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BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑28 Sep 2025 03:08 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 22:54 pm

Melville wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 22:49 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 20:15 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 18:16 pm They will likely miss the playoffs. And even if they did somehow reach them they would get the "worthless" 3rd wildcard spot that the Cards Talk fans would never want our own team to settle for.

Meanwhile 83 wins could mean the playoffs in the NL. Oh well.

Well…they were good most of the year.

If I’m Nolan, I’m thinking my presence could’ve put them over the top.

Probably not.
But his offensive (and offensive) numbers would doubtless have been better with 82 games played in Houston.

Correct. Minute Maid Park is a lovely park for home runs except for straightaway center field. Left field Crawford Boxes are a joke and right field power alley isn’t very far either. Any hitter will generally do better playing half his games there.

A dead-pull RH hitter like Nado would love 81 games aiming for the Crawford boxes. The retractable roof and A/C inside Minute Maid Park is a nice setting through the summer. Plus, the crowds are somewhat bigger in Houston than STL, and the owner seems committed to winning.

Remember when Lance Berkman was with the Astros and used to kill us in that stadium? When he hit lefthanded, he would use that inside-out swing and slice homers into that short left field porch. I forgave him, however, during our epic World Series Game 6! Fat Elvis the Big Puma was the epitome of a “Professional Hitter”.

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2025 09:09 am

BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑28 Sep 2025 03:08 am

Hazelwood72 wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 22:54 pm

Melville wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 22:49 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 20:15 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 18:16 pm They will likely miss the playoffs. And even if they did somehow reach them they would get the "worthless" 3rd wildcard spot that the Cards Talk fans would never want our own team to settle for.

Meanwhile 83 wins could mean the playoffs in the NL. Oh well.

Well…they were good most of the year.

If I’m Nolan, I’m thinking my presence could’ve put them over the top.

Probably not.
But his offensive (and offensive) numbers would doubtless have been better with 82 games played in Houston.

Correct. Minute Maid Park is a lovely park for home runs except for straightaway center field. Left field Crawford Boxes are a joke and right field power alley isn’t very far either. Any hitter will generally do better playing half his games there.

A dead-pull RH hitter like Nado would love 81 games aiming for the Crawford boxes. The retractable roof and A/C inside Minute Maid Park is a nice setting through the summer. Plus, the crowds are somewhat bigger in Houston than STL, and the owner seems committed to winning.

Remember when Lance Berkman was with the Astros and used to kill us in that stadium? When he hit lefthanded, he would use that inside-out swing and slice homers into that short left field porch. I forgave him, however, during our epic World Series Game 6! Fat Elvis the Big Puma was the epitome of a “Professional Hitter”.

Yep, fun times! HOU vs. STL was a great rivalry.

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 18:16 pm They will likely miss the playoffs. And even if they did somehow reach them they would get the "worthless" 3rd wildcard spot that the Cards Talk fans would never want our own team to settle for.

Meanwhile 83 wins could mean the playoffs in the NL. Oh well.

So you're saying that Arenado is not good enough that he would have had them in a better position for the playoffs? Well now you know why I don't want him

They had a lot of injuries to key players, but that is quite the collapse they just had. Cleveland changed everything by playing out of their minds for a month.

ForumPolice wrote: ↑28 Sep 2025 10:46 am

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 18:16 pm They will likely miss the playoffs. And even if they did somehow reach them they would get the "worthless" 3rd wildcard spot that the Cards Talk fans would never want our own team to settle for.

Meanwhile 83 wins could mean the playoffs in the NL. Oh well.

So you're saying that Arenado is not good enough that he would have had them in a better position for the playoffs? Well now you know why I don't want him

You are ignoring opportunity cost. The difference is Nado would probably displace Isaac Paredes in Houston's lineup. And that replacement doesn't make Houston enough better to win the division. If much at all. Parades is a 2.3 WAR player

In STL, he displaces Gorman, who is a negative WAR player at 3b. I've never said Arenado is the ideal 3B for our team. He's just the best option we have Until Bill is willing to acquire a REAL replacement that can approach his 2021/2022 production, which is the right move that needs to happen.