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that doesn't stop ShadyNYCardsFan wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:37 amYou’ve already done this thread topic. Numerous times.
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My prediction there will several more82birds wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 12:11 pmthat doesn't stop ShadyNYCardsFan wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:37 amYou’ve already done this thread topic. Numerous times.
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It will be Saggese all off season…Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 12:13 pmMy prediction there will several more82birds wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 12:11 pmthat doesn't stop ShadyNYCardsFan wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:37 amYou’ve already done this thread topic. Numerous times.
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lolecleme22 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 12:43 pmIt will be Saggese all off season…Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 12:13 pmMy prediction there will several more82birds wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 12:11 pmthat doesn't stop ShadyNYCardsFan wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:37 amYou’ve already done this thread topic. Numerous times.
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Cut to Opening day, Saggese starts, goes 0-5…
Shady: “it looks like Saggese isn’t a long term solution.”
Wasn't 2025 supposed to be for that?rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 11:39 amThat's what they're going to use 2026 for, to see if players like N. Gorman are going to pan out or is it time to cut the cord and move on.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:55 amThey are serious about wanting to tank if they have Gorman playing at third everyday. Bad defense can’t hit low on base low ops just an awful player. He’s worse than a JAG he’s a just another awful playerrockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:35 am No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.
JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.
Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?
If he's here, then he's a utility player (replacing B. Donovan if he's dealt).
He also could be a throw in on any bigger deal C. Bloom could make.
Either way, he's NOT a starter at any position.
JMO
New regime coming in and we know BDWJr isn't going to spend any real money in 2026.Shady wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 13:43 pmWasn't 2025 supposed to be for that?rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 11:39 amThat's what they're going to use 2026 for, to see if players like N. Gorman are going to pan out or is it time to cut the cord and move on.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:55 amThey are serious about wanting to tank if they have Gorman playing at third everyday. Bad defense can’t hit low on base low ops just an awful player. He’s worse than a JAG he’s a just another awful playerrockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:35 am No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.
JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.
Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?
If he's here, then he's a utility player (replacing B. Donovan if he's dealt).
He also could be a throw in on any bigger deal C. Bloom could make.
Either way, he's NOT a starter at any position.
JMO
If Saggese is "JAG" while hitting .260, then please get us about 2 or 3 like him. The Cards have too many starters hitting .220-ish.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:35 am No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.
JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.
Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?
JMO
Saggese is underrated, at this time by some, because he hasn't delivered much power as yet. It will come.RamFan08NY wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 14:05 pmIf Saggese is "JAG" while hitting .260, then please get us about 2 or 3 like him. The Cards have too many starters hitting .220-ish.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:35 am No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.
JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.
Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?
JMO
You dont think they'd be better off with a few "JAGs" hitting 40 pts higher?
Yea saggase may be JAG but Gorman is just another awful failed player. If they go with him not only are they not caring if they win but intentionally trying to lose and would be a good indicator bloom might be an idiotrockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 13:53 pmNew regime coming in and we know BDWJr isn't going to spend any real money in 2026.Shady wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 13:43 pmWasn't 2025 supposed to be for that?rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 11:39 amThat's what they're going to use 2026 for, to see if players like N. Gorman are going to pan out or is it time to cut the cord and move on.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:55 amThey are serious about wanting to tank if they have Gorman playing at third everyday. Bad defense can’t hit low on base low ops just an awful player. He’s worse than a JAG he’s a just another awful playerrockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:35 am No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.
JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.
Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?
If he's here, then he's a utility player (replacing B. Donovan if he's dealt).
He also could be a throw in on any bigger deal C. Bloom could make.
Either way, he's NOT a starter at any position.
JMO
Gorman isn't my choice (Saggesse absolutely isn't, J.A.G. w/no power) but if NADO and Donovan are traded (likely), then Gorman is going to be the first player to be given a shot at 3rd base given his power upside.
Or, maybe it's because he was an average-to-below-average fielder who was 19% worse than league average offensively (even with a relatively fortuitous .359 BABIP).Shady wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 14:08 pmSaggese is underrated, at this time, by some because he hasn't delivered much power. It will come.RamFan08NY wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 14:05 pmIf Saggese is "JAG" while hitting .260, then please get us about 2 or 3 like him. The Cards have too many starters hitting .220-ish.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:35 am No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.
JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.
Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?
JMO
You dont think they'd be better off with a few "JAGs" hitting 40 pts higher?
If NADO and Donovan are traded, Gorman is going to be the guy who's given the first shot at 3rd base.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 14:08 pmYea saggase may be JAG but Gorman is just another awful failed player. If they go with him not only are they not caring if they win but intentionally trying to lose and would be a good indicator bloom might be an idiotrockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 13:53 pmNew regime coming in and we know BDWJr isn't going to spend any real money in 2026.Shady wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 13:43 pmWasn't 2025 supposed to be for that?rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 11:39 amThat's what they're going to use 2026 for, to see if players like N. Gorman are going to pan out or is it time to cut the cord and move on.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:55 amThey are serious about wanting to tank if they have Gorman playing at third everyday. Bad defense can’t hit low on base low ops just an awful player. He’s worse than a JAG he’s a just another awful playerrockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:35 am No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.
JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.
Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?
If he's here, then he's a utility player (replacing B. Donovan if he's dealt).
He also could be a throw in on any bigger deal C. Bloom could make.
Either way, he's NOT a starter at any position.
JMO
Gorman isn't my choice (Saggesse absolutely isn't, J.A.G. w/no power) but if NADO and Donovan are traded (likely), then Gorman is going to be the first player to be given a shot at 3rd base given his power upside.
That seems reasonable. It seems most are assuming Wetherholt has one starting infield job. That includes me. I hope we are right on as far as him being ready for it.mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 14:13 pm Plan to platoon Gorman and Saggese at 3B.
If one starts off particularly well and the other poorly, let the one playing well start to eat into the playing time of the other.
Oh H E L L NO RF!RamFan08NY wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 14:05 pmIf Saggese is "JAG" while hitting .260, then please get us about 2 or 3 like him. The Cards have too many starters hitting .220-ish.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:35 am No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.
JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.
Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?
JMO
You dont think they'd be better off with a few "JAGs" hitting 40 pts higher?
Gorman had 100 more ABs than Saggese. Both had same number of doubles. Gorman had 12 more HRs. Saggese hit over 50 points higher in BA. Give me the "JAG" who puts the ball in play and can hit doubles.
To put it in perspective. Donovan hit a double in 6% of his ABs. Saggese hit a double in 5% of his ABs. You are under estimating Saggese's potential if played every day.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 14:45 pmOh H E L L NO RF!RamFan08NY wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 14:05 pmIf Saggese is "JAG" while hitting .260, then please get us about 2 or 3 like him. The Cards have too many starters hitting .220-ish.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:35 am No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.
JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.
Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?
JMO
You dont think they'd be better off with a few "JAGs" hitting 40 pts higher?
Gorman had 100 more ABs than Saggese. Both had same number of doubles. Gorman had 12 more HRs. Saggese hit over 50 points higher in BA. Give me the "JAG" who puts the ball in play and can hit doubles.
To put it in perspective. Donovan hit a double in 6% of his ABs. Saggese hit a double in 5% of his ABs. You are under estimating Saggese's potential if played every day.
A BA of .258 is "meh" when you toss in the rest of his slash .299 .342 .641 he's a HORRIBLE hitter!
And you want "2 or 3 like him"?
BA isn't the right stat to judge a hitter by anymore.
I don't want either at 3rd base.
But given we have to have one, it's Gorman by a mile over the weak hitting Saggese.
Again, what is the fascination of some of our fans w/a Saggese who's J.A.G.
We’re still waiting for him to blossom into “the next Tony Gwynn /Joey Votto.” And for Gorman to turn into “the next Eddie Mathews.” “LOL”Shady wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 14:52 pmrockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 14:45 pmOh H E L L NO RF!RamFan08NY wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 14:05 pmIf Saggese is "JAG" while hitting .260, then please get us about 2 or 3 like him. The Cards have too many starters hitting .220-ish.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Oct 2025 10:35 am No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.
JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.
Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?
JMO
You dont think they'd be better off with a few "JAGs" hitting 40 pts higher?
Gorman had 100 more ABs than Saggese. Both had same number of doubles. Gorman had 12 more HRs. Saggese hit over 50 points higher in BA. Give me the "JAG" who puts the ball in play and can hit doubles.
To put it in perspective. Donovan hit a double in 6% of his ABs. Saggese hit a double in 5% of his ABs. You are under estimating Saggese's potential if played every day.
A BA of .258 is "meh" when you toss in the rest of his slash .299 .342 .641 he's a HORRIBLE hitter!
And you want "2 or 3 like him"?
BA isn't the right stat to judge a hitter by anymore.
I don't want either at 3rd base.
But given we have to have one, it's Gorman by a mile over the weak hitting Saggese.
Again, what is the fascination of some of our fans w/a Saggese who's J.A.G.
"Again, what is the fascination of some of our fans w/a Saggese who's J.A.G". You were probably wondering the same about Burleson a couple years back. Maybe you still are.