TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 11:45 am
The names that have been mentioned in credible news reports were Cinjinte and Montes. Not that it would be both of them (though it was sort of implied), but those were the actual names reported on. It seemed like the majority on here wouldn't be in-favor of that deal. My opinion is that it's time to take a look in the mirror and realize that Brendan Donovan isn't Juan Soto, and we should very seriously consider a deal like the one above.
Bingo
I've said almost the same TLR
This is Donny we're trading, a really nice player for any contender in MLB to acquire but he's not a Super Star.
I'd take that deal any day.
Any time you're dealing w/prospects, ours or one's we trade for, there's risk and no sure things.
earp wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 12:38 pm
Emerson Hancock – Back-end / No. 4–5 starter type at this point. Former high pick, but more “MLB-ready innings” than upside now.
Tyler Locklear – headliner . Power-first corner bat with real HR upside, but some swing-and-miss and limited defensive value.
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 10:27 am
They would be my third or fourth choice, but they do have a good farm system and could put together a very good package for Donovan- if they would. They are notorious prospect hoarders.
For me it starts with Sloan, and ends there if they refuse to include him.
That's a hard get, but that is where it needs to start.
Their top 2 prospects are Colt Emerson and Kade Anderson. I will leave them alone.
Their next 5 prospects are;
3) Lazaro Montes
4) Ryan Sloan
5) Michael Arroyo
6) Jonny Farmelo
7) Jurrangelo Cijntje
If I'm trading with the Mariners, I have to come out with 2 of these, even if I have to add JoJo Romero to get it done. I also want 1 pitcher and 1 hitter. I don't really want Farmelo, as he has spent too much time injured.
So if I get the better pitcher (Sloan), I would accept the lesser hitter (Arroyo). If I get the lesser pitcher (Cijntje) I want the better hitter (Montes). If another team has not offered a better package, I could accept one of those deals.
I am not certain why you stated that Seattle would be your third or fourth choice. Compared to most teams, they have a great farm system. The Cards have added a lot of pitching already. If they could get both Montes and Arroyo for Donovan, I would do that deal. If they have to put in Romero to get that deal, I would do that too. The Cards have a serious lack of hitting prospects. Arroyo could be the next Donovan. Montes has boom or bust written all over him. But if one Montes or Josh Baez hits, the Cards are in good shape finally in the OF. If both of them hit, then we have a team.
Following this thread, I believe that Bloom is trying to get the best possible deal for Donovan. If the names being thrown around from Seattle are accurate I personally would be looking for a little more. Montes and Cijntje is a decent package but I would also be looking to acquire their Comp B pick also. Getting another top 50 pick in this draft could net us another quality prospect. If I had to settle on another prospect instead of the Comp B pick I would look to someone like Nick Becker. Adding a Romero to sweeten the deal a little isn’t the worst thing.
So for me I hope a Seattle deal looks something like
Cardinals trade
Donovan
Romero
Seattle trades
Montes (#3 prospect)
Cijntje (#7 prospect)
Comp B pick or Nick Becker
I think this would be a fair return for Donovan in a trade with Seattle. There has been no indication that Sloan is available from Seattle. I’m not sure it’s the best package available but I could accept this.
They certainly might. I believe that part of the holdup with Donovan is the mutual interest in Marte by some of the same teams. Once the Marte situation is resolved, I believe Donovan will happen quickly.
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 13:43 pm
Why wouldn't the Mariners just trade for Ketel Marte?
I think CT overvalues Hurdy Gurdy.
I also was shocked how much jack, the Dogturds threw at TGTE
Donovan has positional versatility which they need. He costs about a third of Marte's salary, and will take about half the prospect capital to acquire.
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 13:43 pm
Why wouldn't the Mariners just trade for Ketel Marte?
I think CT overvalues Hurdy Gurdy.
I also was shocked how much jack, the Dogturds threw at TGTE
Donovan has positional versatility which they need. He costs about a third of Marte's salary, and will take about half the prospect capital to acquire.
Donovan costs about a third of Marte today but Marte’s contract is pretty reasonable for the production he provides. Under contract through 2030 with an option in 2031 for 11.5 million. Donovan will be pushing Marte numbers when he becomes a FA. Donovan does have position flexibility but Marte is a superior offensive player.
Marte will make around 15 million this year and 12.5 million next year. Does jump up to 20 million in 2028-30. Some of this is deferred for Marte. That disposition will be decided when Marte is traded.
Marte is the more attractive offensive player but he can only be traded to one team. I think Donovan is affected by the Marte availability which Arizona will decide soon. Heck, they might decide to keep him unless they are overwhelmed by another team’s offer.
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 13:43 pm
Why wouldn't the Mariners just trade for Ketel Marte?
I think CT overvalues Hurdy Gurdy.
I also was shocked how much jack, the Dogturds threw at TGTE
Donovan has positional versatility which they need. He costs about a third of Marte's salary, and will take about half the prospect capital to acquire.
And isn't nearly as talented as Marte.
You get what you pay for...a tier less player in Hurdy vs Ketel
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 13:43 pm
Why wouldn't the Mariners just trade for Ketel Marte?
I think CT overvalues Hurdy Gurdy.
I also was shocked how much jack, the Dogturds threw at TGTE
Donovan has positional versatility which they need. He costs about a third of Marte's salary, and will take about half the prospect capital to acquire.
And isn't nearly as talented as Marte.
You get what you pay for...a tier less player in Hurdy vs Ketel
The mariners have been very adamant about not wanting to trade from their major league roster and it’s very unlikely they can get marte without trading one of the starters from their roster so that’s why I think they would probably prefer Donovan
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 13:43 pm
Why wouldn't the Mariners just trade for Ketel Marte?
I think CT overvalues Hurdy Gurdy.
I also was shocked how much jack, the Dogturds threw at TGTE
Donovan has positional versatility which they need. He costs about a third of Marte's salary, and will take about half the prospect capital to acquire.
And isn't nearly as talented as Marte.
You get what you pay for...a tier less player in Hurdy vs Ketel
You didn't ask who was more talented. No one is arguing that Marte is the better player. The Mariners have a tight budget and needs at a couple positions. It could be that Donovan does what they need done at a financial and prospect price they are more willing/able to pay.
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 13:43 pm
Why wouldn't the Mariners just trade for Ketel Marte?
I think CT overvalues Hurdy Gurdy.
I also was shocked how much jack, the Dogturds threw at TGTE
Donovan has positional versatility which they need. He costs about a third of Marte's salary, and will take about half the prospect capital to acquire.
And isn't nearly as talented as Marte.
You get what you pay for...a tier less player in Hurdy vs Ketel
The mariners have been very adamant about not wanting to trade from their major league roster and it’s very unlikely they can get marte without trading one of the starters from their roster so that’s why I think they would probably prefer Donovan
true. see link I just provided moments ago (above)
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2025 13:43 pm
Why wouldn't the Mariners just trade for Ketel Marte?
I think CT overvalues Hurdy Gurdy.
I also was shocked how much jack, the Dogturds threw at TGTE
Donovan has positional versatility which they need. He costs about a third of Marte's salary, and will take about half the prospect capital to acquire.
And isn't nearly as talented as Marte.
You get what you pay for...a tier less player in Hurdy vs Ketel
The mariners have been very adamant about not wanting to trade from their major league roster and it’s very unlikely they can get marte without trading one of the starters from their roster so that’s why I think they would probably prefer Donovan
true. see link I just provided moments ago (above)
lol oh thanks I didn’t see the link I had heard something about it on the radio this morning but good to read more about it on the link that might help the cardinals get better prospects for Donovan
I'm not relying on mlb trade rumors for cutting edge information, but if the info in your link is true, and they feel like they should add a sixth starter/longman, I would LOVE for them to have Pallante.
