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Re: Should Saggese be sent to Memphis so Fermin can stay with the team?

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 23:31 pm
by IndCard75
Assuming Noot starts season on the IL it won’t be difficult to keep both on the OD roster.

Herrera C DH
Burly 1B
JJW 2B
Winn SS
Gorman 3B DH
JW RF
Scott CF
Church LF
DH I think will be used to give guys breaks but I expect to see Herrera and Gorman in there a lot.

Pages C
Pozo C 1B
Fermin IF
Urias IF
Sagesse Utility

When Noot comes back Church could be odd guy out.

Re: Should Saggese be sent to Memphis so Fermin can stay with the team?

Posted: 03 Mar 2026 23:32 pm
by JuanAgosto
I think Fermin will get some time in the outfield. He has played LF at Memphis. Room for he and Saggese.

Re: Should Saggese be sent to Memphis so Fermin can stay with the team?

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 08:58 am
by rockondlouie
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 19:41 pm I don’t see saggese getting enough playing time when noot comes back to keep him on the team. Winn when he was healthy played 150 games JJ if he isn’t hurt you can pen him in for 150 plus games he won’t be sitting against lefties so that would leave him as a pinch hitter platoon with Gorman occasional starter elsewhere he needs to play everyday. But of course if he is hitting well until noot comes back then yea you keep him and find at bats for him
^^^THIS^^^

If you really think he's going to develop into a quality major league hitter (I don't but hope you fans of his are right), then he needs to be at Memphis getting PA's every game.

Recalled if Noot is traded or someone gets injured.

Fermin is a better option as your SUP.

JMO

Re: Should Saggese be sent to Memphis so Fermin can stay with the team?

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 09:00 am
by Shady
DewittDaman11 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 22:27 pm
rage-STL wrote: 03 Mar 2026 20:41 pm Saggese hit an oppo bomb for team Italy against the Cubs today.

Thomas Saggese solo HR
That was impressive, dudes got sneaky power.
I hope Saggese spent some quality time in the weight room in the off season. He needed some bulk to his frame.

Re: Should Saggese be sent to Memphis so Fermin can stay with the team?

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 09:01 am
by Melville
Hoosier59 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 21:18 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 03 Mar 2026 21:01 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 20:14 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 19:45 pm They both should be on the 26 man roster and receive regular to semi-regular playing time! Which makes it even more weird that the Cardinals felt they needed to sign Urias and clog up things! He wasn’t needed. For a team and Owner that have been trying save money this off-season, what money they have spent has been debatable!
I think urias was signed more because of his leadership. The veterans they did sign may and stanek have been on world championship winning teams and urias has been in a couple of post seasons but he’s also reported to good veteran leader who apparently has a great work ethic that is a good influence on younger players. He also plays gold glove defense
I think Urias is here as a safety net in case Gorman sucks. And to show all the young infielders how to prepare for a 162 game season.

I think Fermin is out of options, and can perform ok with limited ABs. He bats RH and plays a lot of positions. He’s probably my 26th.
I’m sure you are correct, but we just heard Oli say how that wasn't needed. He believes that guys already here are ready to step into those leadership roles. All Urias does is take playing time away from Saggese, Fermin, and Gorman. If it doesn’t, then whenever he plays somebody else will have to sit. Be it Winn, Wetherholt, Burleson, or an outfielder. You know DeWitt isn’t going to let Bloom release him now, so he’s here until at least the trade deadline. He’s not bringing anything back in trade either. For a team wanting to see what the young guys can do, and not concerned with wins and losses, this was just a dumb signing!
Correct assessment.

Re: Should Saggese be sent to Memphis so Fermin can stay with the team?

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 09:05 am
by Janssen
Crazy how the ball flies in Scottsdale. Line drive to right!

Re: Should Saggese be sent to Memphis so Fermin can stay with the team?

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 09:43 am
by Cusecards
IndCard75 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 23:31 pm Assuming Noot starts season on the IL it won’t be difficult to keep both on the OD roster.

Herrera C DH
Burly 1B
JJW 2B
Winn SS
Gorman 3B DH
JW RF
Scott CF
Church LF
DH I think will be used to give guys breaks but I expect to see Herrera and Gorman in there a lot.

Pages C
Pozo C 1B
Fermin IF
Urias IF
Sagesse Utility

When Noot comes back Church could be odd guy out.
You beat me to it!
Agree word for word.

Re: Should Saggese be sent to Memphis so Fermin can stay with the team?

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 10:24 am
by Shady
Cusecards wrote: 04 Mar 2026 09:43 am
IndCard75 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 23:31 pm Assuming Noot starts season on the IL it won’t be difficult to keep both on the OD roster.

Herrera C DH
Burly 1B
JJW 2B
Winn SS
Gorman 3B DH
JW RF
Scott CF
Church LF
DH I think will be used to give guys breaks but I expect to see Herrera and Gorman in there a lot.

Pages C
Pozo C 1B
Fermin IF
Urias IF
Sagesse Utility

When Noot comes back Church could be odd guy out.
You beat me to it!
Agree word for word.
Nootbaar may need to actually win his job back.

Re: Should Saggese be sent to Memphis so Fermin can stay with the team?

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 10:54 am
by rockondlouie
Shady wrote: 04 Mar 2026 10:24 am Nootbaar may need to actually win his job back.
What?

When healthy he's the best OFer on this team. :roll:

Re: Should Saggese be sent to Memphis so Fermin can stay with the team?

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 10:57 am
by Shady
rockondlouie wrote: 04 Mar 2026 10:54 am
Shady wrote: 04 Mar 2026 10:24 am Nootbaar may need to actually win his job back.
What?

When healthy he's the best OFer on this team. :roll:
Church could be really good and has a better arm than Nootbaar.

Re: Should Saggese be sent to Memphis so Fermin can stay with the team?

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 11:01 am
by rockondlouie
Shady wrote: 04 Mar 2026 10:57 am
rockondlouie wrote: 04 Mar 2026 10:54 am
Shady wrote: 04 Mar 2026 10:24 am Nootbaar may need to actually win his job back.
What?

When healthy he's the best OFer on this team. :roll:
Church could be really good and has a better arm than Nootbaar.
Good grief no. ::crazya::

Noot is a MLB career .341 OB%/.747 OPS while Church was overmatched in his small sample size last season (179 .254 .250 .504).

Church, like VSII, is a strong defensive OF'er but unproven as a hitter in MLB.

No comparison

Re: Should Saggese be sent to Memphis so Fermin can stay with the team?

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 14:42 pm
by Cusecards
Shady wrote: 04 Mar 2026 10:24 am
Cusecards wrote: 04 Mar 2026 09:43 am
IndCard75 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 23:31 pm Assuming Noot starts season on the IL it won’t be difficult to keep both on the OD roster.

Herrera C DH
Burly 1B
JJW 2B
Winn SS
Gorman 3B DH
JW RF
Scott CF
Church LF
DH I think will be used to give guys breaks but I expect to see Herrera and Gorman in there a lot.

Pages C
Pozo C 1B
Fermin IF
Urias IF
Sagesse Utility

When Noot comes back Church could be odd guy out.
You beat me to it!
Agree word for word.
Nootbaar may need to actually win his job back.
Time will tell.

Re: Should Saggese be sent to Memphis so Fermin can stay with the team?

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 14:47 pm
by craviduce
Cusecards wrote: 04 Mar 2026 14:42 pm
Shady wrote: 04 Mar 2026 10:24 am
Cusecards wrote: 04 Mar 2026 09:43 am
IndCard75 wrote: 03 Mar 2026 23:31 pm Assuming Noot starts season on the IL it won’t be difficult to keep both on the OD roster.

Herrera C DH
Burly 1B
JJW 2B
Winn SS
Gorman 3B DH
JW RF
Scott CF
Church LF
DH I think will be used to give guys breaks but I expect to see Herrera and Gorman in there a lot.

Pages C
Pozo C 1B
Fermin IF
Urias IF
Sagesse Utility

When Noot comes back Church could be odd guy out.
You beat me to it!
Agree word for word.
Nootbaar may need to actually win his job back.
Time will tell.
who did Noot lose his job to, and what did they do to win the job?

maybe he hasn't lost his job at all?