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Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 14:29 pm Getting the Yankees top two pitching prospects, Lagrange and Rodriguez, for Donovan would be a bonanza. Wouldn't the Cardinals have to add something?

FWIW, per BTV:

Brendan Donovan: 32.1

FOR

Carlos Lagrange: 4.9
“OR” (as stated in the article, not “and”)
Elmer Rodriguez: 6.0

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 14:53 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 14:29 pm Getting the Yankees top two pitching prospects, Lagrange and Rodriguez, for Donovan would be a bonanza. Wouldn't the Cardinals have to add something?

FWIW, per BTV:

Brendan Donovan: 32.1

FOR

Carlos Lagrange: 4.9
“OR” (as stated in the article, not “and”)
Elmer Rodriguez: 6.0

Exactly! I love Hot Stove talk as much as anyone, but these are all trash proposals and aren't worth discussing. Most Cards Talkers could write more compelling articles than that one.

these inane, repetitive, Shady Trade OP's :

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:09 pm

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 14:53 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 14:29 pm Getting the Yankees top two pitching prospects, Lagrange and Rodriguez, for Donovan would be a bonanza. Wouldn't the Cardinals have to add something?

FWIW, per BTV:

Brendan Donovan: 32.1

FOR

Carlos Lagrange: 4.9
“OR” (as stated in the article, not “and”)
Elmer Rodriguez: 6.0

Exactly! I love Hot Stove talk as much as anyone, but these are all trash proposals and aren't worth discussing. Most Cards Talkers could write more compelling articles than that one.

Write one then. Let's see what you got.

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:53 pm these inane, repetitive, Shady Trade OP's :

I don't see many invigorating trade OPs/proposals from you.

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:57 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:53 pm these inane, repetitive, Shady Trade OP's :

I don't see many invigorating trade OPs/proposals from you.

If you learned to read your own threads, I tell you time and time again the type of players we can expect in return. And once you share an original "Invigorating Trade Proposal"....then I will.

Until then...Happy Gobbler Day, you Turkey

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:55 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:09 pm

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 14:53 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 14:29 pm Getting the Yankees top two pitching prospects, Lagrange and Rodriguez, for Donovan would be a bonanza. Wouldn't the Cardinals have to add something?

FWIW, per BTV:

Brendan Donovan: 32.1

FOR

Carlos Lagrange: 4.9
“OR” (as stated in the article, not “and”)
Elmer Rodriguez: 6.0

Exactly! I love Hot Stove talk as much as anyone, but these are all trash proposals and aren't worth discussing. Most Cards Talkers could write more compelling articles than that one.

Write one then. Let's see what you got.

Until you give an honest, good faith try at actual baseball discussion....until then....

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 16:01 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:57 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:53 pm these inane, repetitive, Shady Trade OP's :

I don't see many invigorating trade OPs/proposals from you.

If you learned to read your own threads, I tell you time and time again the type of players we can expect in return. And once you share an original "Invigorating Trade Proposal"....then I will.

Until then...Happy Gobbler Day, you Turkey

Cop out, again. We need some games so you can make yourself useful. Good reporter. By the way, you claim that trading Donovan won't get an All Star caliber player in return. Later, a poster felt that's what the return should be. It's just Hot Stove talk. Don't be so vindictive.

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:53 pm these inane, repetitive, Shady Trade OP's :

It all makes sense when one realizes the linked articles and thread titles/topics are just pretexts.

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:55 pm

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:09 pm

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 14:53 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 14:29 pm Getting the Yankees top two pitching prospects, Lagrange and Rodriguez, for Donovan would be a bonanza. Wouldn't the Cardinals have to add something?

FWIW, per BTV:

Brendan Donovan: 32.1

FOR

Carlos Lagrange: 4.9
“OR” (as stated in the article, not “and”)
Elmer Rodriguez: 6.0

Exactly! I love Hot Stove talk as much as anyone, but these are all trash proposals and aren't worth discussing. Most Cards Talkers could write more compelling articles than that one.

Write one then. Let's see what you got.

I would love to do that. I am always concerned that my posts on here are too long. There is a difference between an article and a post. Scouty will be the first to tell me that nobody wants to read a novel on here.

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 09:47 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/th ... 2603&ei=10

I would take scenario #3 - trade Donovan for Noah Cameron, straight up.

12xu wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 17:14 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 09:47 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/th ... 2603&ei=10

I would take scenario #3 - trade Donovan for Noah Cameron, straight up.

Cameron is the left-handed Michael McGreevy. Is that okay? He's a fine pitcher, but we just saw his ceiling. KC would jump on that.

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 16:04 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 16:01 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:57 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:53 pm these inane, repetitive, Shady Trade OP's :

I don't see many invigorating trade OPs/proposals from you.

If you learned to read your own threads, I tell you time and time again the type of players we can expect in return. And once you share an original "Invigorating Trade Proposal"....then I will.

Until then...Happy Gobbler Day, you Turkey

Cop out, again. We need some games so you can make yourself useful. Good reporter. By the way, you claim that trading Donovan won't get an All Star caliber player in return. Later, a poster felt that's what the return should be. It's just Hot Stove talk. Don't be so vindictive.

It will 100 percent not return an all star

zuck698 wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 14:35 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 14:29 pm The Yankees two top pitching prospects would be a bonanza.

I think George Bowles from MSM is talking from his Bowels! We are never going to get Lagrange and Hess for Donovan. I will have some of what he is smoking. You got to just say no to MSM for trade proposals in the future Shady. They are usually not in align with realistic thoughts.

As I said above Shady, please in the name of God, quit posting trade proposals from MSM or any other AI generated sites you come up with this junk. I would prefer you come up with your own proposal, and then the crowd here probably wouldn't beat you up so bad, due to the fact you actually put some thought in to it! Otherwise, prepare to continue to get hammered by the board. Your call Shader...

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 17:19 pm

12xu wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 17:14 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 09:47 am https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/th ... 2603&ei=10

I would take scenario #3 - trade Donovan for Noah Cameron, straight up.

Cameron is the left-handed Michael McGreevy. Is that okay? He's a fine pitcher, but we just saw his ceiling. KC would jump on that.

After only one big league season, you are sure he cannot improve? IMO you could be wrong.

mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 11:14 am Yeah, the Woo trade would be a slam dunk.

BTV

Woo +71.7

Donovan +32.1
Romero +1
Walker +5.4

That says it all. Dumb proposal and would get the M’s GM fired immediately.