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Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 10:00 am
by rockondlouie
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 09:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 08:54 am
I. Hererra is obviously the correct #3 hitter given he's the only player in the organization w/30-35 HR power and should be in the prime RBI spot w/WillyC behind him if he's still here.
Burleson could hit 2nd or 5th vs RHP but has to sit vs LHP.
A platoon player without a position, no power, who somehow has built some value with his hit tool. Bloom is smart. BuhByeBurly!
Agreed
I said in post the other day his trade value may never be higher!
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 11:01 am
by riff raff
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 10:00 am
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 09:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 08:54 am
I. Hererra is obviously the correct #3 hitter given he's the only player in the organization w/30-35 HR power and should be in the prime RBI spot w/WillyC behind him if he's still here.
Burleson could hit 2nd or 5th vs RHP but has to sit vs LHP.
A platoon player without a position, no power, who somehow has built some value with his hit tool. Bloom is smart. BuhByeBurly!
Agreed
I said in post the other day his trade value may never be higher!
So you two want to trade away a 294 hitter with an 810 OPS? Not to mention Burly is cheap and is showing year to year improvement.
ok
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 11:19 am
by CorneliusWolfe
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 10:00 am
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 09:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 08:54 am
I. Hererra is obviously the correct #3 hitter given he's the only player in the organization w/30-35 HR power and should be in the prime RBI spot w/WillyC behind him if he's still here.
Burleson could hit 2nd or 5th vs RHP but has to sit vs LHP.
A platoon player without a position, no power, who somehow has built some value with his hit tool. Bloom is smart. BuhByeBurly!
Agreed
I said in post the other day his trade value may never be higher!
So you two want to trade away a 294 hitter with an 810 OPS? Not to mention Burly is cheap and is showing year to year improvement.
ok
Just so Shady will shut the F up about him.
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 11:24 am
by CorneliusWolfe
Shady wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025 18:43 pm
If he continues to improve his slug. It's such an vital spot in the batting order. By all accounts, Wetherholt will be as a fine table setter. Depending on what the Cardinals decide on Contreras, The Cardinals still need another "big bat" at 4 or 5 behind Burly at #3. Maybe even with Burleson, Herrera and Contreras. They were probably hoping that would be Gorman and/or Walker. The jury is still out on that.
He’s a fat and slow 1-tool #7 or #8 on a decent team. Like most catchers.
He sucks, but not as much as you. You have a low baseball IQ. Also…Fk off with your stupid repetitive threads.
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 11:29 am
by rockondlouie
This starting pitching staff is in serious need of help, even more so if S. Gray waives and is dealt!
I'm a big fan of Donny, Burly too.
But they could be our best trade chips to land starting pitching!
JJW is here in 2026 and replaces (upgrades?) Donny's offense.
If WillyC stays (highly likely), then Burly's only slot is as a sometime bat at 1B, DH or in the OF where he's a liability (-3 DRS/-4 OAA).
He also shouldn't be used vs LHP.
If some team needs a solid platoon bat at 1B/DH and is willing to offer a high caliber AA/AAA starting pitcher, then heck yea I'd deal him!
JMO
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 11:40 am
by riff raff
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:19 am
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 10:00 am
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 09:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 08:54 am
I. Hererra is obviously the correct #3 hitter given he's the only player in the organization w/30-35 HR power and should be in the prime RBI spot w/WillyC behind him if he's still here.
Burleson could hit 2nd or 5th vs RHP but has to sit vs LHP.
A platoon player without a position, no power, who somehow has built some value with his hit tool. Bloom is smart. BuhByeBurly!
Agreed
I said in post the other day his trade value may never be higher!
So you two want to trade away a 294 hitter with an 810 OPS? Not to mention Burly is cheap and is showing year to year improvement.
ok
Just so Shady will shut the F up about him.
Looks like Shady was right about ol'Burly though.
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 11:43 am
by riff raff
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:29 am
This starting pitching staff is in serious need of help, even more so if S. Gray waives and is dealt!
I'm a big fan of Donny, Burly too.
But they could be our best trade chips to land starting pitching!
JJW is here in 2026 and replaces (upgrades?) Donny's offense.
If WillyC stays (highly likely), then Burly's only slot is as a sometime bat at 1B, DH or in the OF where he's a liability (-3 DRS/-4 OAA).
He also shouldn't be used vs LHP.
If some team needs a solid platoon bat at 1B/DH and is willing to offer a high caliber AA/AAA starting pitcher, then heck yea I'd deal him!
JMO
You're as dumb as a box of rocks.
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 11:45 am
by Swuhgen
Seasons?
No.
Maybe one more season.
Unless he increases his power and OPS.
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 11:54 am
by CorneliusWolfe
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:40 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:19 am
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 10:00 am
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 09:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 08:54 am
I. Hererra is obviously the correct #3 hitter given he's the only player in the organization w/30-35 HR power and should be in the prime RBI spot w/WillyC behind him if he's still here.
Burleson could hit 2nd or 5th vs RHP but has to sit vs LHP.
A platoon player without a position, no power, who somehow has built some value with his hit tool. Bloom is smart. BuhByeBurly!
Agreed
I said in post the other day his trade value may never be higher!
So you two want to trade away a 294 hitter with an 810 OPS? Not to mention Burly is cheap and is showing year to year improvement.
ok
Just so Shady will shut the F up about him.
Looks like Shady was right about ol'Burly though.
Which year? He’s been talking him up like an MVP for 4 years before he finally turned in an acceptable season, and even that is a low bar as a #3 hitter.
Next year maybe that Melville guy will be right about Gorman?
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 11:59 am
by riff raff
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:54 am
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:40 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:19 am
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 10:00 am
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 09:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 08:54 am
I. Hererra is obviously the correct #3 hitter given he's the only player in the organization w/30-35 HR power and should be in the prime RBI spot w/WillyC behind him if he's still here.
Burleson could hit 2nd or 5th vs RHP but has to sit vs LHP.
A platoon player without a position, no power, who somehow has built some value with his hit tool. Bloom is smart. BuhByeBurly!
Agreed
I said in post the other day his trade value may never be higher!
So you two want to trade away a 294 hitter with an 810 OPS? Not to mention Burly is cheap and is showing year to year improvement.
ok
Just so Shady will shut the F up about him.
Looks like Shady was right about ol'Burly though.
Which year? He’s been talking him up like an MVP for 4 years before he finally turned in an acceptable season, and even that is a low bar as a #3 hitter.
Next year maybe that Melville guy will be right about Gorman?
Burly hitting 294 with an 810 OPS. He would be a nice number 5 hitter with those numbers.
Dooshville is hardly ever right about anything. He believes he is very important though. His narcissism knows no bounds.
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 12:12 pm
by 2ninr
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 10:00 am
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 09:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 08:54 am
I. Hererra is obviously the correct #3 hitter given he's the only player in the organization w/30-35 HR power and should be in the prime RBI spot w/WillyC behind him if he's still here.
Burleson could hit 2nd or 5th vs RHP but has to sit vs LHP.
A platoon player without a position, no power, who somehow has built some value with his hit tool. Bloom is smart. BuhByeBurly!
Agreed
I said in post the other day his trade value may never be higher!
So you two want to trade away a 294 hitter with an 810 OPS? Not to mention Burly is cheap and is showing year to year improvement.
ok
He's a good player on a bad team. If I could get a young pitcher with control, he's gone. That's how we get better.
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 12:16 pm
by riff raff
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 12:12 pm
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 10:00 am
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 09:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 08:54 am
I. Hererra is obviously the correct #3 hitter given he's the only player in the organization w/30-35 HR power and should be in the prime RBI spot w/WillyC behind him if he's still here.
Burleson could hit 2nd or 5th vs RHP but has to sit vs LHP.
A platoon player without a position, no power, who somehow has built some value with his hit tool. Bloom is smart. BuhByeBurly!
Agreed
I said in post the other day his trade value may never be higher!
So you two want to trade away a 294 hitter with an 810 OPS? Not to mention Burly is cheap and is showing year to year improvement.
ok
He's a good player on a bad team. If I could get a young pitcher with control, he's gone. That's how we get better.
Can't argue, give to get. Trading for young pitching is a (bleep) shoot and what team in their right mind would trade away near major league ready pitching?
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 12:18 pm
by 2ninr
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 12:16 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 12:12 pm
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 10:00 am
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 09:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 08:54 am
I. Hererra is obviously the correct #3 hitter given he's the only player in the organization w/30-35 HR power and should be in the prime RBI spot w/WillyC behind him if he's still here.
Burleson could hit 2nd or 5th vs RHP but has to sit vs LHP.
A platoon player without a position, no power, who somehow has built some value with his hit tool. Bloom is smart. BuhByeBurly!
Agreed
I said in post the other day his trade value may never be higher!
So you two want to trade away a 294 hitter with an 810 OPS? Not to mention Burly is cheap and is showing year to year improvement.
ok
He's a good player on a bad team. If I could get a young pitcher with control, he's gone. That's how we get better.
Can't argue, give to get. Dude just keeps getting better though.
If he was showing more power no way I would trade him.
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 12:20 pm
by Shady
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 12:12 pm
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 10:00 am
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 09:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 08:54 am
I. Hererra is obviously the correct #3 hitter given he's the only player in the organization w/30-35 HR power and should be in the prime RBI spot w/WillyC behind him if he's still here.
Burleson could hit 2nd or 5th vs RHP but has to sit vs LHP.
A platoon player without a position, no power, who somehow has built some value with his hit tool. Bloom is smart. BuhByeBurly!
Agreed
I said in post the other day his trade value may never be higher!
So you two want to trade away a 294 hitter with an 810 OPS? Not to mention Burly is cheap and is showing year to year improvement.
ok
He's a good player on a bad team. If I could get a young pitcher with control, he's gone. That's how we get better.
You are neglecting one very substantial consideration. How would the Cardinals replace Burleson's offensive production? ex, Gorman, Walker, etc. Another thing, Burleson is coming into his prime and is very economical. Especially, considering how he continues to produce.
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 12:23 pm
by riff raff
Shady wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 12:20 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 12:12 pm
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 10:00 am
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 09:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 08:54 am
I. Hererra is obviously the correct #3 hitter given he's the only player in the organization w/30-35 HR power and should be in the prime RBI spot w/WillyC behind him if he's still here.
Burleson could hit 2nd or 5th vs RHP but has to sit vs LHP.
A platoon player without a position, no power, who somehow has built some value with his hit tool. Bloom is smart. BuhByeBurly!
Agreed
I said in post the other day his trade value may never be higher!
So you two want to trade away a 294 hitter with an 810 OPS? Not to mention Burly is cheap and is showing year to year improvement.
ok
He's a good player on a bad team. If I could get a young pitcher with control, he's gone. That's how we get better.
You are neglecting one very substantial consideration. How would the Cardinals replace Burleson's offensive production? ex, Gorman, Walker, etc. Another thing, Burleson is coming into his prime and is very economical. Especially, considering how he continues to produce.
Get yourself a JJ Wetherholt doll and get ready
Re: Burleson might be OK as a #3 hitter for the next few seasons
Posted: 24 Sep 2025 12:26 pm
by Shady
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 12:23 pm
Shady wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 12:20 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 12:12 pm
riff raff wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 10:00 am
2ninr wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 09:10 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025 08:54 am
I. Hererra is obviously the correct #3 hitter given he's the only player in the organization w/30-35 HR power and should be in the prime RBI spot w/WillyC behind him if he's still here.
Burleson could hit 2nd or 5th vs RHP but has to sit vs LHP.
A platoon player without a position, no power, who somehow has built some value with his hit tool. Bloom is smart. BuhByeBurly!
Agreed
I said in post the other day his trade value may never be higher!
So you two want to trade away a 294 hitter with an 810 OPS? Not to mention Burly is cheap and is showing year to year improvement.
ok
He's a good player on a bad team. If I could get a young pitcher with control, he's gone. That's how we get better.
You are neglecting one very substantial consideration. How would the Cardinals replace Burleson's offensive production? ex, Gorman, Walker, etc. Another thing, Burleson is coming into his prime and is very economical. Especially, considering how he continues to produce.
Get yourself a JJ Wetherholt doll and get ready
Realistically, you don't actually know how well Wetherholt will produce at the MLB level. Especially, in his first season. Have we ever been disappointed before by high end prospects? You know how Burleson will very likely continue to produce.