rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:14 am
Should've been DFA'd long ago.
He's been one of the worse starters in MLB since 2023:
2023 - Present
92 GS
5.07 ERA
1.31 WHiP
6.1 SO9
Thanks to another idiotic Mo extension he's STOLEN money the last 3 years and is one of the main reasons the team has struggled.
Wainwright was far worse.
In fact, his final season was among the worst in MLB history.
His contract played.
Mikolas will as well.
And it is just as foolish to put him on the mound as it was with Wainwright.
Nope, bad comp Mel
In his final season Waino was:
1 - 41 years old-----Mikolas is 36 years old
2 - In Waino's final three seasons (2021-2023: 85 GS/4.18 ERA that was his age 39-41 seasons and still almost a full run lower ERA than age 34-36 year old Mikolas)
3 - Waino earned that final season given he's a future Cardinals Hall of Famer, borderline Hall of Famer while Mikolas should've never gotten his first extension let alone a second only because Mo jumped the gun not once but twice giving them to him.
bull[shirt].
Wainwright was crucified in this forum for his performance (or lack thereof) each time he was destroyed on the mound. And, the fact he'd been inked to a $17MM contract rubbed salt into the 'every 5th day' wounds he'd far too often create.
Yes, victory #200 was a struggling gem, but a perfect case of where the ends did not justify the season-long means of getting there.
Waino’s opportunity for 200th win was only possible because the rest of the season was sunk.
If the season was a great one, Waino would’ve been put in the bullpen or put on the IL.
His legacy as an all-time Cardinal great was secured prior to that season. Chasing after #200 wasn't going to change that. I'm sympathetic to the drive to pursue #200 in light of (when stopping to guesstimate) what career injuries + Covid likely cost in wins (30 - 45). However...
I don't feel any of that excused letting an enfeebled and obviously injured pitcher engage on a Don Quixote-like campaign to partially right past 'wrongs', whether we were going to win 71 or 91 games.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:14 am
Should've been DFA'd long ago.
He's been one of the worse starters in MLB since 2023:
2023 - Present
92 GS
5.07 ERA
1.31 WHiP
6.1 SO9
Thanks to another idiotic Mo extension he's STOLEN money the last 3 years and is one of the main reasons the team has struggled.
Wainwright was far worse.
In fact, his final season was among the worst in MLB history.
His contract played.
Mikolas will as well.
And it is just as foolish to put him on the mound as it was with Wainwright.
Nope, bad comp Mel
In his final season Waino was:
1 - 41 years old-----Mikolas is 36 years old
2 - In Waino's final three seasons (2021-2023: 85 GS/4.18 ERA that was his age 39-41 seasons and still almost a full run lower ERA than age 34-36 year old Mikolas)
3 - Waino earned that final season given he's a future Cardinals Hall of Famer, borderline Hall of Famer while Mikolas should've never gotten his first extension let alone a second only because Mo jumped the gun not once but twice giving them to him.
bull[shirt].
Wainwright was crucified in this forum for his performance (or lack thereof) each time he was destroyed on the mound. And, the fact he'd been inked to a $17MM contract rubbed salt into the 'every 5th day' wounds he'd far too often create.
Yes, victory #200 was a struggling gem, but a perfect case of where the ends did not justify the season-long means of getting there.
Exactly.
Rock proved my point.
Wainwright had a 7.40 ERA and 1.90 WHIP that season - and was protected the entire season with his contract guaranteeing his starts.
Perhaps the worst season of any pitcher in MLB history with over 20 starts.
TOXIC CULTURE.
Mikolas is playing for the same reason as Wainwright did - except he is not quite as bad.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:14 am
Should've been DFA'd long ago.
He's been one of the worse starters in MLB since 2023:
2023 - Present
92 GS
5.07 ERA
1.31 WHiP
6.1 SO9
Thanks to another idiotic Mo extension he's STOLEN money the last 3 years and is one of the main reasons the team has struggled.
Wainwright was far worse.
In fact, his final season was among the worst in MLB history.
His contract played.
Mikolas will as well.
And it is just as foolish to put him on the mound as it was with Wainwright.
Nope, bad comp Mel
In his final season Waino was:
1 - 41 years old-----Mikolas is 36 years old
2 - In Waino's final three seasons (2021-2023: 85 GS/4.18 ERA that was his age 39-41 seasons and still almost a full run lower ERA than age 34-36 year old Mikolas)
3 - Waino earned that final season given he's a future Cardinals Hall of Famer, borderline Hall of Famer while Mikolas should've never gotten his first extension let alone a second only because Mo jumped the gun not once but twice giving them to him.
Rock, be careful. You’re really spoiling Melville‘s toxic narrative.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 09:14 am
Should've been DFA'd long ago.
He's been one of the worse starters in MLB since 2023:
2023 - Present
92 GS
5.07 ERA
1.31 WHiP
6.1 SO9
Thanks to another idiotic Mo extension he's STOLEN money the last 3 years and is one of the main reasons the team has struggled.
Wainwright was far worse.
In fact, his final season was among the worst in MLB history.
His contract played.
Mikolas will as well.
And it is just as foolish to put him on the mound as it was with Wainwright.
Nope, bad comp Mel
In his final season Waino was:
1 - 41 years old-----Mikolas is 36 years old
2 - In Waino's final three seasons (2021-2023: 85 GS/4.18 ERA that was his age 39-41 seasons and still almost a full run lower ERA than age 34-36 year old Mikolas)
3 - Waino earned that final season given he's a future Cardinals Hall of Famer, borderline Hall of Famer while Mikolas should've never gotten his first extension let alone a second only because Mo jumped the gun not once but twice giving them to him.
Rock, be careful. You’re really spoiling Melville‘s toxic narrative.
