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casey1024 wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:23 am I honestly thought this was where we would be........I had no illusions that this team was good enough to do much better than .500. I'm okay with where the rebuild is at. If Goldy and Arenado had not fell off the cliff so, so fast......we could have been in a decent place the past 2 years. Sometimes even the best of plans do not work. I thought when we acquired those 2, we would go deep in the playoffs. But.....when you make those kind of investments....and they don't work out....you land where we are. It's called life....it happens.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:19 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:05 am With 73-78 record, the Cardinals would need an unbelievable finish to reach .500 . The odds of that aren't much better than winning the Powerball .
More laughable might be ending with a winning season of 82-80 , that takes a 9-2 .
More likely MAY (noticed MAY in caps) be a 4-7 finish to end at 77- 85 .

Last year's record in 2024 was 83-79
Two years ago Oli Marmol's team was 71-91
It appears for the last three years the cumulative W-L will be a losing record .
Chaim Bloom has a tough task to turn the franchise around.

As I have noted an exhaustive amount of times, we are 6 seasons from an all time franchise tieing record- consecutive years without WS appearances.

We are at 12 and counting. Record - 1946-1964. That’s the fifties. Then 67-82. That’s the seventies; then 87-2004,that’s the nineties.

Now it’s 2013 till?? There goes the twenties.

Same scenerio.

ramfandan wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:05 am With 73-78 record, the Cardinals would need an unbelievable finish to reach .500 . The odds of that aren't much better than winning the Powerball .
More laughable might be ending with a winning season of 82-80 , that takes a 9-2 .
More likely MAY (noticed MAY in caps) be a 4-7 finish to end at 77- 85 .

Last year's record in 2024 was 83-79
Two years ago Oli Marmol's team was 71-91
It appears for the last three years the cumulative W-L will be a losing record .
Chaim Bloom has a tough task to turn the franchise around.

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 10:20 am

Hoosier59 wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 10:15 am I don’t think we’ll win more than three more games. Bullpen is worn out and our young starters have pitched more innings than they’ve ever pitched. So, not a good combination. Gray gave us a good game, and so did Liberatore, but the tired bullpen couldn’t hold those leads. It’s not going to get better in the coming days.

spot on

ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:12 am The franchise guaranteed a losing season on July 31.

Better get some pitching between now and April 2026.

blackinkbiz wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 10:46 am Hopefully, they go 0-11.

Hopefully, that increases their draft position.

And most hopefully, the poor finish combined with the fact we have fewer answers now due to the poor handling of "runway" distribution than we did at the start of the season, this will convince Bloom that Oli is simply not the man for this job and send him walking in October.

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 10:31 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:05 am With 73-78 record, the Cardinals would need an unbelievable finish to reach .500 . The odds of that aren't much better than winning the Powerball .
More laughable might be ending with a winning season of 82-80 , that takes a 9-2 .
More likely MAY (noticed MAY in caps) be a 4-7 finish to end at 77- 85 .

Last year's record in 2024 was 83-79
Two years ago Oli Marmol's team was 71-91
It appears for the last three years the cumulative W-L will be a losing record .
Chaim Bloom has a tough task to turn the franchise around.

It would be great to see the Cardinals make a successful run at .500. It would send the club into the offseason on a high, and an added air of confidence going into ST. Could someone kidnap Fernandez please?

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 10:31 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:05 am With 73-78 record, the Cardinals would need an unbelievable finish to reach .500 . The odds of that aren't much better than winning the Powerball .
More laughable might be ending with a winning season of 82-80 , that takes a 9-2 .
More likely MAY (noticed MAY in caps) be a 4-7 finish to end at 77- 85 .

Last year's record in 2024 was 83-79
Two years ago Oli Marmol's team was 71-91
It appears for the last three years the cumulative W-L will be a losing record .
Chaim Bloom has a tough task to turn the franchise around.

It would be great to see the Cardinals make a successful run at .500. It would send the club into the offseason on a high, and an added air of confidence going into ST. Could someone kidnap Fernandez please?

craviduce wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 11:07 am I need more Rain and a little win streak to realize my 80-80 prediction. 3 years and running...that's been my prediction.

but since it was confirmed/realized that we can indeed win the Draft Lottery this winter, I'm all for bottom 5 record....we're only 2 1/2 games out of 5th place.

not a lot of games left, so it would be a Little Tank....call it a Stuart.

Stlcardsblues wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 10:57 am

ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:12 am The franchise guaranteed a losing season on July 31.

Better get some pitching between now and April 2026.

Was the July 31 decision really a bad one? What does the team gain winning 83 games and missing the playoffs then losing the pitchers to free agency for little to nothing?

Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 14:38 pm

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 10:31 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:05 am With 73-78 record, the Cardinals would need an unbelievable finish to reach .500 . The odds of that aren't much better than winning the Powerball .
More laughable might be ending with a winning season of 82-80 , that takes a 9-2 .
More likely MAY (noticed MAY in caps) be a 4-7 finish to end at 77- 85 .

Last year's record in 2024 was 83-79
Two years ago Oli Marmol's team was 71-91
It appears for the last three years the cumulative W-L will be a losing record .
Chaim Bloom has a tough task to turn the franchise around.

It would be great to see the Cardinals make a successful run at .500. It would send the club into the offseason on a high, and an added air of confidence going into ST. Could someone kidnap Fernandez please?

They played above their station in May, going 19-8. It left them statistically tied for the 2nd WC spot. And they went from 8 above .500 on 5/31 to 5 below it as of last night.

They went 15-11 last September, posting their best winning % of the season, by month, to finish 4 games above .500. And they're going to have a worse record in 2025.

I don't see the "high" at work in any of this.

butsir01 wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 14:29 pm

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 10:31 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:05 am With 73-78 record, the Cardinals would need an unbelievable finish to reach .500 . The odds of that aren't much better than winning the Powerball .
More laughable might be ending with a winning season of 82-80 , that takes a 9-2 .
More likely MAY (noticed MAY in caps) be a 4-7 finish to end at 77- 85 .

Last year's record in 2024 was 83-79
Two years ago Oli Marmol's team was 71-91
It appears for the last three years the cumulative W-L will be a losing record .
Chaim Bloom has a tough task to turn the franchise around.

It would be great to see the Cardinals make a successful run at .500. It would send the club into the offseason on a high, and an added air of confidence going into ST. Could someone kidnap Fernandez please?

Flint Rhem grins.