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Re: Payrolls matter?????

Posted: 21 Oct 2025 13:47 pm
by Jatalk
Red Bird Classic wrote: 21 Oct 2025 12:57 pm
Jatalk wrote: 21 Oct 2025 12:33 pm
Red Bird Classic wrote: 21 Oct 2025 11:22 am
Jatalk wrote: 21 Oct 2025 11:10 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 21 Oct 2025 09:13 am
Jatalk wrote: 21 Oct 2025 06:19 am Salary cap and floor are a must.
Revenue sharing must come first. Then a cap and floor.
Yes and I’m ignorant on the issue. They don’t have revenue share like other leagues?
No. The Yankees have 2.4 times the revenue of the Marlins for example.
Don’t mean to harp on this but it’s interesting. As you probably know and I did not, there is revenue sharing but with two big loopholes. When the Dodgers were facing bankruptcy several years ago, MLB capped the revenue that goes to revenue sharing from their TV deal. They have benefited greatly from this. Also if the team is part owner of their TV deal, revenue from that ownership % does not count for revenue sharing. Yankees have benefited from this greatly.

It should be noted regarding the need for a floor that many of the teams with large payrolls are spending a larger % of their revenue on payroll. Mets, Yankees, Toronto, Phillies are all at 70%+. Miami less than 30%. This is based on 2025 payrolls compared to 2024 revenues.

I got all this from several sources so I hope it’s reliable. I’ll shut up now.
Let's say I'm the Yankees. My cost for other operations (Not including payroll) is $200 million. Since my total revenue is 705 million. I can still spend $490 on payroll (including luxury tax) and make a profit.

If, on the other hand, I'm the Marlins: My operations cost (not including payroll) is say $190-million. Since my total revenue is only 295 million, I can't spend more than 100-million on payroll (34%) and make even a small profit.

When you consider that the Marlins aren't going to win much even if they spend $150-million, it's easy to see why they decide to spend less and pocket the profit.

In a league where some teams have 2 -3 times more revenue than other teams, it's impossible to have a reasonable level of competitive balance. Even teams like the Cardinals, who are in the middle in revenue, can't hope to compete on even terms with big markets like LA and NY.

You're right that revenue sharing will be a difficult lift. There are many complications like teams having cross ownership with their broadcasters, but it has to be done or baseball will become and battle of the Dodgers and Yankees, et.al. with everyone else just serving as punching bags.
I’m with you and I understand there is an operating cost “nut” that revenue has to cover. I’m for balancing out the revenue sharing. However there are markets such as Miami that I really question as far as support for a major league team. Also there are teams like the Pirates where ownership pockets a large amount of profit. Solution is fix revenue sharing, cap and floor. If the market or owner won’t support a competitive team, move the team.

Re: Payrolls matter?????

Posted: 21 Oct 2025 17:02 pm
by cardsrmyteam
earp wrote: 21 Oct 2025 07:27 am 2025-26 MLB Free Agents
Funny
No worry in STL- we are in a rebuild
Get those season tickets!!!!!!!!!
Yep, they are calling at least twice a week to lure the season ticket holders back. It's funny to talk to them, I guess someone in the front office assumed that we would come back just because Mo is gone. It's pretty comical to hear the drivel and no committments to do anything.