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Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 00:46 am
by Cardinals1964
RamFan08NY wrote: 05 Feb 2026 00:37 am
Cardinals1964 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 23:51 pm Ai doesn’t lie.

Opinion of CCARD's Reputation
Controversial Nature: CCARD is frequently viewed as a "lightning rod" on the forums. While some long-time users appreciate the historical perspective or high frequency of posts, others often label the user as a "troll" or "thread-killer" due to repetitive arguments and a perceived refusal to acknowledge opposing viewpoints.
Persistence & Prolific Posting: The user is known for extreme persistence, sometimes being accused of "spamming" threads with the same comments about specific minor league players (such as Alec Burleson in previous seasons) repeatedly over several years.
Banning & Multiple Accounts: Reports from community moderators and users indicate that CCARD has been banned from the STLtoday forums multiple times. In response, the user has a reputation for creating alternative accounts (sockpuppets) to circumvent these bans and continue posting.
Informational Value vs. Interaction: While the user often tracks specific prospects closely, the reputation for "talking to themselves" or engaging in circular debates often overshadows the informational value of the posts for many regular forum members.
Forum Context (2026)
The STLtoday Cardinals Talk section has become increasingly "zany" and contentious as the team undergoes a major "shift in philosophy" under Chaim Bloom. This environment often amplifies the presence of polarizing posters like CCARD, who thrive on high-volume debate during periods of organizational turnover.
For fans looking to avoid the more controversial elements of the main STLtoday board, many have migrated to The Cardinal Nation Open Forum, which enforces stricter posting rules against trolling and personal attacks.

I always thought you had multiple accounts so you could agree with yourself.
Wow! That certainly explains a lot. A lot of what many already suspected
I suspect he’s the alter ego of many that think like him.
If I hated everything about a team or sport like some people do, I’d quit watching. Seriously. Why care what others do in their accomplishments?
I watch other games. Yankees vs Red Sox for instance. I don’t care who wins. I just enjoy the game.

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 01:24 am
by okcardfan
The OP joined Cards Talk on Feb 4, 2026.
'Nuff said.

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 02:07 am
by Cardinals1964
okcardfan wrote: 05 Feb 2026 01:24 am The OP joined Cards Talk on Feb 4, 2026.
'Nuff said.
He has 1 post.

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 02:09 am
by Cardinals1964
30 names posting. Only 10 individuals. Moderators allow it because they don’t want to be bothered.

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 02:10 am
by Cardinals1964
TNT9516 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:32 am How do any of the moves the Cardinals made this fall make any sense? I could believe it on the premise that we were trying to rebuild until we traded away one of our rebuilding pieces. The Donovan trade made no sense whatsoever. You've got a guy that's under 2 years of control that is ian all star and you trade him away when you're wanting to be rebuilding? It appears to me that the management is looking to tank on purpose. Why would they want to do that? It has always been said the Cardinals would not be moved as long as they were selling lots of tickets. And they historically have. But when the ticket sales fall the MLB is not going to be hesitant it to move them. And ticket sales are as low as I can remember in my life. This team is infinitely more valuable to be sold if it can be moved. There are a lot of bigger towns that could use baseball teams. Austin Texas is a million people and they're underrepresented. Nashville / Louisville / Chattanooga area is grossly underrepresented. MLB would love to get teams in these much higher population areas. The best way to do it would be to buy a team that's already established and move it in there. It looks to me like the dewits are tanking the Cardinals in an effort to be able to move them. If ticket sales are low enough the MLB will approve it. St Louis has 280,000 people now. Austin has a million Chattanooga Louisville Nashville area has almost 3 million people. Memphis is a much bigger town. Folks get used to the idea of the Cardinals not being here- it's probably coming. The DeWitts have no ties to the St Louis area at all. Other than a baseball team they own is inconveniently located here. They just came out a couple of weeks ago and professed undying love for the Cardinals. That doesn't mean St louis. That just means the Cardinals. Look at the Cubs - that stadium is always full no matter how good or bad they are. Why would you invest in players and player development if you're going to fill the stadium based on the population of your area regardless of winning or losing. Is much cheaper to fill the stadium in a huge metropolitan area than it is a small one.
Hi CCard.

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 06:51 am
by Voldemort
12xu wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:45 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:31 pm
12xu wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:13 pm
TNT9516 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:32 am How do any of the moves the Cardinals made this fall make any sense? I could believe it on the premise that we were trying to rebuild until we traded away one of our rebuilding pieces. The Donovan trade made no sense whatsoever. You've got a guy that's under 2 years of control that is ian all star and you trade him away when you're wanting to be rebuilding? It appears to me that the management is looking to tank on purpose. Why would they want to do that? It has always been said the Cardinals would not be moved as long as they were selling lots of tickets. And they historically have. But when the ticket sales fall the MLB is not going to be hesitant it to move them. And ticket sales are as low as I can remember in my life. This team is infinitely more valuable to be sold if it can be moved. There are a lot of bigger towns that could use baseball teams. Austin Texas is a million people and they're underrepresented. Nashville / Louisville / Chattanooga area is grossly underrepresented. MLB would love to get teams in these much higher population areas. The best way to do it would be to buy a team that's already established and move it in there. It looks to me like the dewits are tanking the Cardinals in an effort to be able to move them. If ticket sales are low enough the MLB will approve it. St Louis has 280,000 people now. Austin has a million Chattanooga Louisville Nashville area has almost 3 million people. Memphis is a much bigger town. Folks get used to the idea of the Cardinals not being here- it's probably coming. The DeWitts have no ties to the St Louis area at all. Other than a baseball team they own is inconveniently located here. They just came out a couple of weeks ago and professed undying love for the Cardinals. That doesn't mean St louis. That just means the Cardinals. Look at the Cubs - that stadium is always full no matter how good or bad they are. Why would you invest in players and player development if you're going to fill the stadium based on the population of your area regardless of winning or losing. Is much cheaper to fill the stadium in a huge metropolitan area than it is a small one.
Chattanooga/Louisville/Nashville are not part of one metropolitan area. Are you suggesting that the team would play in all three cities, or are you just ignorant of geography? If Texas gets another team, it won't be in Austin, it would be in San Antonio.
St. Louis Cardinals are not moving, pal.
I mean Austin is growing faster, and the central Texas area has more money and ultimately probably more demand than SAT. But Austin already has highly paid pro-level teams in Football, Basketball, and to an extent baseball, all wearing burnt orange.
So is TNT9516 your new sock?
I had the same thought!

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 08:22 am
by BleedingBleu
Carp4Cy wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:31 pm
12xu wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:13 pm
TNT9516 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:32 am How do any of the moves the Cardinals made this fall make any sense? I could believe it on the premise that we were trying to rebuild until we traded away one of our rebuilding pieces. The Donovan trade made no sense whatsoever. You've got a guy that's under 2 years of control that is ian all star and you trade him away when you're wanting to be rebuilding? It appears to me that the management is looking to tank on purpose. Why would they want to do that? It has always been said the Cardinals would not be moved as long as they were selling lots of tickets. And they historically have. But when the ticket sales fall the MLB is not going to be hesitant it to move them. And ticket sales are as low as I can remember in my life. This team is infinitely more valuable to be sold if it can be moved. There are a lot of bigger towns that could use baseball teams. Austin Texas is a million people and they're underrepresented. Nashville / Louisville / Chattanooga area is grossly underrepresented. MLB would love to get teams in these much higher population areas. The best way to do it would be to buy a team that's already established and move it in there. It looks to me like the dewits are tanking the Cardinals in an effort to be able to move them. If ticket sales are low enough the MLB will approve it. St Louis has 280,000 people now. Austin has a million Chattanooga Louisville Nashville area has almost 3 million people. Memphis is a much bigger town. Folks get used to the idea of the Cardinals not being here- it's probably coming. The DeWitts have no ties to the St Louis area at all. Other than a baseball team they own is inconveniently located here. They just came out a couple of weeks ago and professed undying love for the Cardinals. That doesn't mean St louis. That just means the Cardinals. Look at the Cubs - that stadium is always full no matter how good or bad they are. Why would you invest in players and player development if you're going to fill the stadium based on the population of your area regardless of winning or losing. Is much cheaper to fill the stadium in a huge metropolitan area than it is a small one.
Chattanooga/Louisville/Nashville are not part of one metropolitan area. Are you suggesting that the team would play in all three cities, or are you just ignorant of geography? If Texas gets another team, it won't be in Austin, it would be in San Antonio.
St. Louis Cardinals are not moving, pal.
I mean Austin is growing faster, and the central Texas area has more money and ultimately probably more demand than SAT. But Austin already has highly paid pro-level teams in Football, Basketball, and to an extent baseball, all wearing burnt orange.
Not to mention the University of Texas, home of the freaking Longhorns

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 08:35 am
by OldRed
Don't say never.

On February 20th, 1953, beer baron and self-proclaimed "sportsman" August "Gussie" Busch II purchased the St. Louis Cardinals from Fred Saigh for just $3.75 million.

Prior to selling the Cardinals to Gussie Busch, Fred Saigh, who was facing serious debt and trouble with the law, was considering moving the team out of St. Louis. If he could find a wealthy enough buyer in the area, all the better. In fact, there were talks about moving the team to Milwaukee, another city with a massive beer presence in Pabst and Schlitz.

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 08:42 am
by Bomber1
TNT9516 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:32 am How do any of the moves the Cardinals made this fall make any sense? I could believe it on the premise that we were trying to rebuild until we traded away one of our rebuilding pieces. The Donovan trade made no sense whatsoever. You've got a guy that's under 2 years of control that is ian all star and you trade him away when you're wanting to be rebuilding? It appears to me that the management is looking to tank on purpose. Why would they want to do that? It has always been said the Cardinals would not be moved as long as they were selling lots of tickets. And they historically have. But when the ticket sales fall the MLB is not going to be hesitant it to move them. And ticket sales are as low as I can remember in my life. This team is infinitely more valuable to be sold if it can be moved. There are a lot of bigger towns that could use baseball teams. Austin Texas is a million people and they're underrepresented. Nashville / Louisville / Chattanooga area is grossly underrepresented. MLB would love to get teams in these much higher population areas. The best way to do it would be to buy a team that's already established and move it in there. It looks to me like the dewits are tanking the Cardinals in an effort to be able to move them. If ticket sales are low enough the MLB will approve it. St Louis has 280,000 people now. Austin has a million Chattanooga Louisville Nashville area has almost 3 million people. Memphis is a much bigger town. Folks get used to the idea of the Cardinals not being here- it's probably coming. The DeWitts have no ties to the St Louis area at all. Other than a baseball team they own is inconveniently located here. They just came out a couple of weeks ago and professed undying love for the Cardinals. That doesn't mean St louis. That just means the Cardinals. Look at the Cubs - that stadium is always full no matter how good or bad they are. Why would you invest in players and player development if you're going to fill the stadium based on the population of your area regardless of winning or losing. Is much cheaper to fill the stadium in a huge metropolitan area than it is a small one.
The St. Louis Cardinals are not going to move.

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 08:44 am
by rockondlouie
:roll:

Moron

0.00% chance the Cardinals EVER leave St. Louis

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 08:48 am
by Cardinals4Life
TNT9516 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:32 am How do any of the moves the Cardinals made this fall make any sense? I could believe it on the premise that we were trying to rebuild until we traded away one of our rebuilding pieces. The Donovan trade made no sense whatsoever. You've got a guy that's under 2 years of control that is ian all star and you trade him away when you're wanting to be rebuilding? It appears to me that the management is looking to tank on purpose. Why would they want to do that? It has always been said the Cardinals would not be moved as long as they were selling lots of tickets. And they historically have. But when the ticket sales fall the MLB is not going to be hesitant it to move them. And ticket sales are as low as I can remember in my life. This team is infinitely more valuable to be sold if it can be moved. There are a lot of bigger towns that could use baseball teams. Austin Texas is a million people and they're underrepresented. Nashville / Louisville / Chattanooga area is grossly underrepresented. MLB would love to get teams in these much higher population areas. The best way to do it would be to buy a team that's already established and move it in there. It looks to me like the dewits are tanking the Cardinals in an effort to be able to move them. If ticket sales are low enough the MLB will approve it. St Louis has 280,000 people now. Austin has a million Chattanooga Louisville Nashville area has almost 3 million people. Memphis is a much bigger town. Folks get used to the idea of the Cardinals not being here- it's probably coming. The DeWitts have no ties to the St Louis area at all. Other than a baseball team they own is inconveniently located here. They just came out a couple of weeks ago and professed undying love for the Cardinals. That doesn't mean St louis. That just means the Cardinals. Look at the Cubs - that stadium is always full no matter how good or bad they are. Why would you invest in players and player development if you're going to fill the stadium based on the population of your area regardless of winning or losing. Is much cheaper to fill the stadium in a huge metropolitan area than it is a small one.
C'mon, guy. The Cardinals aren't moving. Ticket sales are down, but still way more than most of the MLB teams. Way more. Have you ever been to a game in Miami or Tampa?
Cardinals fans will fill the stadium when the product is better. Period.

As to Memphis, they already have a team, but apparently they are playing in STL this summer!

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 08:59 am
by BrockFloodMaris
TNT9516 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:32 am How do any of the moves the Cardinals made this fall make any sense? I could believe it on the premise that we were trying to rebuild until we traded away one of our rebuilding pieces. The Donovan trade made no sense whatsoever. You've got a guy that's under 2 years of control that is ian all star and you trade him away when you're wanting to be rebuilding? It appears to me that the management is looking to tank on purpose. Why would they want to do that? It has always been said the Cardinals would not be moved as long as they were selling lots of tickets. And they historically have. But when the ticket sales fall the MLB is not going to be hesitant it to move them. And ticket sales are as low as I can remember in my life. This team is infinitely more valuable to be sold if it can be moved. There are a lot of bigger towns that could use baseball teams. Austin Texas is a million people and they're underrepresented. Nashville / Louisville / Chattanooga area is grossly underrepresented. MLB would love to get teams in these much higher population areas. The best way to do it would be to buy a team that's already established and move it in there. It looks to me like the dewits are tanking the Cardinals in an effort to be able to move them. If ticket sales are low enough the MLB will approve it. St Louis has 280,000 people now. Austin has a million Chattanooga Louisville Nashville area has almost 3 million people. Memphis is a much bigger town. Folks get used to the idea of the Cardinals not being here- it's probably coming. The DeWitts have no ties to the St Louis area at all. Other than a baseball team they own is inconveniently located here. They just came out a couple of weeks ago and professed undying love for the Cardinals. That doesn't mean St louis. That just means the Cardinals. Look at the Cubs - that stadium is always full no matter how good or bad they are. Why would you invest in players and player development if you're going to fill the stadium based on the population of your area regardless of winning or losing. Is much cheaper to fill the stadium in a huge metropolitan area than it is a small one.
Welcome to Cards Talk forum. Interesting take for your first post. I don’t think the Cards are moving this storied MLB franchise any time soon. They are woven into the fabric of this town. They’ve won 11 World Series here. Appreciate your contribution. Hope you enjoy your time on CT.

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 09:11 am
by BrummerStealsHome
Saskatoon, here we come!

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Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 09:17 am
by BleedingBleu
OldRed wrote: 05 Feb 2026 08:35 am Don't say never.

On February 20th, 1953, beer baron and self-proclaimed "sportsman" August "Gussie" Busch II purchased the St. Louis Cardinals from Fred Saigh for just $3.75 million.

Prior to selling the Cardinals to Gussie Busch, Fred Saigh, who was facing serious debt and trouble with the law, was considering moving the team out of St. Louis. If he could find a wealthy enough buyer in the area, all the better. In fact, there were talks about moving the team to Milwaukee, another city with a massive beer presence in Pabst and Schlitz.
Right? The St Charles Hoots will certainly give them a run for their money this year, like those St Louis Browns… who moved in 1953 after the Brewery took over the Cardinals

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 09:26 am
by zuck698
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Feb 2026 08:44 am :roll:

Moron

0.00% chance the Cardinals EVER leave St. Louis
Especially with all the investment around and including the stadium. STL will be home for the duration Rock. Unless, like I mentioned earlier, they get approval for the 'Disney " park in East St. Louis to break ground. Then Bill may pack it in. :lol: :lol:

Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

Posted: 05 Feb 2026 09:36 am
by Banner29
Bomber1 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 08:42 am
TNT9516 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:32 am How do any of the moves the Cardinals made this fall make any sense? I could believe it on the premise that we were trying to rebuild until we traded away one of our rebuilding pieces. The Donovan trade made no sense whatsoever. You've got a guy that's under 2 years of control that is ian all star and you trade him away when you're wanting to be rebuilding? It appears to me that the management is looking to tank on purpose. Why would they want to do that? It has always been said the Cardinals would not be moved as long as they were selling lots of tickets. And they historically have. But when the ticket sales fall the MLB is not going to be hesitant it to move them. And ticket sales are as low as I can remember in my life. This team is infinitely more valuable to be sold if it can be moved. There are a lot of bigger towns that could use baseball teams. Austin Texas is a million people and they're underrepresented. Nashville / Louisville / Chattanooga area is grossly underrepresented. MLB would love to get teams in these much higher population areas. The best way to do it would be to buy a team that's already established and move it in there. It looks to me like the dewits are tanking the Cardinals in an effort to be able to move them. If ticket sales are low enough the MLB will approve it. St Louis has 280,000 people now. Austin has a million Chattanooga Louisville Nashville area has almost 3 million people. Memphis is a much bigger town. Folks get used to the idea of the Cardinals not being here- it's probably coming. The DeWitts have no ties to the St Louis area at all. Other than a baseball team they own is inconveniently located here. They just came out a couple of weeks ago and professed undying love for the Cardinals. That doesn't mean St louis. That just means the Cardinals. Look at the Cubs - that stadium is always full no matter how good or bad they are. Why would you invest in players and player development if you're going to fill the stadium based on the population of your area regardless of winning or losing. Is much cheaper to fill the stadium in a huge metropolitan area than it is a small one.
The St. Louis Cardinals are not going to move.
I also believe there is no chance it happens

However with Dewitt and his little boy crying poor for a few years now and the talk of upcoming stadium renovations and needed public money for it I will not at all be surprised to see them start bringing up the N word for leverage here and there to scare the money out of the tax payer wallets(and everyone relax I mean Nashville)