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Wish him well.
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Mariners lost

No hits from Cal, Naylor or J Rod

Protection is a myth
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JJ looks special
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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 26 Mar 2026 22:45 pm Would have still loved to have him, he was my favorite player the last few years and someone I loved watched with the seasons were otherwise meaningless.

I get why they traded him but he would have looked good at 3rd this year with Gorman at DH
Herrera will be our DH and a very good one at that. We have a lot of top-notch catchers soon to be up who are better defenders. Having Herrera at DH is perfect cause he can occasionally switch over to catcher in a situation where we need to insert speed on the basepaths.
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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 26 Mar 2026 22:45 pm Would have still loved to have him, he was my favorite player the last few years and someone I loved watched with the seasons were otherwise meaningless.

I get why they traded him but he would have looked good at 3rd this year with Gorman at DH
+1

But it was 100% the right move to deal him.
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82birds wrote: 26 Mar 2026 21:26 pm 1st AB (leadoff man) as a Mariner
long home run

Seattle's gonna love him
Congrats Donny!
Worst trade ever!!! He belonged at 3rd and LF and leading the rookies by example...on 29!
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 27 Mar 2026 09:12 am Mariners lost

No hits from Cal, Naylor or J Rod

Protection is a myth
"Protection" is a myth, according to several studies.
AI -
1) "More recent work using Statcast-era pitch data finds very small effects: Elite “protectors” slightly increase the percentage of strikes or middle-of-the-plate pitches seen by the batter ahead of them.
The magnitude is extremely small—on the order of a few extra hittable pitches over an entire season, not enough to drastically change a hitter’s line by itself. [paraballnotes.com]"
2) "Most large-scale statistical studies have found no meaningful improvement in overall hitting performance (OPS, wOBA, slugging) simply because a great hitter is on deck. Researchers have repeatedly failed to show that batters consistently hit better when “protected,” once you control for player quality and context. [baseballpr...pectus.com], [blogs.fangraphs.com]"
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Re: Brendan Donovan

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Melville wrote: 27 Mar 2026 07:54 am
ecleme22 wrote: 26 Mar 2026 22:57 pm
Melville wrote: 26 Mar 2026 21:28 pm
82birds wrote: 26 Mar 2026 21:26 pm 1st AB (leadoff man) as a Mariner
long home run

Seattle's gonna love him
They certainly acquired him on the cheap.
You really think so, Mehl? I liked the return. That pitcher is close.
Bloom did well with the trades with Boston and Arizona but was badly fleeced by Seattle.
Simply awful move.
Well fortunately we won’t have to wait 5 years (like Libby) to see if the pitcher is a bust or not.
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ClassicO wrote: 27 Mar 2026 08:04 am Melville thinks the Cards got fleeced on the Donovan trade. We’ll see. Again, he won’t say for whom the Cards should have traded him. Weak.

But let’s remember his prediction for Donny after the 2021 season when he said relying on Donovan (and Noot) as the LH solution to the team's woeful performance against RH pitching … would be utter foolishness.”
Never about me.
And I am always disappointed when others attempt to make it so.
I am only and always about the game.
Though ever hesitant to discuss my brilliant analysis, I must humbly admit how incredibly accurate I was in 2021 and every single day since concerning Donovan and Mootbasr.
In March of that year, after watching him in ST, I said Donovan would be the first of STL's position player prospects to reach MLB and would prove to be the best all around player of the bunch.
It took less than 90 days for her m to prove me correct.
Also since 2032, when Super Slo Mo proclaimed Mootbasr would become a middle order bat and a "core" player, I said he was wrong.
In fact, I was the only person on the planet to correctly advise that Moot be traded before his value cratered
The Cardinals - and nearly everyone else (being too much a gentleman, I will not mention present company) - have been wrong about him from day one,while I have been correct every single day since.
Again, I am mention these items not to promote my perfect analysis, but simply as a community service so that all can rest assured that I will be proven correct in my analysis of the Donovan trade.
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ClassicO wrote: 27 Mar 2026 08:04 am Melville thinks the Cards got fleeced on the Donovan trade. We’ll see. Again, he won’t say for whom the Cards should have traded him. Weak.

But let’s remember his prediction for Donny after the 2021 season when he said relying on Donovan (and Noot) as the LH solution to the team's woeful performance against RH pitching … would be utter foolishness.”
What else would you come to expect from our resident Sideshow Clown???
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Melville wrote: 27 Mar 2026 12:45 pm to
ClassicO wrote: 27 Mar 2026 08:04 am Melville thinks the Cards got fleeced on the Donovan trade. We’ll see. Again, he won’t say for whom the Cards should have traded him. Weak.

But let’s remember his prediction for Donny after the 2021 season when he said relying on Donovan (and Noot) as the LH solution to the team's woeful performance against RH pitching … would be utter foolishness.”
Never about me.
And I am always disappointed when others attempt to make it so.
I am only and always about the game.
Though ever hesitant to discuss my brilliant analysis, I must humbly admit how incredibly accurate I was in 2021 and every single day since concerning Donovan and Mootbasr.
In March of that year, after watching him in ST, I said Donovan would be the first of STL's position player prospects to reach MLB and would prove to be the best all around player of the bunch.
It took less than 90 days for her m to prove me correct.
Also since 2032, when Super Slo Mo proclaimed Mootbasr would become a middle order bat and a "core" player, I said he was wrong.
In fact, I was the only person on the planet to correctly advise that Moot be traded before his value cratered
The Cardinals - and nearly everyone else (being too much a gentleman, I will not mention present company) - have been wrong about him from day one,while I have been correct every single day since.
Again, I am mention these items not to promote my perfect analysis, but simply as a community service so that all can rest assured that I will be proven correct in my analysis of the Donovan trade.
And you also, thought they had a Unicorn at second base.
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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 26 Mar 2026 22:45 pm Would have still loved to have him, he was my favorite player the last few years and someone I loved watched with the seasons were otherwise meaningless.

I get why they traded him but he would have looked good at 3rd this year with Gorman at DH
That would be great, but then you'd have Ivan on the bench. Ivan could proove to be a much better hitter that BD.
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OldRed wrote: 27 Mar 2026 12:53 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Mar 2026 12:45 pm to
ClassicO wrote: 27 Mar 2026 08:04 am Melville thinks the Cards got fleeced on the Donovan trade. We’ll see. Again, he won’t say for whom the Cards should have traded him. Weak.

But let’s remember his prediction for Donny after the 2021 season when he said relying on Donovan (and Noot) as the LH solution to the team's woeful performance against RH pitching … would be utter foolishness.”
Never about me.
And I am always disappointed when others attempt to make it so.
I am only and always about the game.
Though ever hesitant to discuss my brilliant analysis, I must humbly admit how incredibly accurate I was in 2021 and every single day since concerning Donovan and Mootbasr.
In March of that year, after watching him in ST, I said Donovan would be the first of STL's position player prospects to reach MLB and would prove to be the best all around player of the bunch.
It took less than 90 days for her m to prove me correct.
Also since 2032, when Super Slo Mo proclaimed Mootbasr would become a middle order bat and a "core" player, I said he was wrong.
In fact, I was the only person on the planet to correctly advise that Moot be traded before his value cratered
The Cardinals - and nearly everyone else (being too much a gentleman, I will not mention present company) - have been wrong about him from day one,while I have been correct every single day since.
Again, I am mention these items not to promote my perfect analysis, but simply as a community service so that all can rest assured that I will be proven correct in my analysis of the Donovan trade.
And you also, thought they had a Unicorn at second base.
Good point.
Never about me.
And I am always disappointed when others attempt to make it so.
I am only and always about the game.
And while I am reluctant to highlight my successes, indeed I was 100% correct about that as well.
Exactly as I said several times, no LH hitting 2b hit as many home runs as frequently as Gorman by his 24th birthday.
Still true today.
But let's go further.
I have also predicted 25+ HR, 80+ RBI, and 80 runs scored per every 600 PA's if they would simply allow him regular playing time.
Now he is playing 3b, and after STL trading N/A for a 2nd time in order to create space, I stand by that and it is inevitable that it will happen.
As certain as sunrise.
Now, let's return this topic to the discussion of Donovan.
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Melville wrote: 27 Mar 2026 13:24 pm
OldRed wrote: 27 Mar 2026 12:53 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Mar 2026 12:45 pm to
ClassicO wrote: 27 Mar 2026 08:04 am Melville thinks the Cards got fleeced on the Donovan trade. We’ll see. Again, he won’t say for whom the Cards should have traded him. Weak.

But let’s remember his prediction for Donny after the 2021 season when he said relying on Donovan (and Noot) as the LH solution to the team's woeful performance against RH pitching … would be utter foolishness.”
Never about me.
And I am always disappointed when others attempt to make it so.
I am only and always about the game.
Though ever hesitant to discuss my brilliant analysis, I must humbly admit how incredibly accurate I was in 2021 and every single day since concerning Donovan and Mootbasr.
In March of that year, after watching him in ST, I said Donovan would be the first of STL's position player prospects to reach MLB and would prove to be the best all around player of the bunch.
It took less than 90 days for her m to prove me correct.
Also since 2032, when Super Slo Mo proclaimed Mootbasr would become a middle order bat and a "core" player, I said he was wrong.
In fact, I was the only person on the planet to correctly advise that Moot be traded before his value cratered
The Cardinals - and nearly everyone else (being too much a gentleman, I will not mention present company) - have been wrong about him from day one,while I have been correct every single day since.
Again, I am mention these items not to promote my perfect analysis, but simply as a community service so that all can rest assured that I will be proven correct in my analysis of the Donovan trade.
And you also, thought they had a Unicorn at second base.
Good point.
Never about me.
And I am always disappointed when others attempt to make it so.
I am only and always about the game.
And while I am reluctant to highlight my successes, indeed I was 100% correct about that as well.
Exactly as I said several times, no LH hitting 2b hit as many home runs as frequently as Gorman by his 24th birthday.
Still true today.
But let's go further.
I have also predicted 25+ HR, 80+ RBI, and 80 runs scored per every 600 PA's if they would simply allow him regular playing time.
Now he is playing 3b, and after STL trading N/A for a 2nd time in order to create space, I stand by that and it is inevitable that it will happen.
As certain as sunrise.
Now, let's return this topic to the discussion of Donovan.
Still can’t help yourself can you Sideshow??? LOL

Also...”And while I am reluctant to highlight my successes”
already could be running away with CT Quote of the Year!
LMFAO
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ClassicO wrote: 27 Mar 2026 08:04 am Melville thinks the Cards got fleeced on the Donovan trade. We’ll see. Again, he won’t say for whom the Cards should have traded him. Weak.

But let’s remember his prediction for Donny after the 2021 season when he said relying on Donovan (and Noot) as the LH solution to the team's woeful performance against RH pitching … would be utter foolishness.”
It will take years to sort out this trade. I was hoping the Cards would get the pitcher they received plus Arroyo in return. Arroyo has a chance to be at least as good a hitter as Donnie and be hear during 2026, plus they would have a pitcher as well. Instead we received an OF, Thai Peete who has potential, but has struggled to date in pro ball and is likley ETA 2028, if ever. A middling OF prospect and 2 comp picks. It could turn out to be a total haul or just a pitcher with 4 busts.

I understand the Mariners didn't want to trade Arroyo. But with them having Donnie, Emerson and Cole Young, it seemed they had the ability to trade Arroyo and still have a lot of young infield talent. In 4 years we can evaluate this trade.
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ICCFIM2 wrote: 27 Mar 2026 15:05 pm
ClassicO wrote: 27 Mar 2026 08:04 am Melville thinks the Cards got fleeced on the Donovan trade. We’ll see. Again, he won’t say for whom the Cards should have traded him. Weak.

But let’s remember his prediction for Donny after the 2021 season when he said relying on Donovan (and Noot) as the LH solution to the team's woeful performance against RH pitching … would be utter foolishness.”
It will take years to sort out this trade. I was hoping the Cards would get the pitcher they received plus Arroyo in return. Arroyo has a chance to be at least as good a hitter as Donnie and be hear during 2026, plus they would have a pitcher as well. Instead we received an OF, Thai Peete who has potential, but has struggled to date in pro ball and is likley ETA 2028, if ever. A middling OF prospect and 2 comp picks. It could turn out to be a total haul or just a pitcher with 4 busts.

I understand the Mariners didn't want to trade Arroyo. But with them having Donnie, Emerson and Cole Young, it seemed they had the ability to trade Arroyo and still have a lot of young infield talent. In 4 years we can evaluate this trade.
I think their plan is to play Arroyo in left field to replace Arozarena. He has drawn lots of comparisons to Randy.
Plus they are short on right hand bats. I still like Peete and if he hits his ceiling the Cards made a steal.