Are the Blues players trying to get Monty fired?

[somni]

Monty isn't going anywhere.
Armstrong isn't going anywhere.

If anything, a bigger named player may be on their way out.

One player is responsible for this? You really believe this. OK

I didn't say that did I?

[BalotelliMassive]

The rumor from section 309 is that Bolduc was the most popular guy in the locker room because his dad has a wicked collection of nudie mags that he shared whenever they won a game - now that he's gone they don't have access to such rewards and morale has dropped significantly.

[Bacchk29]

Monty isn't going anywhere.
Armstrong isn't going anywhere.

If anything, a bigger named player may be on their way out.

One player is responsible for this? You really believe this. OK

I didn't say that did I?

Ok let me rephrase. So if you don’t think that why do think one player will be traded? And what difference would that make?

[somni]

Monty isn't going anywhere.
Armstrong isn't going anywhere.

If anything, a bigger named player may be on their way out.

One player is responsible for this? You really believe this. OK

I didn't say that did I?

Ok let me rephrase. So if you don’t think that why do think one player will be traded? And what difference would that make?

Shake up the team. Change its identity.

Monty has a 5-year deal.
Armstrong is part of the long-term transition and is lockstep with the owners.
Those two are not going anywhere.

If the team doesn't get better, I would expect a bigger type trade. But really, they are still in transition. There are some good prospects that will be coming in the next year or two. That's the real transition mark.

[Bacchk29]

Monty isn't going anywhere.
Armstrong isn't going anywhere.

If anything, a bigger named player may be on their way out.

One player is responsible for this? You really believe this. OK

I didn't say that did I?

Ok let me rephrase. So if you don’t think that why do think one player will be traded? And what difference would that make?

Shake up the team. Change its identity.

Monty has a 5-year deal.
Armstrong is part of the long-term transition and is lockstep with the owners.
Those two are not going anywhere.

If the team doesn't get better, I would expect a bigger type trade. But really, they are still in transition. There are some good prospects that will be coming in the next year or two. That's the real transition mark.

That’s fair. I think it’s a systemic issue with the roster in general. But unfortunately Army is bunkered in. Multiple players be moved would have more of a impact.

[MandatoryDenial]

If you compare this roster to 2019, the difference is like night and day. However, the only roster change made recently was Bolduc, and it’s hard to see how that alone could disrupt the team.

As for leadership, Monty’s position appears secure for now. If anyone’s seat might be warming up, it could be Armstrong’s. Stillman can’t afford to take chances — with the league getting stronger every year, missing the playoffs isn’t an option.

Well there was Suter as well who played very well on Defense and its a head scratcher to me why we didn't try to bring him back. There was also Faksa who played very well.

[juan good eye]

If you compare this roster to 2019, the difference is like night and day. However, the only roster change made recently was Bolduc, and it’s hard to see how that alone could disrupt the team.

As for leadership, Monty’s position appears secure for now. If anyone’s seat might be warming up, it could be Armstrong’s. Stillman can’t afford to take chances — with the league getting stronger every year, missing the playoffs isn’t an option.

Statistically, it is highly highly likely they are missing the playoffs

I will give them until the mandatory Thanksgiving date and make a determination then but it sure looks like it. Even better will be a late run after the Olympics to go from a top 5 pick to picking 12-15.

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[Sudsy 11]

If you compare this roster to 2019, the difference is like night and day. However, the only roster change made recently was Bolduc, and it’s hard to see how that alone could disrupt the team.

As for leadership, Monty’s position appears secure for now. If anyone’s seat might be warming up, it could be Armstrong’s. Stillman can’t afford to take chances — with the league getting stronger every year, missing the playoffs isn’t an option.

Well there was Suter as well who played very well on Defense and its a head scratcher to me why we didn't try to bring him back. There was also Faksa who played very well.

Army said he was negotiating with Faksa's agent when free agnecy started and it quickly became evident that Faksa wanted to go back to Dallas.

[bluetunehead]

If you compare this roster to 2019, the difference is like night and day. However, the only roster change made recently was Bolduc, and it’s hard to see how that alone could disrupt the team.

As for leadership, Monty’s position appears secure for now. If anyone’s seat might be warming up, it could be Armstrong’s. Stillman can’t afford to take chances — with the league getting stronger every year, missing the playoffs isn’t an option.

Well there was Suter as well who played very well on Defense and its a head scratcher to me why we didn't try to bring him back. There was also Faksa who played very well.

I am surprised they didn’t bring back Suter. I guess they were sold on Tucker and Kessel but it’s very unlike Army to not have a veteran for the bottom 3.

Faksa had his heart set on going back to Dallas.

Those two were good but I have a hard time thinking they would have the Blues turned around.

[AtillaTheBlue1]

there are players on this team, who have done this same thing to another coach

and this franchise has had history of players getting coaches fired for being too hard on them, or players committed a coup to get one fired.

[britishblue]

They need a solid 3rd pairing dman.

Do that, then see if we are still having issues.

[Bacchk29]

there are players on this team, who have done this same thing to another coach

and this franchise has had history of players getting coaches fired for being too hard on them, or players committed a coup to get one fired.

I would think Monty gets to pick his coaches behind the bench. Three coaches same message. Looks like an organizational philosophy that’s outdated rather than one or two players being the issue. I could see Ott Julian Alexander or even all three gone

[smilinjoefission]

Monty isn't going anywhere.
Armstrong isn't going anywhere.

If anything, a bigger named player may be on their way out.

One player is responsible for this? You really believe this. OK

I didn't say that did I?

Ok let me rephrase. So if you don’t think that why do think one player will be traded? And what difference would that make?

Shake up the team. Change its identity.

Monty has a 5-year deal.
Armstrong is part of the long-term transition and is lockstep with the owners.
Those two are not going anywhere.

If the team doesn't get better, I would expect a bigger type trade. But really, they are still in transition. There are some good prospects that will be coming in the next year or two. That's the real transition mark.

We see how well the Cards have played holding on to a legacy GM.

[Old_Goat]

First, Ryan Suter: He was getting paid by THREE different teams to play last year. If he had quit or retired before end of year, then those contracts expire and that income goes to zero. His family did not live here, it made no sense for them to pull kids out of school and move here for what would be just a couple of years at most. He stated during the season last year that he really doesn't like missing so much of his kids youth experiences and milestones, but even though his heart was somewhere else, he still played well and made a positive contribution here and to his teammates. He reached a significant goal of 1,500 NHL games. I realize a lot of people do not think Armstrong is any good. But it is a waste of time and energy to blame Doug Armstrong for Ryan Suter deciding for himself to retire. Nobody on this string knows exactly what was discussed between those two individuals. But I'll make an educated guess that Ryan Suter, with his family's wholehearted support thanked the Blues and informed them he was retiring. He had enough spotlight on him for the 1,500th game. He did not want to distract the great season-ending run and playoff excitement with a big farewell tour.

Second, Montgomery: I would say that if he did not have Dvorsky nor Snuggerud as regulars in scoring lines in the lineup, let alone on the first power play unit, then he would be under the microscope for firing. (And they are worthy being in those positions.) He is an excellent Coach. He fairly communicates with the players and the media.

If anything, a hard look needs to be taken at the Assistant Coaches.

[TheJackBurton]

First, Ryan Suter: He was getting paid by THREE different teams to play last year. If he had quit or retired before end of year, then those contracts expire and that income goes to zero. His family did not live here, it made no sense for them to pull kids out of school and move here for what would be just a couple of years at most. He stated during the season last year that he really doesn't like missing so much of his kids youth experiences and milestones, but even though his heart was somewhere else, he still played well and made a positive contribution here and to his teammates. He reached a significant goal of 1,500 NHL games. I realize a lot of people do not think Armstrong is any good. But it is a waste of time and energy to blame Doug Armstrong for Ryan Suter deciding for himself to retire. Nobody on this string knows exactly what was discussed between those two individuals. But I'll make an educated guess that Ryan Suter, with his family's wholehearted support thanked the Blues and informed them he was retiring. He had enough spotlight on him for the 1,500th game. He did not want to distract the great season-ending run and playoff excitement with a big farewell tour.

Second, Montgomery: I would say that if he did not have Dvorsky nor Snuggerud as regulars in scoring lines in the lineup, let alone on the first power play unit, then he would be under the microscope for firing. (And they are worthy being in those positions.) He is an excellent Coach. He fairly communicates with the players and the media.

If anything, a hard look needs to be taken at the Assistant Coaches.

Suter did state during the season that he was absolutely enjoying his time here and if he was signed to an extension would be moving his family here and would retire here.

[Red7]

The type of Ron Caron shakeup just isn’t possible right now. Monty signed a 5 year deal of which over 3 1/2 years remain. Any piece worth moving right now in a shake up has a NTC, either complete or tightly limited. Though unlikely, and I doubt it would help much, there is one major move that COULD happen: Armstrong resigns and Steen takes over now.

On Ryan Suter: when the Blues benched him late last year in favor of Tucker, Suter did not take it well. He was pretty much done with the idea of coming back after that.