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The Substantial Difference in Owners

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Last night, Tom Stillman was personally greeting fans as they entered the Enterprise Center.
I seriously doubt that either of the DeWitt's would stoop so low as to greet their patrons. Like the French monarchs at the beginning of their Revolution - "Let them eat cake!"
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That's cool. In 2009 the last home game was "Fan Appreciation Night" (and the night we clinched a playoff spot that year GREAT game). I got greeted at the gate by Al MacInnis in a tux.
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Yes. For the few missteps that the Tom Stillman ownership committed (not renewing John Kelly ranks near the top), Mr. Stillman has done a great job and deserves accolades.

And yes, a total breath of fresh air compared to DeWallet, Jr, DeWallet III, and Mozo the Clown.
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TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 14:39 pm That's cool. In 2009 the last home game was "Fan Appreciation Night" (and the night we clinched a playoff spot that year GREAT game). I got greeted at the gate by Al MacInnis in a tux.
Those Scottish heritage guys look great in a tux.

“Bond. James Bond.”

Ironic that the best Bond, Sean Connery, was a Scot, not an Englishman as author Ian Fleming created.
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Hazelwood72 wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:35 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 14:39 pm That's cool. In 2009 the last home game was "Fan Appreciation Night" (and the night we clinched a playoff spot that year GREAT game). I got greeted at the gate by Al MacInnis in a tux.
Those Scottish heritage guys look great in a tux.

“Bond. James Bond.”

Ironic that the best Bond, Sean Connery, was a Scot, not an Englishman as author Ian Fleming created.
See, we're going to have another disagreement. Daniel Craig is the best Bond. People go on about him being too dark. James Bond has a mass murderer's body count. Of COURSE he's going to be dark. He's not a sociopath.

My daughter and her boyfriend recently ripped EVERY Bond movie and put them on a memory card for me so I'm going back to watch all of them in order. I will leave this open, because I like certain performances better than others. Before Casino Royale my favorite Bond movie was Goldeneye. IT's still up there. The Roger Moore movies got too campy.
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TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 20:29 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:35 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 14:39 pm That's cool. In 2009 the last home game was "Fan Appreciation Night" (and the night we clinched a playoff spot that year GREAT game). I got greeted at the gate by Al MacInnis in a tux.
Those Scottish heritage guys look great in a tux.

“Bond. James Bond.”

Ironic that the best Bond, Sean Connery, was a Scot, not an Englishman as author Ian Fleming created.
See, we're going to have another disagreement. Daniel Craig is the best Bond. People go on about him being too dark. James Bond has a mass murderer's body count. Of COURSE he's going to be dark. He's not a sociopath.

My daughter and her boyfriend recently ripped EVERY Bond movie and put them on a memory card for me so I'm going back to watch all of them in order. I will leave this open, because I like certain performances better than others. Before Casino Royale my favorite Bond movie was Goldeneye. IT's still up there. The Roger Moore movies got too campy.
The production and style of the movies are generationally different between the Sean Connery and Daniel Craig eras IMO. S.C. was the best for his era and D.C. in the newer. Personally I enjoy the sly humor of S.C.

Kind of like comparing leading talents in dif sports eras, the game has changed. Enjoy the ride and the Goat label doesnt matter imo.
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Inglewood Jack wrote: 10 Oct 2025 21:37 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 20:29 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:35 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 14:39 pm That's cool. In 2009 the last home game was "Fan Appreciation Night" (and the night we clinched a playoff spot that year GREAT game). I got greeted at the gate by Al MacInnis in a tux.
Those Scottish heritage guys look great in a tux.

“Bond. James Bond.”

Ironic that the best Bond, Sean Connery, was a Scot, not an Englishman as author Ian Fleming created.
See, we're going to have another disagreement. Daniel Craig is the best Bond. People go on about him being too dark. James Bond has a mass murderer's body count. Of COURSE he's going to be dark. He's not a sociopath.

My daughter and her boyfriend recently ripped EVERY Bond movie and put them on a memory card for me so I'm going back to watch all of them in order. I will leave this open, because I like certain performances better than others. Before Casino Royale my favorite Bond movie was Goldeneye. IT's still up there. The Roger Moore movies got too campy.
The production and style of the movies are generationally different between the Sean Connery and Daniel Craig eras IMO. S.C. was the best for his era and D.C. in the newer. Personally I enjoy the sly humor of S.C.

Kind of like comparing leading talents in dif sports eras, the game has changed. Enjoy the ride and the Goat label doesnt matter imo.
Have to agree with all of that post. Roger Moore sucked lemons.
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Inglewood Jack wrote: 10 Oct 2025 21:37 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 20:29 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:35 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 14:39 pm That's cool. In 2009 the last home game was "Fan Appreciation Night" (and the night we clinched a playoff spot that year GREAT game). I got greeted at the gate by Al MacInnis in a tux.
Those Scottish heritage guys look great in a tux.

“Bond. James Bond.”

Ironic that the best Bond, Sean Connery, was a Scot, not an Englishman as author Ian Fleming created.
See, we're going to have another disagreement. Daniel Craig is the best Bond. People go on about him being too dark. James Bond has a mass murderer's body count. Of COURSE he's going to be dark. He's not a sociopath.

My daughter and her boyfriend recently ripped EVERY Bond movie and put them on a memory card for me so I'm going back to watch all of them in order. I will leave this open, because I like certain performances better than others. Before Casino Royale my favorite Bond movie was Goldeneye. IT's still up there. The Roger Moore movies got too campy.
The production and style of the movies are generationally different between the Sean Connery and Daniel Craig eras IMO. S.C. was the best for his era and D.C. in the newer. Personally I enjoy the sly humor of S.C.

Kind of like comparing leading talents in dif sports eras, the game has changed. Enjoy the ride and the Goat label doesnt matter imo.
I'm here for that. That's why I'm going back and watching all of them especially since I haven't seen the SC movies in decades, or the Lazenby or Dalton movies at all.
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Hazelwood72 wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:33 pm Yes. For the few missteps that the Tom Stillman ownership committed (not renewing John Kelly ranks near the top), Mr. Stillman has done a great job and deserves accolades.

And yes, a total breath of fresh air compared to DeWallet, Jr, DeWallet III, and Mozo the Clown.
You have to give the Dewitts their due. They ran a competitive club that was in the playoffs year after year. It won 2 World Series and took the team to 4. The Cardinals had the highest or 2nd highest attendance nearly every year. The last few years have not been good, but man what a 20 year run or an owner group. You have to have respect for Stillman and what they have done. I hope they can come close to run that the DeWitts had.
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Hazelwood72 wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:33 pm Yes. For the few missteps that the Tom Stillman ownership committed (not renewing John Kelly ranks near the top), Mr. Stillman has done a great job and deserves accolades.

And yes, a total breath of fresh air compared to DeWallet, Jr, DeWallet III, and Mozo the Clown.
With a few exceptions Blues ownership has always been engaged with their fans.

Almost always better than the Cardinals and miles ahead of the Lambs and Deadbirds.
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skeezix wrote: 10 Oct 2025 12:55 pm Last night, Tom Stillman was personally greeting fans as they entered the Enterprise Center.
I seriously doubt that either of the DeWitt's would stoop so low as to greet their patrons. Like the French monarchs at the beginning of their Revolution - "Let them eat cake!"
Or, for the Cards, “Let them eat their tickets!”
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If we are talking baseball, my lady is bitter because she got sucked into last night's game. her agenda was watching Is It Cake? and staying up watching a movie. Mariners tied it when we were leaving the pho restaurant and we flipped it on at home to see the end. she disgustedly gave up after 14 innings, I called her out of bed for the 15th, she stood in the upper hallway watching :lol: :lol:

lotta happy locals
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seattleblue wrote: 11 Oct 2025 10:50 am If we are talking baseball, my lady is bitter because she got sucked into last night's game. her agenda was watching Is It Cake? and staying up watching a movie. Mariners tied it when we were leaving the pho restaurant and we flipped it on at home to see the end. she disgustedly gave up after 14 innings, I called her out of bed for the 15th, she stood in the upper hallway watching :lol: :lol:

lotta happy locals
That was an incredible game. I bet Mariner town is still partying.
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TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 20:29 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:35 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 14:39 pm That's cool. In 2009 the last home game was "Fan Appreciation Night" (and the night we clinched a playoff spot that year GREAT game). I got greeted at the gate by Al MacInnis in a tux.
Those Scottish heritage guys look great in a tux.

“Bond. James Bond.”

Ironic that the best Bond, Sean Connery, was a Scot, not an Englishman as author Ian Fleming created.
See, we're going to have another disagreement. Daniel Craig is the best Bond. People go on about him being too dark. James Bond has a mass murderer's body count. Of COURSE he's going to be dark. He's not a sociopath.

My daughter and her boyfriend recently ripped EVERY Bond movie and put them on a memory card for me so I'm going back to watch all of them in order. I will leave this open, because I like certain performances better than others. Before Casino Royale my favorite Bond movie was Goldeneye. IT's still up there. The Roger Moore movies got too campy.
Oh, don’t get me wrong. I liked Daniel Craig, too, and for the very reasons you cited.

I read an article once that said Timothy Dalton was closest to what author Ian Fleming visualized as Bond. As Fleming wrote, Bond was a typical dour, all business, rather characterless MI6 killer and not as elegant, handsome, or smooth as Connery, Moore, and Brosnan were in the movie versions. But yeah, I’m biased toward Connery mainly since he’s what I saw first and I liked his droll humo(u)r. One of my first dates was taking a girlfriend to Diamonds are Forever. Jill St. John played a perfect airhead in that one.
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Hazelwood72 wrote: 11 Oct 2025 11:52 am
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 20:29 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:35 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 14:39 pm That's cool. In 2009 the last home game was "Fan Appreciation Night" (and the night we clinched a playoff spot that year GREAT game). I got greeted at the gate by Al MacInnis in a tux.
Those Scottish heritage guys look great in a tux.

“Bond. James Bond.”

Ironic that the best Bond, Sean Connery, was a Scot, not an Englishman as author Ian Fleming created.
See, we're going to have another disagreement. Daniel Craig is the best Bond. People go on about him being too dark. James Bond has a mass murderer's body count. Of COURSE he's going to be dark. He's not a sociopath.

My daughter and her boyfriend recently ripped EVERY Bond movie and put them on a memory card for me so I'm going back to watch all of them in order. I will leave this open, because I like certain performances better than others. Before Casino Royale my favorite Bond movie was Goldeneye. IT's still up there. The Roger Moore movies got too campy.
Oh, don’t get me wrong. I liked Daniel Craig, too, and for the very reasons you cited.

I read an article once that said Timothy Dalton was closest to what author Ian Fleming visualized as Bond. As Fleming wrote, Bond was a typical dour, all business, rather characterless MI6 killer and not as elegant, handsome, or smooth as Connery, Moore, and Brosnan were in the movie versions. But yeah, I’m biased toward Connery mainly since he’s what I saw first and I liked his droll humo(u)r. One of my first dates was taking a girlfriend to Diamonds are Forever. Jill St. John played a perfect airhead in that one.
I'll be honest, I haven't seen a Connery bond movie in like 30 years. The kids these days are fed up with the cost of streaming services, and the fact that you don't really "own" something when you "buy" it on Amazon. They've gone back to my youth and media piracy. AAARRRRGGGHHHH! I remember me yout!!

Now I have all the Bond movies so I'm going back and watching them in order.
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TAFKAP wrote: 11 Oct 2025 13:32 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 11 Oct 2025 11:52 am
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 20:29 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 10 Oct 2025 19:35 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Oct 2025 14:39 pm That's cool. In 2009 the last home game was "Fan Appreciation Night" (and the night we clinched a playoff spot that year GREAT game). I got greeted at the gate by Al MacInnis in a tux.
Those Scottish heritage guys look great in a tux.

“Bond. James Bond.”

Ironic that the best Bond, Sean Connery, was a Scot, not an Englishman as author Ian Fleming created.
See, we're going to have another disagreement. Daniel Craig is the best Bond. People go on about him being too dark. James Bond has a mass murderer's body count. Of COURSE he's going to be dark. He's not a sociopath.

My daughter and her boyfriend recently ripped EVERY Bond movie and put them on a memory card for me so I'm going back to watch all of them in order. I will leave this open, because I like certain performances better than others. Before Casino Royale my favorite Bond movie was Goldeneye. IT's still up there. The Roger Moore movies got too campy.
Oh, don’t get me wrong. I liked Daniel Craig, too, and for the very reasons you cited.

I read an article once that said Timothy Dalton was closest to what author Ian Fleming visualized as Bond. As Fleming wrote, Bond was a typical dour, all business, rather characterless MI6 killer and not as elegant, handsome, or smooth as Connery, Moore, and Brosnan were in the movie versions. But yeah, I’m biased toward Connery mainly since he’s what I saw first and I liked his droll humo(u)r. One of my first dates was taking a girlfriend to Diamonds are Forever. Jill St. John played a perfect airhead in that one.
I'll be honest, I haven't seen a Connery bond movie in like 30 years. The kids these days are fed up with the cost of streaming services, and the fact that you don't really "own" something when you "buy" it on Amazon. They've gone back to my youth and media piracy. AAARRRRGGGHHHH! I remember me yout!!

Now I have all the Bond movies so I'm going back and watching them in order.
Enjoy! My wife and I did that 4 or 5 years ago. She bought me the complete set on BluRay as a Christmas gift and we watched them in order. Of course, I had to make a cheesy joke about wanting Ursula to Undress and my wife gave me the Gordie Howe elbow.

Our set was prior to “No Time to Die”, however, and I haven’t even seen it yet, so I gotta go do that.
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