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Re: The Substantial Difference in Owners

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Hazelwood72 wrote: 11 Oct 2025 13:43 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 11 Oct 2025 13:32 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 11 Oct 2025 11:52 am
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 20:29 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:35 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 14:39 pm That's cool. In 2009 the last home game was "Fan Appreciation Night" (and the night we clinched a playoff spot that year GREAT game). I got greeted at the gate by Al MacInnis in a tux.
Those Scottish heritage guys look great in a tux.

“Bond. James Bond.”

Ironic that the best Bond, Sean Connery, was a Scot, not an Englishman as author Ian Fleming created.
See, we're going to have another disagreement. Daniel Craig is the best Bond. People go on about him being too dark. James Bond has a mass murderer's body count. Of COURSE he's going to be dark. He's not a sociopath.

My daughter and her boyfriend recently ripped EVERY Bond movie and put them on a memory card for me so I'm going back to watch all of them in order. I will leave this open, because I like certain performances better than others. Before Casino Royale my favorite Bond movie was Goldeneye. IT's still up there. The Roger Moore movies got too campy.
Oh, don’t get me wrong. I liked Daniel Craig, too, and for the very reasons you cited.

I read an article once that said Timothy Dalton was closest to what author Ian Fleming visualized as Bond. As Fleming wrote, Bond was a typical dour, all business, rather characterless MI6 killer and not as elegant, handsome, or smooth as Connery, Moore, and Brosnan were in the movie versions. But yeah, I’m biased toward Connery mainly since he’s what I saw first and I liked his droll humo(u)r. One of my first dates was taking a girlfriend to Diamonds are Forever. Jill St. John played a perfect airhead in that one.
I'll be honest, I haven't seen a Connery bond movie in like 30 years. The kids these days are fed up with the cost of streaming services, and the fact that you don't really "own" something when you "buy" it on Amazon. They've gone back to my youth and media piracy. AAARRRRGGGHHHH! I remember me yout!!

Now I have all the Bond movies so I'm going back and watching them in order.
Enjoy! My wife and I did that 4 or 5 years ago. She bought me the complete set on BluRay as a Christmas gift and we watched them in order. Of course, I had to make a cheesy joke about wanting Ursula to Undress and my wife gave me the Gordie Howe elbow.

Our set was prior to “No Time to Die”, however, and I haven’t even seen it yet, so I gotta go do that.
Highly recommended. It's not Skyfall, but close. Skyfall is my absolute favorite.
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No Pierce Brosnan fans eh?
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no one will ever claim tom as a bad owner, but if the league continues to grow, financially, he needs a billionaire, who wants to lose money to buy a piece of this club.


the other so called owners, backed his bid, do not write checks, and are an owner in name only.


stillman is a millionaire, not 100's of millions, etc. so for him, and a high cap, can be a crunch. Nice to have some one willing to just p iss cash away, to help tom with the bills, to be able to stay with the big boys. which is why drafting players and getting players to over achieve is a must.


cardinals have a billionaire, who wants to compete, not win anything. he's already won, and at 90 years of age, what else does he need from team? His son is a moron, who tries to milk the fans of their cash, with 3rd jerseys, road caps, 1937 home jerseys, etc.
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skeezix wrote: 10 Oct 2025 12:55 pm Last night, Tom Stillman was personally greeting fans as they entered the Enterprise Center.
I seriously doubt that either of the DeWitt's would stoop so low as to greet their patrons. Like the French monarchs at the beginning of their Revolution - "Let them eat cake!"
Got to meet him once in New Haven, CT at a Blues practice. It was a brief meeting but he was incredibly kind to me and my kids.
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Tony Palazzolo wrote: 11 Oct 2025 06:04 am
Hazelwood72 wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:33 pm Yes. For the few missteps that the Tom Stillman ownership committed (not renewing John Kelly ranks near the top), Mr. Stillman has done a great job and deserves accolades.

And yes, a total breath of fresh air compared to DeWallet, Jr, DeWallet III, and Mozo the Clown.
You have to give the Dewitts their due. They ran a competitive club that was in the playoffs year after year. It won 2 World Series and took the team to 4. The Cardinals had the highest or 2nd highest attendance nearly every year. The last few years have not been good, but man what a 20 year run or an owner group. You have to have respect for Stillman and what they have done. I hope they can come close to run that the DeWitts had.
Hiya Tony,
I’ll agree with you for the first 2/3rds of DeWitt’s ownership. Unfortunately, for the last 10 years, he’s been mailing it in and allowing Mozo the Clown to destroy what he had.

So yeah, from 1995 to 2015, the Cardinals did well. That’s 20 really good years. But you could see cracks in the foundation even as early as 2014. The last 10 years have been really, really bad, and have continually gone downhill.

We got a brief reprieve in 2019 when Mike Shildt got the Cards back to playing solid baseball, but Mozo couldn’t stand a manager who pushed back on The Great & Powerful Mo, and fired Shildt.

Sorry for my rant. I’ve said the same stuff on Cards Talk. I really need to let it go and hope Bloom can turn it around.

Have a good one!
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STL fan in MN wrote: 11 Oct 2025 13:50 pm No Pierce Brosnan fans eh?
He was brilliant in Goldeneye. I didn't like the others as much because they got to Roger Moore level of campy gadgetry. I LOVED Dame Judi Dench as M. Favorite M, by far. She was soooooo good in Skyfall. So as of now, my list is,

Skyfall
Goldeneye
No Time To Die
Casino Royale
Goldfinger
The Rest of Daniel Craig
Dr. No
Live And Let Die
The rest of Pierce Brosnan
The Rest
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Hazelwood72 wrote: 11 Oct 2025 22:21 pm
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 11 Oct 2025 06:04 am
Hazelwood72 wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:33 pm Yes. For the few missteps that the Tom Stillman ownership committed (not renewing John Kelly ranks near the top), Mr. Stillman has done a great job and deserves accolades.

And yes, a total breath of fresh air compared to DeWallet, Jr, DeWallet III, and Mozo the Clown.
You have to give the Dewitts their due. They ran a competitive club that was in the playoffs year after year. It won 2 World Series and took the team to 4. The Cardinals had the highest or 2nd highest attendance nearly every year. The last few years have not been good, but man what a 20 year run or an owner group. You have to have respect for Stillman and what they have done. I hope they can come close to run that the DeWitts had.
Hiya Tony,
I’ll agree with you for the first 2/3rds of DeWitt’s ownership. Unfortunately, for the last 10 years, he’s been mailing it in and allowing Mozo the Clown to destroy what he had.

So yeah, from 1995 to 2015, the Cardinals did well. That’s 20 really good years. But you could see cracks in the foundation even as early as 2014. The last 10 years have been really, really bad, and have continually gone downhill.

We got a brief reprieve in 2019 when Mike Shildt got the Cards back to playing solid baseball, but Mozo couldn’t stand a manager who pushed back on The Great & Powerful Mo, and fired Shildt.

Sorry for my rant. I’ve said the same stuff on Cards Talk. I really need to let it go and hope Bloom can turn it around.

Have a good one!
Yeah well they bought the team in 96 and went on "nearly" a 20 year run. By any standards that is a seriously good run. I agree that they have not been good for awhile. It hasn't been a fun product to watch. I'll agree on Schildt, the guy made it fun again. He had them play a version of Whitey ball. I was stunned when they fired him.
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TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 20:29 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:35 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 14:39 pm That's cool. In 2009 the last home game was "Fan Appreciation Night" (and the night we clinched a playoff spot that year GREAT game). I got greeted at the gate by Al MacInnis in a tux.
Those Scottish heritage guys look great in a tux.

“Bond. James Bond.”

Ironic that the best Bond, Sean Connery, was a Scot, not an Englishman as author Ian Fleming created.
See, we're going to have another disagreement. Daniel Craig is the best Bond. People go on about him being too dark. James Bond has a mass murderer's body count. Of COURSE he's going to be dark. He's not a sociopath.

My daughter and her boyfriend recently ripped EVERY Bond movie and put them on a memory card for me so I'm going back to watch all of them in order. I will leave this open, because I like certain performances better than others. Before Casino Royale my favorite Bond movie was Goldeneye. IT's still up there. The Roger Moore movies got too campy.
I grew up on Connery and then Moore. Didn't care for Dalton at the time (though watching his two movies now, I have an appreciation for both him and his movies). Loved Brosnan, he was my favorite - probably influenced by his other work. But I agree about Craig. Casino Royale is my favorite Bond film easily. I do have quibbles with both Quantam and the ending of No Time To Die. That all said, to me his body of Bond work is the best.
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TAFKAP wrote: 12 Oct 2025 16:59 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 11 Oct 2025 13:50 pm No Pierce Brosnan fans eh?
He was brilliant in Goldeneye. I didn't like the others as much because they got to Roger Moore level of campy gadgetry. I LOVED Dame Judi Dench as M. Favorite M, by far. She was soooooo good in Skyfall. So as of now, my list is,
I loved Brosnan at the time, and still do. But he's right, the gadgetry just got so far out of hand.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 11 Oct 2025 13:50 pm No Pierce Brosnan fans eh?
I mean, Remington Steele. Also the remake of Thomas Crown was perfect for him
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STL fan in MN wrote: 11 Oct 2025 13:50 pm No Pierce Brosnan fans eh?
He was great IMO. Great actor in general. Perfectly cast in The Thomas Crown Affair.
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Now I understand what "highjacking a thread" is.
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skeezix wrote: 15 Oct 2025 15:36 pm Now I understand what "highjacking a thread" is.
My apologies. I’m guilty on this one!

But you gotta admit, it spurred a lot of James Bond interest.

#LGB !
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TAFKAP wrote: 12 Oct 2025 16:59 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 11 Oct 2025 13:50 pm No Pierce Brosnan fans eh?
He was brilliant in Goldeneye. I didn't like the others as much because they got to Roger Moore level of campy gadgetry. I LOVED Dame Judi Dench as M. Favorite M, by far. She was soooooo good in Skyfall. So as of now, my list is,

Skyfall
Goldeneye
No Time To Die
Casino Royale
Goldfinger
The Rest of Daniel Craig
Dr. No
Live And Let Die
The rest of Pierce Brosnan
The Rest

Roger Moore was not the best Bond, but you're selling him short. Some of those movies were pretty great growing up in the 70's. Also, the one with George Lazenby was quite good also. While I enjoyed Daniel Craig's version, Connery will always get the nod for the best Bond from me. Dalton and Brosnan put out some pretty boring Bond films.
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