:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 10 Mar 2024 17:11 pm Best bullpen award def goes to Barking Lion

we need to talk, lol
I usually suck at pitching, so I prioritized it. But My offense has no power.
4 relievers and 5 starters… feels light.
He has 4 closers, and all of them are better than yours (and mine).
Good for him. I hope he keeps it that way.

Re: CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 18:58 pm
by Quincy Varnish
DJ Davis wrote: 15 Mar 2024 18:52 pm
Cool Papa Con wrote: 15 Mar 2024 18:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 15 Mar 2024 18:28 pm
Cool Papa Con wrote: 15 Mar 2024 18:23 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 15 Mar 2024 17:42 pm
Dazepster wrote: 15 Mar 2024 17:26 pm CPC,
Solid pick up of Scott. Went looking for him to place a claim and lo and behold you beat me to him. Call me Day Late Dollar Short Dazepster.

Should have moved sooner yet awaiting IL moves as I hate making a cut before any have had a sniff of action.
There’s a minor change to how FAs will be handled moving forward. All available players will be on waivers, with waiver claims processed nightly. The difference - if two managers place claims for the same player, it will be awarded to the manager with the highest waiver priority/FAB offer.

TBH - this is how I thought it was set from the beginning. I had waiver mode set to “standard”, believing that would be the same as Yahoo’s default settings in other leagues. It wasn’t, and that only became apparent after the post-draft waiver period expired.

This way is better.
So, they are always on waivers? That kind of sucks.

It completely negates the punishment of drafting 14th when I have to use a waiver on a JAG simply because I want to claim someone off Free Agency.

I went to make a transaction and realized I had to put a Waiver in, when yesterday I didn’t.

Maybe make the waivers last for 12 hours or something after they play
Negates a punishment? How so?

Managers have a FAB budget for a reason… if you really want the player, you can place a higher bid.

There is no method to make players go on waivers “after they play”.
It’s useless if I win a $0 bid on a nobody that no one cares about. There’s a strategy to waiting for someone to clear waivers. For instance, I gambled and lost when Jeffy picked up Gavin Stone because I thought he might go unclaimed.

The great leveling of drafting last is you get first waiver. That doesn’t mean anything if it is immediately wasted on a $0 transaction that nobody wanted but you.

Its importance was already undercut when you only gain the upper hand on the rare chance both people apply the same waiver dollar amount. Now, having the top waiver means nothing if it has to be immediately used on any addition.

I have no problem with Waivers existing, but the rules suddenly changed unexpectedly, it severely weakened the one benefit of not drafting in the Top 5, and most MLB teams will allow a player to clear Waivers before signing them as a free agent.

If a team really wants the player, then they inherit the extra baggage. Most gamble they’ll clear waivers so as not to absorb the extra financial obligations that comes with claiming the player on waivers.
If nobody else wanted the player but you, and no claim was made by anyone but you, then you don’t lose the waiver priority.

I think that’s right. Correct me if I’m wrong, Quincy.

The only time your waiver resets is if someone else is trying to claim the same player that you want, and you win. And if they outbid you, I think your waiver priority remains the same.
That’s correct. You only lose your waiver priority if you win the claim.

It’s kind of weird the guy with the second highest waiver priority thinks this is working to his disadvantage.