Payrolls matter?????

[Whatashame]

The end of the baseball season is near and what’s left. Two top 5 payrolls. The number one payroll in baseball (number one payroll in the national league) and the number five payroll in baseball (number two payroll in the american league). As much as I hate the Dodgers, I hope they roll in the World Series. Maybe baseball will take a serious look at changing the way it operates.

[Poojols]

What's even more messed up is that the Dodgers will land another 2 or 3 top FA this offseason, and every offseason, until this issue is addressed.

[Jatalk]

Salary cap and floor are a must.

[earp]

2025-26 MLB Free Agents
Funny
No worry in STL- we are in a rebuild
Get those season tickets!!!!!!!!!

[sikeston bulldog2]

Dinner with relatives from Chicago last night. They too, by name said Tucker goes to LA. It ain’t just us.

[Midrange Jay]

2025-26 MLB Free Agents
Funny
No worry in STL- we are in a rebuild
Get those season tickets!!!!!!!!!

We have to see what we have. Player development and an eye for the future. New beer price is $15.

[earp]

New beer price is $15.

If beer prices at MLB stadiums are hitting $15, that's quite a jump — and fans are definitely feeling it. For context, the average beer price across MLB stadiums in recent years has hovered around $9–$11 for a 16 oz pour, depending on the team and venue. A $15 price tag likely puts that stadium among the most expensive in the league.

Highest Beer Prices in MLB (2025)
Washington Nationals (Nationals Park): $15.40 — the most expensive in the league

Baltimore Orioles (Camden Yards): $11.29

Chicago White Sox (Guaranteed Rate Field): $11.00

Average Beer Price
The league-wide average for a beer is approximately $9.18 for a 16 oz domestic draft

[rockondlouie]

Payroll 100% matters if the goal is to win a WS.

No team can draft & develop a WS winner in this day and age.

Hopefully C. Bloom can d & d at least three above average major league players (JJW could be the first) and a couple at or near TOTR SP's (Doyle could be the first).

Then fill in w/some smart trades.

Beginning in 2027 and after the new CBA is ratified, BDWJr then has to up the payroll back to $180+M.

And as attendance increases, he'll need to go over $200M if he wants to ever see flag #12 flying over Busch Stadium.

[Red Bird Classic]

Salary cap and floor are a must.

Revenue sharing must come first. Then a cap and floor.

[ramfandan]

New beer price is $15.

If beer prices at MLB stadiums are hitting $15, that's quite a jump — and fans are definitely feeling it. For context, the average beer price across MLB stadiums in recent years has hovered around $9–$11 for a 16 oz pour, depending on the team and venue. A $15 price tag likely puts that stadium among the most expensive in the league.

Highest Beer Prices in MLB (2025)
Washington Nationals (Nationals Park): $15.40 — the most expensive in the league

Baltimore Orioles (Camden Yards): $11.29

Chicago White Sox (Guaranteed Rate Field): $11.00

Average Beer Price
The league-wide average for a beer is approximately $9.18 for a 16 oz domestic draft

Remember back in 70’s in Wis. my buddy comes back to seat with 2 large beers. He said, I can’t believe it. Guy ahead of me ordered two this size. Told the gal, give me two like that.
I had $5 bill in my hand. Handed it to her and she said, ‘that’ll be $5.50 sir ! He told us .. (bleep), you can’t get two beers with a $5 bill. Holy (bleep) !

We still chuckle today when we reminisce that story. Lol

$2.75 per beer was outrageous back then.

[moose-and-squirrel]

2025-26 MLB Free Agents
Funny
No worry in STL- we are in a rebuild
Get those season tickets!!!!!!!!!

We have to see what we have. Player development and an eye for the future. New beer price is $15.

whats an old beer cost?

[Talkin' Baseball]

What's even more messed up is that the Dodgers will land another 2 or 3 top FA this offseason, and every offseason, until this issue is addressed.

In addition to adding talent from the very top tier through free agency each year, something else is set in motion. The Dodgers have a definite need for a quality left fielder. It was a black hole for them this season. If they sign Kyle Tucker for $400-500M, yes they get the very best free agent option available, but you know what else they get? They get to keep all of their top prospects. What would their operation look like if they had to part with prospects to get the quality of a Tucker, a Yamamoto, a Sasaki, and so on? They get these folks and they get to keep their Pages, Freeland, Hope, Rushing...

[Jatalk]

Salary cap and floor are a must.

Revenue sharing must come first. Then a cap and floor.

Yes and I’m ignorant on the issue. They don’t have revenue share like other leagues?

[Red Bird Classic]

Salary cap and floor are a must.

Revenue sharing must come first. Then a cap and floor.

Yes and I’m ignorant on the issue. They don’t have revenue share like other leagues?

No. The Yankees have 2.4 times the revenue of the Marlins for example.

[Jatalk]

Salary cap and floor are a must.

Revenue sharing must come first. Then a cap and floor.

Yes and I’m ignorant on the issue. They don’t have revenue share like other leagues?

No. The Yankees have 2.4 times the revenue of the Marlins for example.

Don’t mean to harp on this but it’s interesting. As you probably know and I did not, there is revenue sharing but with two big loopholes. When the Dodgers were facing bankruptcy several years ago, MLB capped the revenue that goes to revenue sharing from their TV deal. They have benefited greatly from this. Also if the team is part owner of their TV deal, revenue from that ownership % does not count for revenue sharing. Yankees have benefited from this greatly.

It should be noted regarding the need for a floor that many of the teams with large payrolls are spending a larger % of their revenue on payroll. Mets, Yankees, Toronto, Phillies are all at 70%+. Miami less than 30%. This is based on 2025 payrolls compared to 2024 revenues.

I got all this from several sources so I hope it’s reliable. I’ll shut up now.

[Red Bird Classic]

Salary cap and floor are a must.

Revenue sharing must come first. Then a cap and floor.

Yes and I’m ignorant on the issue. They don’t have revenue share like other leagues?

No. The Yankees have 2.4 times the revenue of the Marlins for example.

Don’t mean to harp on this but it’s interesting. As you probably know and I did not, there is revenue sharing but with two big loopholes. When the Dodgers were facing bankruptcy several years ago, MLB capped the revenue that goes to revenue sharing from their TV deal. They have benefited greatly from this. Also if the team is part owner of their TV deal, revenue from that ownership % does not count for revenue sharing. Yankees have benefited from this greatly.

It should be noted regarding the need for a floor that many of the teams with large payrolls are spending a larger % of their revenue on payroll. Mets, Yankees, Toronto, Phillies are all at 70%+. Miami less than 30%. This is based on 2025 payrolls compared to 2024 revenues.

I got all this from several sources so I hope it’s reliable. I’ll shut up now.

Let's say I'm the Yankees. My cost for other operations (Not including payroll) is $200 million. Since my total revenue is 705 million. I can still spend $490 on payroll (including luxury tax) and make a profit.

If, on the other hand, I'm the Marlins: My operations cost (not including payroll) is say $190-million. Since my total revenue is only 295 million, I can't spend more than 100-million on payroll (34%) and make even a small profit.

When you consider that the Marlins aren't going to win much even if they spend $150-million, it's easy to see why they decide to spend less and pocket the profit.

In a league where some teams have 2 -3 times more revenue than other teams, it's impossible to have a reasonable level of competitive balance. Even teams like the Cardinals, who are in the middle in revenue, can't hope to compete on even terms with big markets like LA and NY.

You're right that revenue sharing will be a difficult lift. There are many complications like teams having cross ownership with their broadcasters, but it has to be done or baseball will become and battle of the Dodgers and Yankees, et.al. with everyone else just serving as punching bags.