I'd go Donovan, Mathews and Crooks or Bernal for Eldridge and a fairly high level pitching prospect.okcardfan wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 18:11 pm Good grief, Eldridge is a rare talent. I'd consider trading any Cardinal prospect for him straight up. Doubt the Giants would do that, though Posey as POBO might consider that plus Donovan. Donovan is great, but he's pretty replaceable, imo, and Eldridge is the kind of power talent that does not exist in the Cards system.
Goold Says San Fran Is In On Donovan
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Adam Dunn was ahead of his time. He’s basically the prototypical slugger in today’s game.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 16:36 pm If they would accept a package of Donovan, Nootbaar, and one of Pages/I. Henderson/Pallante, I would be all over that. They need help at C, 2B, OF, SP, and depth of any kind. Then you have to hope the kid isn't Adam Dunn.
Adam Dunn 2.0 just got 5 years/$150m from the Phillies today…
If the NL had the DH back then, people would be debating his HOF credentials.
That was some crazy Adam Dunn hate in that post. We WISH Gorman would turn into poor man’s Adam Dunn.
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That's way too much. Not a chance I'd give all that up for himShady wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 18:19 pmI'd go Donovan, Mathews and Crooks or Bernal for Eldridge and a fairly high level pitching prospect.okcardfan wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 18:11 pm Good grief, Eldridge is a rare talent. I'd consider trading any Cardinal prospect for him straight up. Doubt the Giants would do that, though Posey as POBO might consider that plus Donovan. Donovan is great, but he's pretty replaceable, imo, and Eldridge is the kind of power talent that does not exist in the Cards system.
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Bryce Eldridge would be a real get. But if we give up Clarke instead of getting another top pitching prospect for Donovan, we're going backwards. Is there another way? Donovan and Rainiel for Eldridge? No other pitching prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:47 pmif Clarke helped beget Eldridge, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:27 pmThis would be the kind of deal you want to do. But Donovan plus those guys no bueno. You have to make them want to do it. Let them pick a c prospect not named Rainiel and a pitcher not named Liam or Brandon Clarke.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 16:36 pm If they would accept a package of Donovan, Nootbaar, and one of Pages/I. Henderson/Pallante, I would be all over that. They need help at C, 2B, OF, SP, and depth of any kind. Then you have to hope the kid isn't Adam Dunn.
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To further your excellent point, Burleson is already proven to be a big-league hitter.
Since they are LH bats, there is no room for both of them to be in the 1B/DH mix.
Eldridge only makes sense if Bloom trades Burleson - and it that scenario there is no guarantee such a strategy would improve the team.
And there is a very real risk it would do the opposite.
SF does not look like much of a trade partner fit - unless a 3rd team would be involved......
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LHP is so clogged in our organization right now, it's our greatest strength. Clarke's ceiling is fantastic, but his floor is a huge drop off...just like Doyle...Reliever. Unlike Doyle, Clarke has major health concerns. I'm not married to Clarke...I can let him go if it's for the likes of Eldridge.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 18:58 pmBryce Eldridge would be a real get. But if we give up Clarke instead of getting another top pitching prospect for Donovan, we're going backwards. Is there another way? Donovan and Rainiel for Eldridge? No other pitching prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:47 pmif Clarke helped beget Eldridge, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:27 pmThis would be the kind of deal you want to do. But Donovan plus those guys no bueno. You have to make them want to do it. Let them pick a c prospect not named Rainiel and a pitcher not named Liam or Brandon Clarke.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 16:36 pm If they would accept a package of Donovan, Nootbaar, and one of Pages/I. Henderson/Pallante, I would be all over that. They need help at C, 2B, OF, SP, and depth of any kind. Then you have to hope the kid isn't Adam Dunn.
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When I think about it awhIle, I like Rainel better than Clarke. Do it. But now we have to run down some more pitching prospects. I do know I'm a lot happier with a legit power prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:02 pmLHP is so clogged in our organization right now, it's our greatest strength. Clarke's ceiling is fantastic, but his floor is a huge drop off...just like Doyle...Reliever. Unlike Doyle, Clarke has major health concerns. I'm not married to Clarke...I can let him go if it's for the likes of Eldridge.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 18:58 pmBryce Eldridge would be a real get. But if we give up Clarke instead of getting another top pitching prospect for Donovan, we're going backwards. Is there another way? Donovan and Rainiel for Eldridge? No other pitching prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:47 pmif Clarke helped beget Eldridge, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:27 pmThis would be the kind of deal you want to do. But Donovan plus those guys no bueno. You have to make them want to do it. Let them pick a c prospect not named Rainiel and a pitcher not named Liam or Brandon Clarke.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 16:36 pm If they would accept a package of Donovan, Nootbaar, and one of Pages/I. Henderson/Pallante, I would be all over that. They need help at C, 2B, OF, SP, and depth of any kind. Then you have to hope the kid isn't Adam Dunn.
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we have a HUGE need for RHP, CF, Corner OF, 3B and 1B....basically all Power Hitting positions. And RH hitters at that.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:13 pmWhen I think about it awhIle, I like Rainel better than Clarke. Do it. But now we have to run down some more pitching prospects. I do know I'm a lot happier with a legit power prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:02 pmLHP is so clogged in our organization right now, it's our greatest strength. Clarke's ceiling is fantastic, but his floor is a huge drop off...just like Doyle...Reliever. Unlike Doyle, Clarke has major health concerns. I'm not married to Clarke...I can let him go if it's for the likes of Eldridge.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 18:58 pmBryce Eldridge would be a real get. But if we give up Clarke instead of getting another top pitching prospect for Donovan, we're going backwards. Is there another way? Donovan and Rainiel for Eldridge? No other pitching prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:47 pmif Clarke helped beget Eldridge, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:27 pmThis would be the kind of deal you want to do. But Donovan plus those guys no bueno. You have to make them want to do it. Let them pick a c prospect not named Rainiel and a pitcher not named Liam or Brandon Clarke.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 16:36 pm If they would accept a package of Donovan, Nootbaar, and one of Pages/I. Henderson/Pallante, I would be all over that. They need help at C, 2B, OF, SP, and depth of any kind. Then you have to hope the kid isn't Adam Dunn.
It's a process, you have move several chess pieces to get where you need to get...and along the way, a prospect, that you didn't think about, comes into his own (Mautz 2025), and a younger hitter or pitcher on the MLB roster improves tremendously (here's hoping it's Gorman, Walker or Graceffo for example).
We're not done yet, not by a long shot.
I agree 100% on the pitching angle, I do...but if a guy who may strikeout a bit, but still hit for decent average and knocks the mess out of the ball comes along and you can get him...then do it. We need power hitters. In a bad way.
The problem there is we don't know if he's available...I don't know. This could all be Cards fans dreaming.
Re: Goold Says San Fran Is In On Donovan
MLBTR said they are "listening" on him, whatever that means. To me that means you have to make their ears perk up, just like the thought of getting Eldridge makes ours. Donovan, Clarke, and one of the catching prospects besides Rodriguez should do that.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:24 pmwe have a HUGE need for RHP, CF, Corner OF, 3B and 1B....basically all Power Hitting positions. And RH hitters at that.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:13 pmWhen I think about it awhIle, I like Rainel better than Clarke. Do it. But now we have to run down some more pitching prospects. I do know I'm a lot happier with a legit power prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:02 pmLHP is so clogged in our organization right now, it's our greatest strength. Clarke's ceiling is fantastic, but his floor is a huge drop off...just like Doyle...Reliever. Unlike Doyle, Clarke has major health concerns. I'm not married to Clarke...I can let him go if it's for the likes of Eldridge.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 18:58 pmBryce Eldridge would be a real get. But if we give up Clarke instead of getting another top pitching prospect for Donovan, we're going backwards. Is there another way? Donovan and Rainiel for Eldridge? No other pitching prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:47 pmif Clarke helped beget Eldridge, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:27 pmThis would be the kind of deal you want to do. But Donovan plus those guys no bueno. You have to make them want to do it. Let them pick a c prospect not named Rainiel and a pitcher not named Liam or Brandon Clarke.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 16:36 pm If they would accept a package of Donovan, Nootbaar, and one of Pages/I. Henderson/Pallante, I would be all over that. They need help at C, 2B, OF, SP, and depth of any kind. Then you have to hope the kid isn't Adam Dunn.
It's a process, you have move several chess pieces to get where you need to get...and along the way, a prospect, that you didn't think about, comes into his own (Mautz 2025), and a younger hitter or pitcher on the MLB roster improves tremendously (here's hoping it's Gorman, Walker or Graceffo for example).
We're not done yet, not by a long shot.
I agree 100% on the pitching angle, I do...but if a guy who may strikeout a bit, but still hit for decent average and knocks the mess out of the ball comes along and you can get him...then do it. We need power hitters. In a bad way.
The problem there is we don't know if he's available...I don't know. This could all be Cards fans dreaming.![]()
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really? Nice...okay, so this speculation is making a bit more sense now2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:46 pmMLBTR said they are "listening" on him, whatever that means. To me that means you have to make their ears perk up, just like the thought of getting Eldridge makes ours. Donovan, Clarke, and one of the catching prospects besides Rodriguez should do that.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:24 pmwe have a HUGE need for RHP, CF, Corner OF, 3B and 1B....basically all Power Hitting positions. And RH hitters at that.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:13 pmWhen I think about it awhIle, I like Rainel better than Clarke. Do it. But now we have to run down some more pitching prospects. I do know I'm a lot happier with a legit power prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:02 pmLHP is so clogged in our organization right now, it's our greatest strength. Clarke's ceiling is fantastic, but his floor is a huge drop off...just like Doyle...Reliever. Unlike Doyle, Clarke has major health concerns. I'm not married to Clarke...I can let him go if it's for the likes of Eldridge.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 18:58 pmBryce Eldridge would be a real get. But if we give up Clarke instead of getting another top pitching prospect for Donovan, we're going backwards. Is there another way? Donovan and Rainiel for Eldridge? No other pitching prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:47 pmif Clarke helped beget Eldridge, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:27 pmThis would be the kind of deal you want to do. But Donovan plus those guys no bueno. You have to make them want to do it. Let them pick a c prospect not named Rainiel and a pitcher not named Liam or Brandon Clarke.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 16:36 pm If they would accept a package of Donovan, Nootbaar, and one of Pages/I. Henderson/Pallante, I would be all over that. They need help at C, 2B, OF, SP, and depth of any kind. Then you have to hope the kid isn't Adam Dunn.
It's a process, you have move several chess pieces to get where you need to get...and along the way, a prospect, that you didn't think about, comes into his own (Mautz 2025), and a younger hitter or pitcher on the MLB roster improves tremendously (here's hoping it's Gorman, Walker or Graceffo for example).
We're not done yet, not by a long shot.
I agree 100% on the pitching angle, I do...but if a guy who may strikeout a bit, but still hit for decent average and knocks the mess out of the ball comes along and you can get him...then do it. We need power hitters. In a bad way.
The problem there is we don't know if he's available...I don't know. This could all be Cards fans dreaming.![]()
Part with Crooks or Bernal....rather it be Crooks. Bernal calls and receives a terrific game (see the entire 2025 Springfield pitching staff if anyone needs convincing), and his out crouch to release time is top notch. Better arm. I'd keep Bernal over Crooks.
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Here's a nice article out of San Fran.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:50 pmreally? Nice...okay, so this speculation is making a bit more sense now2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:46 pmMLBTR said they are "listening" on him, whatever that means. To me that means you have to make their ears perk up, just like the thought of getting Eldridge makes ours. Donovan, Clarke, and one of the catching prospects besides Rodriguez should do that.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:24 pmwe have a HUGE need for RHP, CF, Corner OF, 3B and 1B....basically all Power Hitting positions. And RH hitters at that.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:13 pmWhen I think about it awhIle, I like Rainel better than Clarke. Do it. But now we have to run down some more pitching prospects. I do know I'm a lot happier with a legit power prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:02 pmLHP is so clogged in our organization right now, it's our greatest strength. Clarke's ceiling is fantastic, but his floor is a huge drop off...just like Doyle...Reliever. Unlike Doyle, Clarke has major health concerns. I'm not married to Clarke...I can let him go if it's for the likes of Eldridge.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 18:58 pmBryce Eldridge would be a real get. But if we give up Clarke instead of getting another top pitching prospect for Donovan, we're going backwards. Is there another way? Donovan and Rainiel for Eldridge? No other pitching prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:47 pmif Clarke helped beget Eldridge, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:27 pmThis would be the kind of deal you want to do. But Donovan plus those guys no bueno. You have to make them want to do it. Let them pick a c prospect not named Rainiel and a pitcher not named Liam or Brandon Clarke.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 16:36 pm If they would accept a package of Donovan, Nootbaar, and one of Pages/I. Henderson/Pallante, I would be all over that. They need help at C, 2B, OF, SP, and depth of any kind. Then you have to hope the kid isn't Adam Dunn.
It's a process, you have move several chess pieces to get where you need to get...and along the way, a prospect, that you didn't think about, comes into his own (Mautz 2025), and a younger hitter or pitcher on the MLB roster improves tremendously (here's hoping it's Gorman, Walker or Graceffo for example).
We're not done yet, not by a long shot.
I agree 100% on the pitching angle, I do...but if a guy who may strikeout a bit, but still hit for decent average and knocks the mess out of the ball comes along and you can get him...then do it. We need power hitters. In a bad way.
The problem there is we don't know if he's available...I don't know. This could all be Cards fans dreaming.![]()
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Part with Crooks or Bernal....rather it be Crooks. Bernal calls and receives a terrific game (see the entire 2025 Springfield pitching staff if anyone needs convincing), and his out crouch to release time is top notch. Better arm. I'd keep Bernal over Crooks.
Analyzing Giants Rookie Bryce Eldridge’s Trade Status at Winter Meetings https://share.google/kbFagsOAZaK6SS0hh
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So....Devers is blocking Eldridge at DH...but not 1B? And they have a need for Donovan. And then the talk of them assessing value, but not actively looking to move Eldridge is to maintain the position of strength in trade talks?2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:55 pmHere's a nice article out of San Fran.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:50 pmreally? Nice...okay, so this speculation is making a bit more sense now2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:46 pmMLBTR said they are "listening" on him, whatever that means. To me that means you have to make their ears perk up, just like the thought of getting Eldridge makes ours. Donovan, Clarke, and one of the catching prospects besides Rodriguez should do that.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:24 pmwe have a HUGE need for RHP, CF, Corner OF, 3B and 1B....basically all Power Hitting positions. And RH hitters at that.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:13 pmWhen I think about it awhIle, I like Rainel better than Clarke. Do it. But now we have to run down some more pitching prospects. I do know I'm a lot happier with a legit power prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:02 pmLHP is so clogged in our organization right now, it's our greatest strength. Clarke's ceiling is fantastic, but his floor is a huge drop off...just like Doyle...Reliever. Unlike Doyle, Clarke has major health concerns. I'm not married to Clarke...I can let him go if it's for the likes of Eldridge.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 18:58 pmBryce Eldridge would be a real get. But if we give up Clarke instead of getting another top pitching prospect for Donovan, we're going backwards. Is there another way? Donovan and Rainiel for Eldridge? No other pitching prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:47 pmif Clarke helped beget Eldridge, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:27 pmThis would be the kind of deal you want to do. But Donovan plus those guys no bueno. You have to make them want to do it. Let them pick a c prospect not named Rainiel and a pitcher not named Liam or Brandon Clarke.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 16:36 pm If they would accept a package of Donovan, Nootbaar, and one of Pages/I. Henderson/Pallante, I would be all over that. They need help at C, 2B, OF, SP, and depth of any kind. Then you have to hope the kid isn't Adam Dunn.
It's a process, you have move several chess pieces to get where you need to get...and along the way, a prospect, that you didn't think about, comes into his own (Mautz 2025), and a younger hitter or pitcher on the MLB roster improves tremendously (here's hoping it's Gorman, Walker or Graceffo for example).
We're not done yet, not by a long shot.
I agree 100% on the pitching angle, I do...but if a guy who may strikeout a bit, but still hit for decent average and knocks the mess out of the ball comes along and you can get him...then do it. We need power hitters. In a bad way.
The problem there is we don't know if he's available...I don't know. This could all be Cards fans dreaming.![]()
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Part with Crooks or Bernal....rather it be Crooks. Bernal calls and receives a terrific game (see the entire 2025 Springfield pitching staff if anyone needs convincing), and his out crouch to release time is top notch. Better arm. I'd keep Bernal over Crooks.
Analyzing Giants Rookie Bryce Eldridge’s Trade Status at Winter Meetings https://share.google/kbFagsOAZaK6SS0hh
Maybe I'm overanalyzing this....and Eldridge probably isn't involved in talks with Donovan acquisition...who knows? I'm with Talkin'Baseball...I can't see anything other than Dakota Jordan as a "want" from the Cards position. I'd pass if the talks didn't include Eldridge.
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Just for fun- I don't have btv but I can google my way around it. Eldridge is 51 ish Donovan 32 ishcraviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 20:00 pmSo....Devers is blocking Eldridge at DH...but not 1B? And they have a need for Donovan. And then the talk of them assessing value, but not actively looking to move Eldridge is to maintain the position of strength in trade talks?2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:55 pmHere's a nice article out of San Fran.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:50 pmreally? Nice...okay, so this speculation is making a bit more sense now2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:46 pmMLBTR said they are "listening" on him, whatever that means. To me that means you have to make their ears perk up, just like the thought of getting Eldridge makes ours. Donovan, Clarke, and one of the catching prospects besides Rodriguez should do that.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:24 pmwe have a HUGE need for RHP, CF, Corner OF, 3B and 1B....basically all Power Hitting positions. And RH hitters at that.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:13 pmWhen I think about it awhIle, I like Rainel better than Clarke. Do it. But now we have to run down some more pitching prospects. I do know I'm a lot happier with a legit power prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:02 pmLHP is so clogged in our organization right now, it's our greatest strength. Clarke's ceiling is fantastic, but his floor is a huge drop off...just like Doyle...Reliever. Unlike Doyle, Clarke has major health concerns. I'm not married to Clarke...I can let him go if it's for the likes of Eldridge.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 18:58 pmBryce Eldridge would be a real get. But if we give up Clarke instead of getting another top pitching prospect for Donovan, we're going backwards. Is there another way? Donovan and Rainiel for Eldridge? No other pitching prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:47 pmif Clarke helped beget Eldridge, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:27 pmThis would be the kind of deal you want to do. But Donovan plus those guys no bueno. You have to make them want to do it. Let them pick a c prospect not named Rainiel and a pitcher not named Liam or Brandon Clarke.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 16:36 pm If they would accept a package of Donovan, Nootbaar, and one of Pages/I. Henderson/Pallante, I would be all over that. They need help at C, 2B, OF, SP, and depth of any kind. Then you have to hope the kid isn't Adam Dunn.
It's a process, you have move several chess pieces to get where you need to get...and along the way, a prospect, that you didn't think about, comes into his own (Mautz 2025), and a younger hitter or pitcher on the MLB roster improves tremendously (here's hoping it's Gorman, Walker or Graceffo for example).
We're not done yet, not by a long shot.
I agree 100% on the pitching angle, I do...but if a guy who may strikeout a bit, but still hit for decent average and knocks the mess out of the ball comes along and you can get him...then do it. We need power hitters. In a bad way.
The problem there is we don't know if he's available...I don't know. This could all be Cards fans dreaming.![]()
.
Part with Crooks or Bernal....rather it be Crooks. Bernal calls and receives a terrific game (see the entire 2025 Springfield pitching staff if anyone needs convincing), and his out crouch to release time is top notch. Better arm. I'd keep Bernal over Crooks.
Analyzing Giants Rookie Bryce Eldridge’s Trade Status at Winter Meetings https://share.google/kbFagsOAZaK6SS0hh
Maybe I'm overanalyzing this....and Eldridge probably isn't involved in talks with Donovan acquisition...who knows? I'm with Talkin'Baseball...I can't see anything other than Dakota Jordan as a "want" from the Cards position. I'd pass if the talks didn't include Eldridge.
Crooks and Clarke would make it a slight overpay. So it isn't a stupid offer. Now they just have to say yes.
Re: Goold Says San Fran Is In On Donovan
Plug in Mathews instead of Clarke. No matter what the btv says.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 20:10 pmJust for fun- I don't have btv but I can google my way around it. Eldridge is 51 ish Donovan 32 ishcraviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 20:00 pmSo....Devers is blocking Eldridge at DH...but not 1B? And they have a need for Donovan. And then the talk of them assessing value, but not actively looking to move Eldridge is to maintain the position of strength in trade talks?2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:55 pmHere's a nice article out of San Fran.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:50 pmreally? Nice...okay, so this speculation is making a bit more sense now2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:46 pmMLBTR said they are "listening" on him, whatever that means. To me that means you have to make their ears perk up, just like the thought of getting Eldridge makes ours. Donovan, Clarke, and one of the catching prospects besides Rodriguez should do that.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:24 pmwe have a HUGE need for RHP, CF, Corner OF, 3B and 1B....basically all Power Hitting positions. And RH hitters at that.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:13 pmWhen I think about it awhIle, I like Rainel better than Clarke. Do it. But now we have to run down some more pitching prospects. I do know I'm a lot happier with a legit power prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:02 pmLHP is so clogged in our organization right now, it's our greatest strength. Clarke's ceiling is fantastic, but his floor is a huge drop off...just like Doyle...Reliever. Unlike Doyle, Clarke has major health concerns. I'm not married to Clarke...I can let him go if it's for the likes of Eldridge.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 18:58 pmBryce Eldridge would be a real get. But if we give up Clarke instead of getting another top pitching prospect for Donovan, we're going backwards. Is there another way? Donovan and Rainiel for Eldridge? No other pitching prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:47 pmif Clarke helped beget Eldridge, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:27 pmThis would be the kind of deal you want to do. But Donovan plus those guys no bueno. You have to make them want to do it. Let them pick a c prospect not named Rainiel and a pitcher not named Liam or Brandon Clarke.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 16:36 pm If they would accept a package of Donovan, Nootbaar, and one of Pages/I. Henderson/Pallante, I would be all over that. They need help at C, 2B, OF, SP, and depth of any kind. Then you have to hope the kid isn't Adam Dunn.
It's a process, you have move several chess pieces to get where you need to get...and along the way, a prospect, that you didn't think about, comes into his own (Mautz 2025), and a younger hitter or pitcher on the MLB roster improves tremendously (here's hoping it's Gorman, Walker or Graceffo for example).
We're not done yet, not by a long shot.
I agree 100% on the pitching angle, I do...but if a guy who may strikeout a bit, but still hit for decent average and knocks the mess out of the ball comes along and you can get him...then do it. We need power hitters. In a bad way.
The problem there is we don't know if he's available...I don't know. This could all be Cards fans dreaming.![]()
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Part with Crooks or Bernal....rather it be Crooks. Bernal calls and receives a terrific game (see the entire 2025 Springfield pitching staff if anyone needs convincing), and his out crouch to release time is top notch. Better arm. I'd keep Bernal over Crooks.
Analyzing Giants Rookie Bryce Eldridge’s Trade Status at Winter Meetings https://share.google/kbFagsOAZaK6SS0hh
Maybe I'm overanalyzing this....and Eldridge probably isn't involved in talks with Donovan acquisition...who knows? I'm with Talkin'Baseball...I can't see anything other than Dakota Jordan as a "want" from the Cards position. I'd pass if the talks didn't include Eldridge.
Crooks and Clarke would make it a slight overpay. So it isn't a stupid offer. Now they just have to say yes.
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Re: Goold Says San Fran Is In On Donovan
Will be really interesting to see if Bloom pulls off a big deal of some sort, moving Donovan and a couple of other pieces in one shot. Often these deals happen after the meetings. None of us really have any idea what is going on....... but hey, it's hot stove league time..... I will miss Donovan's ABs. He took better ones than almost anyone else....
Re: Goold Says San Fran Is In On Donovan
we can always take another one of their prospects or IFA bonus pool to even it out2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 20:10 pmJust for fun- I don't have btv but I can google my way around it. Eldridge is 51 ish Donovan 32 ishcraviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 20:00 pmSo....Devers is blocking Eldridge at DH...but not 1B? And they have a need for Donovan. And then the talk of them assessing value, but not actively looking to move Eldridge is to maintain the position of strength in trade talks?2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:55 pmHere's a nice article out of San Fran.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:50 pmreally? Nice...okay, so this speculation is making a bit more sense now2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:46 pmMLBTR said they are "listening" on him, whatever that means. To me that means you have to make their ears perk up, just like the thought of getting Eldridge makes ours. Donovan, Clarke, and one of the catching prospects besides Rodriguez should do that.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:24 pmwe have a HUGE need for RHP, CF, Corner OF, 3B and 1B....basically all Power Hitting positions. And RH hitters at that.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:13 pmWhen I think about it awhIle, I like Rainel better than Clarke. Do it. But now we have to run down some more pitching prospects. I do know I'm a lot happier with a legit power prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 19:02 pmLHP is so clogged in our organization right now, it's our greatest strength. Clarke's ceiling is fantastic, but his floor is a huge drop off...just like Doyle...Reliever. Unlike Doyle, Clarke has major health concerns. I'm not married to Clarke...I can let him go if it's for the likes of Eldridge.2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 18:58 pmBryce Eldridge would be a real get. But if we give up Clarke instead of getting another top pitching prospect for Donovan, we're going backwards. Is there another way? Donovan and Rainiel for Eldridge? No other pitching prospect.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:47 pmif Clarke helped beget Eldridge, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat2ninr wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 17:27 pmThis would be the kind of deal you want to do. But Donovan plus those guys no bueno. You have to make them want to do it. Let them pick a c prospect not named Rainiel and a pitcher not named Liam or Brandon Clarke.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025 16:36 pm If they would accept a package of Donovan, Nootbaar, and one of Pages/I. Henderson/Pallante, I would be all over that. They need help at C, 2B, OF, SP, and depth of any kind. Then you have to hope the kid isn't Adam Dunn.
It's a process, you have move several chess pieces to get where you need to get...and along the way, a prospect, that you didn't think about, comes into his own (Mautz 2025), and a younger hitter or pitcher on the MLB roster improves tremendously (here's hoping it's Gorman, Walker or Graceffo for example).
We're not done yet, not by a long shot.
I agree 100% on the pitching angle, I do...but if a guy who may strikeout a bit, but still hit for decent average and knocks the mess out of the ball comes along and you can get him...then do it. We need power hitters. In a bad way.
The problem there is we don't know if he's available...I don't know. This could all be Cards fans dreaming.![]()
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Part with Crooks or Bernal....rather it be Crooks. Bernal calls and receives a terrific game (see the entire 2025 Springfield pitching staff if anyone needs convincing), and his out crouch to release time is top notch. Better arm. I'd keep Bernal over Crooks.
Analyzing Giants Rookie Bryce Eldridge’s Trade Status at Winter Meetings https://share.google/kbFagsOAZaK6SS0hh
Maybe I'm overanalyzing this....and Eldridge probably isn't involved in talks with Donovan acquisition...who knows? I'm with Talkin'Baseball...I can't see anything other than Dakota Jordan as a "want" from the Cards position. I'd pass if the talks didn't include Eldridge.
Crooks and Clarke would make it a slight overpay. So it isn't a stupid offer. Now they just have to say yes.