Re: Cardinals- best infield/outfield in baseball
Posted: 10 Feb 2026 10:58 am
Was this outfield better than Brock, Flood, and Maris? I know it was the end of his career, but Maris was known as an excellent fielder.
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Was this outfield better than Brock, Flood, and Maris? I know it was the end of his career, but Maris was known as an excellent fielder.
I think Church is 4th or 5th OF at best and won't challenge Scott for starting role in CF.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 08:33 am Ha you guys got me. Intent. How good will the current infield/outfield be. Seems to be an org focus on the infield.
With Church, and/or Baez, I hear, with Scott forms a good three some. Most teams Cant match the consistency.
Infield. Winn is GG caliber. JJ may be. At second, you are strong all the way up the middle to Catcher.
With JJ at third, maybe, if he sticks, a GG caliber left side, with a very good second baseman- Torres Saggese
you could be right about being .500 if those 2 improvesikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 10:39 amYa know, o hear ya. You’re probably correct. I got this feeling he has a nice bounce back year, and I feel the same for Scott to emerge a bit. Both of these happen, it’s a much more exciting season.dugoutrex wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 10:36 amyes - we have all been waiting a couple years for some improvement - I fear he is what he is at this pointsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 10:35 amMy hope is that gap narrows. Any improvement is a way forward.dugoutrex wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 10:22 amWalker is far from average defensivelysikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 05:53 am Good morning.
To me it is becoming clearer the team is focused on a saturation model, currently young pitchers, and middle infielders.
This is a defensive discussion.
Infield- Burleson JJ Winn Gorman/Torres/Saggesse. Not the best. Burleson Torres Winn JJ potential gold glove infield, minus first base. But still good. The debate as usual is JJ- second or third.
Outfield. Seems to be the black hole of the team. However. If Church is a challenge to Scott, why not start in left. Scott in center. Walker in right. This covers 70 percent of the outfield. Walker plays a league average outfield, has the arm, and is or will get better.
This setup is young atheletic and cost controlled. This is based on in house assets, no trades.
About .500 but exciting for a rebuild.
Re: infield prospects after JJW.RunSup wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 11:13 amI think Church is 4th or 5th OF at best and won't challenge Scott for starting role in CF.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 08:33 am Ha you guys got me. Intent. How good will the current infield/outfield be. Seems to be an org focus on the infield.
With Church, and/or Baez, I hear, with Scott forms a good three some. Most teams Cant match the consistency.
Infield. Winn is GG caliber. JJ may be. At second, you are strong all the way up the middle to Catcher.
With JJ at third, maybe, if he sticks, a GG caliber left side, with a very good second baseman- Torres Saggese
Baez needs to continue the strides he made last year and then challenge for OF starting role by 2027. Thes are significant "Iffs". Then Tai Pete needs to follow Baez on his development path.
Herrera has athleticism for LF. Could be decent defensively if he got reps out there. But they will insist on catcher even though 3 other Catching prospects are coming.
Oh yeah Nootbar is still here. Maybe you assume a trade here? Also last chance for Walker to show as a Cardinal.
The Cardinals need another prospect to develop at 3B or 2B. JJW will man one of those positions.
Last chance for Gorman to show. Saggese is a util guy, sorry.
Wetherholt's minor league errors were not an indication of gold glove. Burleson probably not a great defender either. Winn definitely.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 05:53 am Good morning.
To me it is becoming clearer the team is focused on a saturation model, currently young pitchers, and middle infielders.
This is a defensive discussion.
Infield- Burleson JJ Winn Gorman/Torres/Saggesse. Not the best. Burleson Torres Winn JJ potential gold glove infield, minus first base. But still good. The debate as usual is JJ- second or third.
Outfield. Seems to be the black hole of the team. However. If Church is a challenge to Scott, why not start in left. Scott in center. Walker in right. This covers 70 percent of the outfield. Walker plays a league average outfield, has the arm, and is or will get better.
This setup is young atheletic and cost controlled. This is based on in house assets, no trades.
About .500 but exciting for a rebuild.