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Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 05 Dec 2025 16:02 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
I don’t know. I’m sure that he does have a lot of different teams would love to have him. He’s versatile, so I would imagine that there are different teams with different needs, and Donovan is a guy that can play all over the place. But does having a “massive” amount of teams in on a player mean that he is going to bring back a huge return? I’m not so sure.

I guess it means that the Cardinals can be selective, which is great. I’d rather have a bunch of options. I just don’t expect some huge haul for a guy is a (bleep) good player, but his ceiling kind of is what it is.

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 05 Dec 2025 16:03 pm
by blackinkbiz
If I'm not mistaken, I believe Katie Woo said on 101ESPN yesterday, something along the lines of "IF Brendan Donovan can net a top-100 prospect, the Cardinals should definitely be listening..."

That's paraphrased as I was in the middle of adding wiper fluid to my car but while Donny is no Juan Soto, he better bring back more than a single top-100 prospect.

Now, a top-30 prospect, 4sho, but he's worth more than some random guy ranked in the 70's.

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 05 Dec 2025 16:14 pm
by Shady
blackinkbiz wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:03 pm If I'm not mistaken, I believe Katie Woo said on 101ESPN yesterday, something along the lines of "IF Brendan Donovan can net a top-100 prospect, the Cardinals should definitely be listening..."

That's paraphrased as I was in the middle of adding wiper fluid to my car but while Donny is no Juan Soto, he better bring back more than a single top-100 prospect.

Now, a top-30 prospect, 4sho, but he's worth more than some random guy ranked in the 70's.
Bloom needs to holdout for both a high level starting pitching prospect. And a high level power hitting prospect at a position of need.

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 05 Dec 2025 16:18 pm
by Jatalk
MLB ready or near ready or trading Donovan is a bust.

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 05 Dec 2025 16:22 pm
by imyourhuckleberry
I think Bloom already has a very good idea of what kind of return he's gonna get for BD. Now he's working on getting a bidding war going to increase the return.

I'm going with 3:00pm EST on day 2 for the announcement.

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 05 Dec 2025 16:26 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:22 pm I think Bloom already has a very good idea of what kind of return he's gonna get for BD. Now he's working on getting a bidding war going to increase the return.

I'm going with 3:00pm EST on day 2 for the announcement.
I could see that.

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 05 Dec 2025 16:28 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:22 pm I think Bloom already has a very good idea of what kind of return he's gonna get for BD. Now he's working on getting a bidding war going to increase the return.

I'm going with 3:00pm EST on day 2 for the announcement.
Agree with the first sentence, but not convinced that he’ll be getting any bidding wars started. Think a lot of teams would like to have a player like Donovan, but I am not too sure that he’s a good enough player to get them too far out of their comfort zone. I guess that’s Bloom’s job, though. Just convince one team to go a bit over their comfort level, if possible.

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 05 Dec 2025 16:31 pm
by Shady
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:28 pm
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:22 pm I think Bloom already has a very good idea of what kind of return he's gonna get for BD. Now he's working on getting a bidding war going to increase the return.

I'm going with 3:00pm EST on day 2 for the announcement.
Agree with the first sentence, but not convinced that he’ll be getting any bidding wars started. Think a lot of teams would like to have a player like Donovan, but I am not too sure that he’s a good enough player to get them too far out of their comfort zone. I guess that’s Bloom’s job, though. Just convince one team to go a bit over their comfort level, if possible.
This is going to be a good measuring stick of Bloom's ability to maximize a great trade chip.

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 05 Dec 2025 16:38 pm
by imyourhuckleberry
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:28 pm
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:22 pm I think Bloom already has a very good idea of what kind of return he's gonna get for BD. Now he's working on getting a bidding war going to increase the return.

I'm going with 3:00pm EST on day 2 for the announcement.
Agree with the first sentence, but not convinced that he’ll be getting any bidding wars started. Think a lot of teams would like to have a player like Donovan, but I am not too sure that he’s a good enough player to get them too far out of their comfort zone. I guess that’s Bloom’s job, though. Just convince one team to go a bit over their comfort level, if possible.
He may not get a bidding war going, but it's incumbent upon him to try. And "bidding war" is relative. Could just be trying to get one team to sweeten the pot just a little.

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 05 Dec 2025 16:41 pm
by AZ_Cardsfan
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:38 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:28 pm
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:22 pm I think Bloom already has a very good idea of what kind of return he's gonna get for BD. Now he's working on getting a bidding war going to increase the return.

I'm going with 3:00pm EST on day 2 for the announcement.
Agree with the first sentence, but not convinced that he’ll be getting any bidding wars started. Think a lot of teams would like to have a player like Donovan, but I am not too sure that he’s a good enough player to get them too far out of their comfort zone. I guess that’s Bloom’s job, though. Just convince one team to go a bit over their comfort level, if possible.
He may not get a bidding war going, but it's incumbent upon him to try. And "bidding war" is relative. Could just be trying to get one team to sweeten the pot just a little.
It is his job to maximize return. If he has two or more teams interested maybe he gets one to give a slight overpay. We can hope.

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 05 Dec 2025 16:44 pm
by imyourhuckleberry
AZ_Cardsfan wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:41 pm
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:38 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:28 pm
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:22 pm I think Bloom already has a very good idea of what kind of return he's gonna get for BD. Now he's working on getting a bidding war going to increase the return.

I'm going with 3:00pm EST on day 2 for the announcement.
Agree with the first sentence, but not convinced that he’ll be getting any bidding wars started. Think a lot of teams would like to have a player like Donovan, but I am not too sure that he’s a good enough player to get them too far out of their comfort zone. I guess that’s Bloom’s job, though. Just convince one team to go a bit over their comfort level, if possible.
He may not get a bidding war going, but it's incumbent upon him to try. And "bidding war" is relative. Could just be trying to get one team to sweeten the pot just a little.
It is his job to maximize return. If he has two or more teams interested maybe he gets one to give a slight overpay. We can hope.
Exactly. It just takes one over-eager GM to be a little too in love with BD.

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 09 Dec 2025 20:57 pm
by 82birds
from MLBTR:
A Donovan trade, if it happens at all, doesn’t appear to be imminent. Goold writes that president of baseball operations Chaim Bloom and his staff are taking their time to evaluate offers. Ryan Divish and Adam Jude of The Seattle Times write similarly that Donovan is not expected to be moved before the end of the week.

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 09 Dec 2025 21:03 pm
by ramfandan
Seems to me that with 4 or so 'very serious' suitors for Donovan that Bloom's scouts etc. are pouring over the prospect lists of those clubs.
That involves a lot of hours of narrowing down with prospect types you are targeting for each team . From one article I read, another unnamed team said the Cardinals are being cautious on which players they are seeking from various teams.

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 09 Dec 2025 21:11 pm
by scoutyjones2
Shady wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:14 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: 05 Dec 2025 16:03 pm If I'm not mistaken, I believe Katie Woo said on 101ESPN yesterday, something along the lines of "IF Brendan Donovan can net a top-100 prospect, the Cardinals should definitely be listening..."

That's paraphrased as I was in the middle of adding wiper fluid to my car but while Donny is no Juan Soto, he better bring back more than a single top-100 prospect.

Now, a top-30 prospect, 4sho, but he's worth more than some random guy ranked in the 70's.
Bloom needs to holdout for both a high level starting pitching prospect. And a high level power hitting prospect at a position of need.
Shut up Bobo

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 09 Dec 2025 21:12 pm
by scoutyjones2
ramfandan wrote: 09 Dec 2025 21:03 pm Seems to me that with 4 or so 'very serious' suitors for Donovan that Bloom's scouts etc. are pouring over the prospect lists of those clubs.
That involves a lot of hours of narrowing down with prospect types you are targeting for each team . From one article I read, another unnamed team said the Cardinals are being cautious on which players they are seeking from various teams.
It doesn't take hours, certainly not days, if they did their due diligence on teams prospects. They should have understood what they wanted from teams for him, and come prepared

Re: B. Donovan trade market "ON FIRE" per S.I.

Posted: 09 Dec 2025 21:16 pm
by ecleme22
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Dec 2025 21:12 pm
ramfandan wrote: 09 Dec 2025 21:03 pm Seems to me that with 4 or so 'very serious' suitors for Donovan that Bloom's scouts etc. are pouring over the prospect lists of those clubs.
That involves a lot of hours of narrowing down with prospect types you are targeting for each team . From one article I read, another unnamed team said the Cardinals are being cautious on which players they are seeking from various teams.
It doesn't take hours, certainly not days, if they did their due diligence on teams prospects. They should have understood what they wanted from teams for him, and come prepared
Exactly.

This ain't some 50 year old man looking up a box score. Bloom's squad should have eyes on certain people in each org, while also having scouting on the rest...