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ecleme22 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 10:12 am

Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 10:08 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:26 am

Melville wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:20 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:14 am Should've been DFA'd long ago.

He's been one of the worse starters in MLB since 2023:

2023 - Present

92 GS
5.07 ERA
1.31 WHiP
6.1 SO9

Thanks to another idiotic Mo extension he's STOLEN money the last 3 years and is one of the main reasons the team has struggled.

Wainwright was far worse.
In fact, his final season was among the worst in MLB history.
His contract played.
Mikolas will as well.
And it is just as foolish to put him on the mound as it was with Wainwright.

Nope, bad comp Mel

In his final season Waino was:

1 - 41 years old-----Mikolas is 36 years old

2 - In Waino's final three seasons (2021-2023: 85 GS/4.18 ERA that was his age 39-41 seasons and still almost a full run lower ERA than age 34-36 year old Mikolas)

3 - Waino earned that final season given he's a future Cardinals Hall of Famer, borderline Hall of Famer while Mikolas should've never gotten his first extension let alone a second only because Mo jumped the gun not once but twice giving them to him.

bull[shirt].

Wainwright was crucified in this forum for his performance (or lack thereof) each time he was destroyed on the mound. And, the fact he'd been inked to a $17MM contract rubbed salt into the 'every 5th day' wounds he'd far too often create.

Yes, victory #200 was a struggling gem, but a perfect case of where the ends did not justify the season-long means of getting there.

Waino’s opportunity for 200th win was only possible because the rest of the season was sunk.

If the season was a great one, Waino would’ve been put in the bullpen or put on the IL.

Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 10:08 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:26 am

Melville wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:20 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:14 am Should've been DFA'd long ago.

He's been one of the worse starters in MLB since 2023:

2023 - Present

92 GS
5.07 ERA
1.31 WHiP
6.1 SO9

Thanks to another idiotic Mo extension he's STOLEN money the last 3 years and is one of the main reasons the team has struggled.

Wainwright was far worse.
In fact, his final season was among the worst in MLB history.
His contract played.
Mikolas will as well.
And it is just as foolish to put him on the mound as it was with Wainwright.

Nope, bad comp Mel

In his final season Waino was:

1 - 41 years old-----Mikolas is 36 years old

2 - In Waino's final three seasons (2021-2023: 85 GS/4.18 ERA that was his age 39-41 seasons and still almost a full run lower ERA than age 34-36 year old Mikolas)

3 - Waino earned that final season given he's a future Cardinals Hall of Famer, borderline Hall of Famer while Mikolas should've never gotten his first extension let alone a second only because Mo jumped the gun not once but twice giving them to him.

bull[shirt].

Wainwright was crucified in this forum for his performance (or lack thereof) each time he was destroyed on the mound. And, the fact he'd been inked to a $17MM contract rubbed salt into the 'every 5th day' wounds he'd far too often create.

Yes, victory #200 was a struggling gem, but a perfect case of where the ends did not justify the season-long means of getting there.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:26 am

Melville wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:20 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:14 am Should've been DFA'd long ago.

He's been one of the worse starters in MLB since 2023:

2023 - Present

92 GS
5.07 ERA
1.31 WHiP
6.1 SO9

Thanks to another idiotic Mo extension he's STOLEN money the last 3 years and is one of the main reasons the team has struggled.

Wainwright was far worse.
In fact, his final season was among the worst in MLB history.
His contract played.
Mikolas will as well.
And it is just as foolish to put him on the mound as it was with Wainwright.

Nope, bad comp Mel

In his final season Waino was:

1 - 41 years old-----Mikolas is 36 years old

2 - In Waino's final three seasons (2021-2023: 85 GS/4.18 ERA that was his age 39-41 seasons and still almost a full run lower ERA than age 34-36 year old Mikolas)

3 - Waino earned that final season given he's a future Cardinals Hall of Famer, borderline Hall of Famer while Mikolas should've never gotten his first extension let alone a second only because Mo jumped the gun not once but twice giving them to him.

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 11:44 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:26 am

Melville wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:20 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:14 am Should've been DFA'd long ago.

He's been one of the worse starters in MLB since 2023:

2023 - Present

92 GS
5.07 ERA
1.31 WHiP
6.1 SO9

Thanks to another idiotic Mo extension he's STOLEN money the last 3 years and is one of the main reasons the team has struggled.

Wainwright was far worse.
In fact, his final season was among the worst in MLB history.
His contract played.
Mikolas will as well.
And it is just as foolish to put him on the mound as it was with Wainwright.

Nope, bad comp Mel

In his final season Waino was:

1 - 41 years old-----Mikolas is 36 years old

2 - In Waino's final three seasons (2021-2023: 85 GS/4.18 ERA that was his age 39-41 seasons and still almost a full run lower ERA than age 34-36 year old Mikolas)

3 - Waino earned that final season given he's a future Cardinals Hall of Famer, borderline Hall of Famer while Mikolas should've never gotten his first extension let alone a second only because Mo jumped the gun not once but twice giving them to him.

Rock, be careful. You’re really spoiling Melville‘s toxic narrative.