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ecleme22 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.

So, this implies that you’re calling B S on the reporting that they intend to take a step backwards in 2026?

They have no pitching. Unless they go sign Dylan Cease, I don’t know what path to being competitive exists, and they’ve (reporters) said payroll is headed south.

ecleme22 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.

Not without at least 4 decent starting pitchers. We shall see. There are possibilities, but no guarantees, and it is doubtful ownership ponies up for a high level starter who is MLB ready. So LIbby has to step up, Gray has to stop imploding, McG has to hold his own as a back end of rotation piece, and some kids from the minors need to produce. A lot of ifs.....

An Old Friend wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 09:38 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.

So, this implies that you’re calling B S on the reporting that they intend to take a step backwards in 2026?

They have no pitching. Unless they go sign Dylan Cease, I don’t know what path to being competitive exists, and they’ve (reporters) said payroll is headed south.

They will be active in trades and FA.

I still think they will be shrewd in spending, but I seriously doubt they’re going to go with Pallante as 4th starter and the 5th starter just bullpen games…

3dender wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 07:46 am If Bloom is as good as his rep this team should be competitive by 2027. There's a lot of work to be done but this team has many fungible pieces that he can mix and match with acquisitions however works best.

his rep is ... awful, OK, good, great - just depends who you talk to
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 07:54 am Several notes.

Been 12 years since last WS appearance. The franchise record is 18. So we reach that level.

WS wins are worse. Last time 2011. Record 18 years. We will set new franchise record in four years without a WS win. Will we do it.

sorry dog - we have gone longer than 18 years between WS victories - I think it is more like 24 years

3dender wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 07:46 am If Bloom is as good as his rep this team should be competitive by 2027. There's a lot of work to be done but this team has many fungible pieces that he can mix and match with acquisitions however works best.

They gave him a 5 year deal to allow for a longer runway to win.

ecleme22 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 09:42 am

An Old Friend wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 09:38 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.

So, this implies that you’re calling B S on the reporting that they intend to take a step backwards in 2026?

They have no pitching. Unless they go sign Dylan Cease, I don’t know what path to being competitive exists, and they’ve (reporters) said payroll is headed south.

They will be active in trades and FA.

I still think they will be shrewd in spending, but I seriously doubt they’re going to go with Pallante as 4th starter and the 5th starter just bullpen games…

They’ll be active partially because they have no other choice. They don’t have 5/6 viable starters for 2026.

But “competitive”? They would need some dynamic moves, starting with a guy like Cease.

An Old Friend wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 09:49 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 09:42 am

An Old Friend wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 09:38 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.

So, this implies that you’re calling B S on the reporting that they intend to take a step backwards in 2026?

They have no pitching. Unless they go sign Dylan Cease, I don’t know what path to being competitive exists, and they’ve (reporters) said payroll is headed south.

They will be active in trades and FA.

I still think they will be shrewd in spending, but I seriously doubt they’re going to go with Pallante as 4th starter and the 5th starter just bullpen games…

They’ll be active partially because they have no other choice. They don’t have 5/6 viable starters for 2026.

But “competitive”? They would need some dynamic moves, starting with a guy like Cease.

They won’t sign Cease. It would be wise to trade off some some of their major leaguers for starters a year or two away. Something similar to the Priester trade would be even better, but trades like that are not common.

An Old Friend wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 09:49 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 09:42 am

An Old Friend wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 09:38 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 07:51 am They’ll be competitive next year.

So, this implies that you’re calling B S on the reporting that they intend to take a step backwards in 2026?

They have no pitching. Unless they go sign Dylan Cease, I don’t know what path to being competitive exists, and they’ve (reporters) said payroll is headed south.

They will be active in trades and FA.

I still think they will be shrewd in spending, but I seriously doubt they’re going to go with Pallante as 4th starter and the 5th starter just bullpen games…

They’ll be active partially because they have no other choice. They don’t have 5/6 viable starters for 2026.

But “competitive”? They would need some dynamic moves, starting with a guy like Cease.

I don't think it's Cease or bust, LOL.

This is a team 3 games under .500 with horrible starting pitching. Just replacing Miko and Pallante will make a huge difference.

dugoutrex wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 09:44 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 07:54 am Several notes.

Been 12 years since last WS appearance. The franchise record is 18. So we reach that level.

WS wins are worse. Last time 2011. Record 18 years. We will set new franchise record in four years without a WS win. Will we do it.

sorry dog - we have gone longer than 18 years between WS victories - I think it is more like 24 years

1982 to 2006, 24 of my 57 years of following the team.