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Re: Who would you like to see as a Blues Hall of Famer?

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seattleblue wrote: 18 Aug 2025 18:14 pm Adam Oates is completely unacceptable except for the Blues Hall of Shame. What a loser. Quit on the team. Quit on the Blues. Quitter. Loser, not a man. Signed his name on the dotted line repeatedly then held out and held out. No sack to him. No ownership of things he did as a man. Never got his name on the Cup, importantly. I rooted for Lou Lamoreillo to get three Cups instead of Oates getting one. Oates is the poster child for "me instead of the team." I look down on him. It is honestly great that his name is not on the Cup.
I get this view, the ONLY reason he would be considered is he made Brett Hull better. I'd love to see Shanahan inducted.
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TAFKAP wrote: 17 Aug 2025 17:44 pm It's funny, I've never seen the "Criteria" for nomination. Guess I just didn't scroll far enough.

In order to be eligible for the Blues Hall of Fame as a player, the player must have ONE or more of the following:


At least three (3) seasons or 200 games played in the Blue Note (includes regular season and playoffs).


Officially retired from the NHL.


Demonstrated exceptional attributes in the areas of playing ability, sportsmanship, character and contributions to the St. Louis Blues.


Won the Stanley Cup or a major NHL award during their tenure with the St. Louis Blues.


To be eligible as a non-player, an individual:
Must demonstrate or have demonstrated exceptional attributes in coaching, managing, executive ability, or strong ability in another significant off-ice role, sportsmanship, character and contributions to the St. Louis Blues.
May be active or inactive at the time of his/her nomination.
There will be exceptions possible for special people or significant events in Blues history.


To me, the obvious is Kelly Chase. This needs to happen this year with his health. What about?

Brendan Shanahan
Doug Gilmour
Adam Oates

Shanahan and Gilmour are absolute for me. LOVED by fans, tough as hell, and Hall of Famers. Both left under clouds. (I know Gilmour did nothing, it was bull[shirt]) Both should be in regardless, especially now that Shanahan is no longer President of the Leafs.

Oates I'm kinda meh on because of how it ended. If Oates gets in Shanahan and Gilmour should be locks.

Who am I forgetting? I know it's a lot.
From the 60/70 era Frank St.Marseille
From the 80s era Doug Gilmour
From the 90s era Shanny
From the 2000 era Jackman
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Phil McCrakin wrote: 18 Aug 2025 20:32 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 17 Aug 2025 17:44 pm It's funny, I've never seen the "Criteria" for nomination. Guess I just didn't scroll far enough.

In order to be eligible for the Blues Hall of Fame as a player, the player must have ONE or more of the following:


At least three (3) seasons or 200 games played in the Blue Note (includes regular season and playoffs).


Officially retired from the NHL.


Demonstrated exceptional attributes in the areas of playing ability, sportsmanship, character and contributions to the St. Louis Blues.


Won the Stanley Cup or a major NHL award during their tenure with the St. Louis Blues.


To be eligible as a non-player, an individual:
Must demonstrate or have demonstrated exceptional attributes in coaching, managing, executive ability, or strong ability in another significant off-ice role, sportsmanship, character and contributions to the St. Louis Blues.
May be active or inactive at the time of his/her nomination.
There will be exceptions possible for special people or significant events in Blues history.


To me, the obvious is Kelly Chase. This needs to happen this year with his health. What about?

Brendan Shanahan
Doug Gilmour
Adam Oates

Shanahan and Gilmour are absolute for me. LOVED by fans, tough as hell, and Hall of Famers. Both left under clouds. (I know Gilmour did nothing, it was bull[shirt]) Both should be in regardless, especially now that Shanahan is no longer President of the Leafs.

Oates I'm kinda meh on because of how it ended. If Oates gets in Shanahan and Gilmour should be locks.

Who am I forgetting? I know it's a lot.
From the 60/70 era Frank St.Marseille
From the 80s era Doug Gilmour
From the 90s era Shanny
From the 2000 era Jackman
I'm here for it, from 2010's Backes, once they retire there will be a bunch from the '19 team. DP57, ROR, Petro, Binner, CP55, Chief, Army. I hope Steen takes forever to get in because he's so successful in Blues Management, they want to wait until he retires.
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Sorry, but next to Bobby Plager, I don’t think ANYONE has been a better representative of the BLUES, their fans, and the St. Louis community than Kelly Chase. Backes, Jackman, Perron….no one should get into the Hall before Kelly Chase.
He, like Bobby Plager truly bleed BLUE.
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Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:10 pm Sorry, but next to Bobby Plager, I don’t think ANYONE has been a better representative of the BLUES, their fans, and the St. Louis community than Kelly Chase. Backes, Jackman, Perron….no one should get into the Hall before Kelly Chase.
He, like Bobby Plager truly bleed BLUE.
I agree fully, it needs to happen THIS YEAR in case his health gets worse. I want to see the video of him being told he's in.
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Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:10 pm Sorry, but next to Bobby Plager, I don’t think ANYONE has been a better representative of the BLUES, their fans, and the St. Louis community than Kelly Chase. Backes, Jackman, Perron….no one should get into the Hall before Kelly Chase.
He, like Bobby Plager truly bleed BLUE.
A HOFer needs to do more for me than fight for a job every night and be passionate.

Perron bled Blue too. The way Armstrong handled business hurt him a lot…because he wanted to remain a Blue so badly. Perron dwarfs Chase in every category including GP and sacrificed his body a ton to help win a championship.
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TAFKAP wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:15 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:10 pm Sorry, but next to Bobby Plager, I don’t think ANYONE has been a better representative of the BLUES, their fans, and the St. Louis community than Kelly Chase. Backes, Jackman, Perron….no one should get into the Hall before Kelly Chase.
He, like Bobby Plager truly bleed BLUE.
I agree fully, it needs to happen THIS YEAR in case his health gets worse. I want to see the video of him being told he's in.
Feel for him for everything he’s been through…just awful, but that’s not a valid reason for it.
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theograce wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:17 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:10 pm Sorry, but next to Bobby Plager, I don’t think ANYONE has been a better representative of the BLUES, their fans, and the St. Louis community than Kelly Chase. Backes, Jackman, Perron….no one should get into the Hall before Kelly Chase.
He, like Bobby Plager truly bleed BLUE.
A HOFer needs to do more for me than fight for a job every night and be passionate.

Perron bled Blue too. The way Armstrong handled business hurt him a lot…because he wanted to remain a Blue so badly. Perron dwarfs Chase in every category including GP and sacrificed his body a ton to help win a championship.
While I strongly support that Chaser deserves to be inducted (and sooner rather than later), I whole-heartedly second your (e)motion on DP57. NO Blues has ever personified Bleeding Blue more than him, other than the Plagers.
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theograce wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:17 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:10 pm Sorry, but next to Bobby Plager, I don’t think ANYONE has been a better representative of the BLUES, their fans, and the St. Louis community than Kelly Chase. Backes, Jackman, Perron….no one should get into the Hall before Kelly Chase.
He, like Bobby Plager truly bleed BLUE.
A HOFer needs to do more for me than fight for a job every night and be passionate.

Perron bled Blue too. The way Armstrong handled business hurt him a lot…because he wanted to remain a Blue so badly. Perron dwarfs Chase in every category including GP and sacrificed his body a ton to help win a championship.
You should show up to the arena tomorrow and ask if you can tear down Bob Plagers jersey from the rafters….everything he has done to represent the Blues on and off the ice should be ignored if the stats aren’t there to back it up while playing In your world.
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Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Aug 2025 22:27 pm
theograce wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:17 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:10 pm Sorry, but next to Bobby Plager, I don’t think ANYONE has been a better representative of the BLUES, their fans, and the St. Louis community than Kelly Chase. Backes, Jackman, Perron….no one should get into the Hall before Kelly Chase.
He, like Bobby Plager truly bleed BLUE.
A HOFer needs to do more for me than fight for a job every night and be passionate.

Perron bled Blue too. The way Armstrong handled business hurt him a lot…because he wanted to remain a Blue so badly. Perron dwarfs Chase in every category including GP and sacrificed his body a ton to help win a championship.
You should show up to the arena tomorrow and ask if you can tear down Bob Plagers jersey from the rafters….everything he has done to represent the Blues on and off the ice should be ignored if the stats aren’t there to back it up while playing In your world.
What does that have to do with Chase? Ignoring stats because someone is a good community guy? Lots of ways to honor someone and the Blues have honored him and will continue to.

Create a separate category for guys who contribute off the ice. They do in the league. And the whole rush a decision based on emotion just doesn’t fly for me either. Chase was playing 6 minutes a game and healthy scratched lots of the time. I’d want a separate category.
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theograce wrote: 18 Aug 2025 22:43 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Aug 2025 22:27 pm
theograce wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:17 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:10 pm Sorry, but next to Bobby Plager, I don’t think ANYONE has been a better representative of the BLUES, their fans, and the St. Louis community than Kelly Chase. Backes, Jackman, Perron….no one should get into the Hall before Kelly Chase.
He, like Bobby Plager truly bleed BLUE.
A HOFer needs to do more for me than fight for a job every night and be passionate.

Perron bled Blue too. The way Armstrong handled business hurt him a lot…because he wanted to remain a Blue so badly. Perron dwarfs Chase in every category including GP and sacrificed his body a ton to help win a championship.
You should show up to the arena tomorrow and ask if you can tear down Bob Plagers jersey from the rafters….everything he has done to represent the Blues on and off the ice should be ignored if the stats aren’t there to back it up while playing In your world.
What does that have to do with Chase? Ignoring stats because someone is a good community guy? Lots of ways to honor someone and the Blues have honored him and will continue to.

Create a separate category for guys who contribute off the ice. They do in the league. And the whole rush a decision based on emotion just doesn’t fly for me either. Chase was playing 6 minutes a game and healthy scratched lots of the time. I’d want a separate category.
Plager was an average defenseman……but he bled blue for 50 years. It’s the BLUES HOF. It’s not the NHL HOF.
Who represents the franchise? No categories needed. You are either in or you’re not IMO.
The Cardinals watered down HOF has become a joke. They want to put people in for just moments in a big game. You can’t put 4-6 people in every year and not eventually have it become watered down and not as special.

(And I don’t fault Army for not resigning DP57 at all. The team had 9 20 goal scorers at the time of the trade. Their defense was absolutely atrocious for most of the season until the final 20 games. Defense is where the money needed to be spent.)
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Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Aug 2025 23:00 pm The Cardinals watered down HOF has become a joke.
Well … see … you have your opinion on things.

Mine is that Chase didn’t do enough to be honored this way. The franchise has honored him in many ways and will continue to do so
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theograce wrote: 17 Aug 2025 17:47 pm Gilmour? Why?

Dude barely played here and was in a massive scandal. And nobody knows truly what happened

Never happens
same for Shanahan for me
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Just because you CAN add someone to the HOF, doesn't always mean you should. Who is really left that truly deserves it?
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theograce wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:19 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:15 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Aug 2025 21:10 pm Sorry, but next to Bobby Plager, I don’t think ANYONE has been a better representative of the BLUES, their fans, and the St. Louis community than Kelly Chase. Backes, Jackman, Perron….no one should get into the Hall before Kelly Chase.
He, like Bobby Plager truly bleed BLUE.
I agree fully, it needs to happen THIS YEAR in case his health gets worse. I want to see the video of him being told he's in.
Feel for him for everything he’s been through…just awful, but that’s not a valid reason for it.
I get it, it's hard for such a huge fan of a team like yourself, to understand a player's impact from 1807 miles away. In Calgary, where you definitely live.

Kelly Chase St. Louis Blues 1989-1994,1997-2000.

In 1994, Chase, along with Anthony Sansone Jr., founded and coached the Gateway Locomotives special hockey team. On March 30, 2017, the team was re-named as St. Louis Blues Special Hockey.

1997-98 King Clancy Trophy winner for founding The Gateway Locomotives.

2000-2018 Blues Color Commentator winner of the 2008 Jack Buck Award for dedication to the team.

So yeah, numbers maybe not. Fan favorite and gave the organ-I-zation over 35 years of his life? Bet your (donkey) it's a valid reason.
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As far as newer Blues, I'd go with Steen number 1. Then Backes and Perron. Steen for the longevity here, taking a role demotion and still performing to win the cup, and of course he's still with the organization so that's a plus too. Backes was a good captain and won a lot of games here, even if he never got over the hump in the playoffs. I might be biased with the DP57 pick, but the guy showed dedication to the Blues by repeatedly signing here even after they kept trading him away. Of course, he was also an integral part of that cup team so I think he should get the nod.
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