Suarez

[Hoosier59]

We already have a third baseman who can hit 25 home runs while striking out a million times, and be terrible defensively. He's hardly making anything. Why would you pay 15 million for the same thing?

I don’t believe Suarez would have been a great fit for the Cardinals either, but he is going to play 1st base, not 3rd, and he hit over 40 home runs, not 25.

I bet he wouldn't hit more than 25 to 30 in St Louis. Anyway not an issue. We get to watch stormin Norman

Probably right.
One thing that baffles me, Busch III is a hard stadium to hit homers in, but the Cardinals haven’t even tried to build a team built for such a ballpark! They don’t have any true sluggers outside of Gorman, they were last in the league in triples, they don’t try to steal many bases, they just do not have a lot of team speed, and in the past they’ve concentrated on ground ball pitchers. Now, with the interest in the team at a low, bringing in the fences some, would help at least generate some. I can’t believe they didn’t try and help Goldie and Arenado a few seasons ago! That was one of Nolan’s biggest complaints. I just don’t understand their way of thinking!

I hate moving fences in. It admits defeat and failure.

It would also help the other teams hitters more than the cardinals

What difference does that make, losing is losing. Unless you think the Cardinals won’t lose with the fences where they are.

[Ozziesfan41]

We already have a third baseman who can hit 25 home runs while striking out a million times, and be terrible defensively. He's hardly making anything. Why would you pay 15 million for the same thing?

I don’t believe Suarez would have been a great fit for the Cardinals either, but he is going to play 1st base, not 3rd, and he hit over 40 home runs, not 25.

I bet he wouldn't hit more than 25 to 30 in St Louis. Anyway not an issue. We get to watch stormin Norman

Probably right.
One thing that baffles me, Busch III is a hard stadium to hit homers in, but the Cardinals haven’t even tried to build a team built for such a ballpark! They don’t have any true sluggers outside of Gorman, they were last in the league in triples, they don’t try to steal many bases, they just do not have a lot of team speed, and in the past they’ve concentrated on ground ball pitchers. Now, with the interest in the team at a low, bringing in the fences some, would help at least generate some. I can’t believe they didn’t try and help Goldie and Arenado a few seasons ago! That was one of Nolan’s biggest complaints. I just don’t understand their way of thinking!

I hate moving fences in. It admits defeat and failure.

It would also help the other teams hitters more than the cardinals

What difference does that make, losing is losing. Unless you think the Cardinals won’t lose with the fences where they are.

If it won’t make a difference why move them in?

[cardstatman]

Headed back to the Reds, 1 year for 15 mil + a mutual option year.

If I am not mistaken, this leaves pretty much nothing left on the free agent shelves except starting pitching.

[Hoosier59]

We already have a third baseman who can hit 25 home runs while striking out a million times, and be terrible defensively. He's hardly making anything. Why would you pay 15 million for the same thing?

I don’t believe Suarez would have been a great fit for the Cardinals either, but he is going to play 1st base, not 3rd, and he hit over 40 home runs, not 25.

I bet he wouldn't hit more than 25 to 30 in St Louis. Anyway not an issue. We get to watch stormin Norman

Probably right.
One thing that baffles me, Busch III is a hard stadium to hit homers in, but the Cardinals haven’t even tried to build a team built for such a ballpark! They don’t have any true sluggers outside of Gorman, they were last in the league in triples, they don’t try to steal many bases, they just do not have a lot of team speed, and in the past they’ve concentrated on ground ball pitchers. Now, with the interest in the team at a low, bringing in the fences some, would help at least generate some. I can’t believe they didn’t try and help Goldie and Arenado a few seasons ago! That was one of Nolan’s biggest complaints. I just don’t understand their way of thinking!

I hate moving fences in. It admits defeat and failure.

It would also help the other teams hitters more than the cardinals

What difference does that make, losing is losing. Unless you think the Cardinals won’t lose with the fences where they are.

If it won’t make a difference why move them in?

As I said, to help create more fan interest. Plus it would help increase the trade value of some of our hitters. How much more value, for instance would Donovan have if he hit closer to 20 home runs instead of 10. Just as an example.

[Ozziesfan41]

We already have a third baseman who can hit 25 home runs while striking out a million times, and be terrible defensively. He's hardly making anything. Why would you pay 15 million for the same thing?

I don’t believe Suarez would have been a great fit for the Cardinals either, but he is going to play 1st base, not 3rd, and he hit over 40 home runs, not 25.

I bet he wouldn't hit more than 25 to 30 in St Louis. Anyway not an issue. We get to watch stormin Norman

Probably right.
One thing that baffles me, Busch III is a hard stadium to hit homers in, but the Cardinals haven’t even tried to build a team built for such a ballpark! They don’t have any true sluggers outside of Gorman, they were last in the league in triples, they don’t try to steal many bases, they just do not have a lot of team speed, and in the past they’ve concentrated on ground ball pitchers. Now, with the interest in the team at a low, bringing in the fences some, would help at least generate some. I can’t believe they didn’t try and help Goldie and Arenado a few seasons ago! That was one of Nolan’s biggest complaints. I just don’t understand their way of thinking!

I hate moving fences in. It admits defeat and failure.

It would also help the other teams hitters more than the cardinals

What difference does that make, losing is losing. Unless you think the Cardinals won’t lose with the fences where they are.

If it won’t make a difference why move them in?

As I said, to help create more fan interest. Plus it would help increase the trade value of some of our hitters. How much more value, for instance would Donovan have if he hit closer to 20 home runs instead of 10. Just as an example.

And probably lower the trade value of pitchers and Donovan would have had to have stayed on the field to hit 20 even with the fences moved in

[Cardinals1964]

Headed back to the Reds, 1 year for 15 mil + a mutual option year.

And back months ago when I said that he would be aperfect 3B for the Cards, I was told that we couldnt afford him.

Lol.

To review:

Donovan LF
Wetherholt 2B
Herrera C
Suarez 3B
Contreras 1B
Burleson DH
Walker RF
Winn SS
Scott II CF

Valdez
Gray
Pitcher acquired via trade
Liberatore
McGreevy

This was a suggestion I posted many times. This is a playoff team.

But would he want to play for the cardinals? He played for the reds before and liked it they made the post season last season it’s a very hitter friendly park as opposed to
The cardinals stadium which is very hitter friendly. He probably sees it as going to a team that made the post season and he can put up big numbers and make the post season or get traded to a contender at the deadline

On top of that, have you ever been to downtown Cincinnati? I have many times. I’d rather spend a year in Cincinnati over St. Louis any day.

[rockondlouie]

Headed back to the Reds, 1 year for 15 mil + a mutual option year.

What a horrible left side of the field, defensively.

Looks like he'll be their primary DH

[Hoosier59]

We already have a third baseman who can hit 25 home runs while striking out a million times, and be terrible defensively. He's hardly making anything. Why would you pay 15 million for the same thing?

I don’t believe Suarez would have been a great fit for the Cardinals either, but he is going to play 1st base, not 3rd, and he hit over 40 home runs, not 25.

I bet he wouldn't hit more than 25 to 30 in St Louis. Anyway not an issue. We get to watch stormin Norman

Probably right.
One thing that baffles me, Busch III is a hard stadium to hit homers in, but the Cardinals haven’t even tried to build a team built for such a ballpark! They don’t have any true sluggers outside of Gorman, they were last in the league in triples, they don’t try to steal many bases, they just do not have a lot of team speed, and in the past they’ve concentrated on ground ball pitchers. Now, with the interest in the team at a low, bringing in the fences some, would help at least generate some. I can’t believe they didn’t try and help Goldie and Arenado a few seasons ago! That was one of Nolan’s biggest complaints. I just don’t understand their way of thinking!

I hate moving fences in. It admits defeat and failure.

It would also help the other teams hitters more than the cardinals

What difference does that make, losing is losing. Unless you think the Cardinals won’t lose with the fences where they are.

If it won’t make a difference why move them in?

As I said, to help create more fan interest. Plus it would help increase the trade value of some of our hitters. How much more value, for instance would Donovan have if he hit closer to 20 home runs instead of 10. Just as an example.

And probably lower the trade value of pitchers and Donovan would have had to have stayed on the field to hit 20 even with the fences moved in

That’s all true, no argument here, but you have to agree, fan interest would be higher?
Mine main issue, though, why aren’t they trying to build a team better suited for the ball park they play in.
I hate to compare it to Whitey, but that’s exactly what he did, and got to the World Series 3 times in the 80’s. The team played great defense, got on base well, had exceptional speed, and had a couple of dominate pitchers, supplemented by a group of young guys.
That team only had two hall of Famers, Ozzie and Bruce, but a lot of Cardinal hall of Famers.

[45s]

We already have a third baseman who can hit 25 home runs while striking out a million times, and be terrible defensively. He's hardly making anything. Why would you pay 15 million for the same thing?

I don’t believe Suarez would have been a great fit for the Cardinals either, but he is going to play 1st base, not 3rd, and he hit over 40 home runs, not 25.

I bet he wouldn't hit more than 25 to 30 in St Louis. Anyway not an issue. We get to watch stormin Norman

Probably right.
One thing that baffles me, Busch III is a hard stadium to hit homers in, but the Cardinals haven’t even tried to build a team built for such a ballpark! They don’t have any true sluggers outside of Gorman, they were last in the league in triples, they don’t try to steal many bases, they just do not have a lot of team speed, and in the past they’ve concentrated on ground ball pitchers. Now, with the interest in the team at a low, bringing in the fences some, would help at least generate some. I can’t believe they didn’t try and help Goldie and Arenado a few seasons ago! That was one of Nolan’s biggest complaints. I just don’t understand their way of thinking!

I hate moving fences in. It admits defeat and failure.

It would also help the other teams hitters more than the cardinals

What difference does that make, losing is losing. Unless you think the Cardinals won’t lose with the fences where they are.

If it won’t make a difference why move them in?

As I said, to help create more fan interest. Plus it would help increase the trade value of some of our hitters. How much more value, for instance would Donovan have if he hit closer to 20 home runs instead of 10. Just as an example.

Any competent GM would know that the 20 homerun stat is phony as it the result of ballpark configuration…….and would not necessarily translate to his stadium…

It could hurt the Stl club because the player would present that 20 homerun stat in the arbitration process

[scoutyjones2]

Headed back to the Reds, 1 year for 15 mil + a mutual option year.

What a horrible left side of the field, defensively.

Looks like he'll be their primary DH

And/or 1b

[rockondlouie]

Headed back to the Reds, 1 year for 15 mil + a mutual option year.

What a horrible left side of the field, defensively.

Looks like he'll be their primary DH

And/or 1b

But if he was stationed at 3rd base, then you're spot on as he s u c k s (-6 DRS/-5 OAA).

Not quite Norman bad but pretty d a m n close.

[Carp4Cy]

Headed back to the Reds, 1 year for 15 mil + a mutual option year.

What a horrible left side of the field, defensively.

Looks like he'll be their primary DH

Good for them. meanwhile, we seemingly don't deserve a primary DH. Or a primary closer.

[BrockFloodMaris]

Headed back to the Reds, 1 year for 15 mil + a mutual option year.

What a horrible left side of the field, defensively.

Looks like he'll be their primary DH

Good for them. meanwhile, we seemingly don't deserve a primary DH. Or a primary closer.

Much has been written and said into microphones about the Cards being in a rebuild. Their current focus is not on the 2026 MLB roster. Instead, they are reinvesting in the internal development part of the organization. It has been estimated that 2026 and 2027 will not be on-field competitive years for the Cards. 2028 looks to be their target for competing. Focusing solely on the 2026 MLB roster will prove to be quite frustrating for those fans who don't understand or buy into what the Cards are trying to do. This will take some long-range thinking to accept. It will not satisfy the bumper sticker folks or the short attention span crowd.

[ClassicO]

Headed back to the Reds, 1 year for 15 mil + a mutual option year.

And back months ago when I said that he would be aperfect 3B for the Cards, I was told that we couldnt afford him.

Lol.

To review:

Donovan LF
Wetherholt 2B
Herrera C
Suarez 3B
Contreras 1B
Burleson DH
Walker RF
Winn SS
Scott II CF

Valdez
Gray
Pitcher acquired via trade
Liberatore
McGreevy

This was a suggestion I posted many times. This is a playoff team.

First, Suarez wouldn't get this team in the playoffs, even if they kept Willy. Not. A. Chance.
Second, Suarez is a butcher at 3b (-24 career DRS!). This team has poor enough defense without watching another DH at a skill position.
Third, Suarez declined badly in the second half (.189/.255/.428/.683 in 220 PAs), and he can't hit lefties.
I'd love him as a DH for the Cards but why would they pay $15M (more to get him here over Cincy) for one year on the Train to Nowhere?