Takes 8-3 to avoid losing season

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ramfandan
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Takes 8-3 to avoid losing season

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With 73-78 record, the Cardinals would need an unbelievable finish to reach .500 . The odds of that aren't much better than winning the Powerball .
More laughable might be ending with a winning season of 82-80 , that takes a 9-2 .
More likely MAY (noticed MAY in caps) be a 4-7 finish to end at 77- 85 .

Last year's record in 2024 was 83-79
Two years ago Oli Marmol's team was 71-91
It appears for the last three years the cumulative W-L will be a losing record .
Chaim Bloom has a tough task to turn the franchise around.
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Re: Takes 8-3 to avoid losing season

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The franchise guaranteed a losing season on July 31.

Better get some pitching between now and April 2026.
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ramfandan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:05 am With 73-78 record, the Cardinals would need an unbelievable finish to reach .500 . The odds of that aren't much better than winning the Powerball .
More laughable might be ending with a winning season of 82-80 , that takes a 9-2 .
More likely MAY (noticed MAY in caps) be a 4-7 finish to end at 77- 85 .

Last year's record in 2024 was 83-79
Two years ago Oli Marmol's team was 71-91
It appears for the last three years the cumulative W-L will be a losing record .
Chaim Bloom has a tough task to turn the franchise around.
As I have noted an exhaustive amount of times, we are 6 seasons from an all time franchise tieing record- consecutive years without WS appearances.

We are at 12 and counting. Record - 1946-1964. That’s the fifties. Then 67-82. That’s the seventies; then 87-2004,that’s the nineties.

Now it’s 2013 till?? There goes the twenties.

Same scenerio.
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Re: Takes 8-3 to avoid losing season

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I honestly thought this was where we would be........I had no illusions that this team was good enough to do much better than .500. I'm okay with where the rebuild is at. If Goldy and Arenado had not fell off the cliff so, so fast......we could have been in a decent place the past 2 years. Sometimes even the best of plans do not work. I thought when we acquired those 2, we would go deep in the playoffs. But.....when you make those kind of investments....and they don't work out....you land where we are. It's called life....it happens.
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casey1024 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:23 am I honestly thought this was where we would be........I had no illusions that this team was good enough to do much better than .500. I'm okay with where the rebuild is at. If Goldy and Arenado had not fell off the cliff so, so fast......we could have been in a decent place the past 2 years. Sometimes even the best of plans do not work. I thought when we acquired those 2, we would go deep in the playoffs. But.....when you make those kind of investments....and they don't work out....you land where we are. It's called life....it happens.
Good point. When you aquire two arguable HoF corners, still in prime, you’d expect more.
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77 win prediction is looking pretty good.
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alw80 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:33 am 77 win prediction is looking pretty good.
My 81 I think is sunk.
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Need to go 5-6 to match my 78 win prediction. Could happen.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:45 am Need to go 5-6 to match my 78 win prediction. Could happen.
Yea you’re in decent shape.
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I gave a High Side (if they kept everyone and made no trades) and a low side if they did make deals.

86 - 76



71 - 91


Unfortunately the low side is going to come the closest. :x
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ramfandan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:05 am With 73-78 record, the Cardinals would need an unbelievable finish to reach .500 . The odds of that aren't much better than winning the Powerball .
More laughable might be ending with a winning season of 82-80 , that takes a 9-2 .
More likely MAY (noticed MAY in caps) be a 4-7 finish to end at 77- 85 .

Last year's record in 2024 was 83-79
Two years ago Oli Marmol's team was 71-91
It appears for the last three years the cumulative W-L will be a losing record .
Chaim Bloom has a tough task to turn the franchise around.
My 76-86 prediction from early in the season is looking pretty close. The Cards may beat 76-86 by a little bit. The likelihood of reaching .500 is looking pretty bleak. We'll get 'em next year, or the next year, or the following year. :)
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As much as it pains me to say it, a 3-8 finish would be more important. Currently Tankathon has them with the 8th pick. The Marlins, A's and O's are immediately in front of them, and they all only have two more losses than the Cards. The Cardinals remaining schedule features the Reds, Brewers, Giants and Cubs. All of them are trying to win. It's possible they can finish with more losses than the three teams "ahead" of them that I listed. That would put them in the top five and seriously increase their odds in the lottery.
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pitchingandefense wrote: 16 Sep 2025 10:11 am As much as it pains me to say it, a 3-8 finish would be more important. Currently Tankathon has them with the 8th pick. The Marlins, A's and O's are immediately in front of them, and they all only have two more losses than the Cards. The Cardinals remaining schedule features the Reds, Brewers, Giants and Cubs. All of them are trying to win. It's possible they can finish with more losses than the three teams "ahead" of them that I listed. That would put them in the top five and seriously increase their odds in the lottery.
Unfortunately, good point..... sigh
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:36 am
alw80 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:33 am 77 win prediction is looking pretty good.
My 81 I think is sunk.
I took 81 too. We should've known better. :oops:
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I don’t think we’ll win more than three more games. Bullpen is worn out and our young starters have pitched more innings than they’ve ever pitched. So, not a good combination. Gray gave us a good game, and so did Liberatore, but the tired bullpen couldn’t hold those leads. It’s not going to get better in the coming days.
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Hoosier59 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 10:15 am I don’t think we’ll win more than three more games. Bullpen is worn out and our young starters have pitched more innings than they’ve ever pitched. So, not a good combination. Gray gave us a good game, and so did Liberatore, but the tired bullpen couldn’t hold those leads. It’s not going to get better in the coming days.
spot on
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